All the Ways Aliens: Colonial Marines Breaks the ‘Aliens’ Story

Storytime is a recurring series in which we analyze the storytelling found in video games by looking at the elements that form those stories, the messages they deliver, and the people who create them.


THIS IS YOUR SUPER-CRAZY-MONDO SPOILER WARNING! Everything, from the endings of Aliens: Colonial Marines to the endings of Aliens and Alien 3 and probably other stuff is spoiled in here!


I finally finished Aliens: Colonial Marines, after reading much about the game (like Ben Richardson’s Aliens: Colonial Marines review). Turns out, that twist I was hearing about — it was totally obvious. And the ending that everyone hates? It really is terrible. And that “true sequel” story Randy Pitchford was touting for a year? Yeah, it breaks the movie continuity hard.

If we take Aliens: Colonial Marines to be a true sequel to the 1986 James Cameron film Aliens, as Gearbox President Randy Pitchford has repeated a number of times, then it’s worth analyzing how Colonial Marines alters the existing Alien canonical timeline. And as it turns out, Colonial Marines twists things up, uh… kind of a lot.

Read on to see the context of Colonial Marines as we expose the many new plot holes dug in the already shaky Alien franchise. You can also skip all this story discussion if you’re a big fan of Aliens and aware of all the plot points from the franchise and Colonial Marines, and go straight to our Big List of Plot Holes.

Previously, on Aliens

Colonial Marines kicks off 17 weeks after the end of Aliens, so to fully understand how it enters the story, we’ll need to go back to the end of James Cameron’s movie and the beginning of Alien 3. As it turns out, Colonial Marines is actually a sequel to both films in terms of timeline continuity, because it occurs well after their events. I’m going to assume you’re familiar with the events of the films.

The end of Aliens

The final moments of Aliens take place aboard the Sulaco and find Ripley tucking Newt into a hypersleep chamber for the trip back to Gateway station, in orbit around Earth. Hicks, badly wounded by an acid splash during the escape from Hadley’s Hope, has been carried to cryo on a stretcher. When the alien queen attacks in Sulaco landing bay, it tears the android Bishop in half before Ripley blows it out the airlock.

This is where the continuity starts to break down. Ripley goes into hypersleep with Newt, and it’s generally accepted that the time between Aliens and Alien 3 is rather short — according to the Alien Anthology Wiki, the end of Aliens is July 28, while the beginning of Alien 3 is Aug. 8.

The premise of Alien 3 states that not only did the alien queen stow away on the dropship on its way back to the Sulaco at the end of Aliens, but that it brought an egg, or at least a facehugger, with it. That facehugger is of the “royal” variety, which means that the egg it implants will grow into an alien queen (coincidentally, it can also, apparently, infect a second victim with a second, normal alien larva). The start of Alien 3 shows the facehugger attacking Ripley in her hypersleep chamber, using its acid blood to cut through the outer casing. That blood starts an electrical fire; that fire causes the ship to eject the cryotubes housing Newt, Hicks, Bishop and Ripley, and they crash-land on prison planet Fiorina “Fury” 161.

During the events of Alien 3, we’re told that Hicks and Newt were killed in the crash — apparently, Hicks died when he was impaled by a piece of metal, and Newt drowned. Only Ripley survived the impact, with a damaged Bishop, whom she briefly reactivates later. The events of Alien 3 progress, with the royal facehugger stowing away with the cryotubes and creating a new alien warrior (or “Runner”) on the prison colony (apparently — a lot of the actual biology of the aliens here is inferred and unclear, but obviously a xenomorph is created somehow on Fury 161). Ripley eventually kills that alien and then commits suicide to kill the queen growing inside her, specifically to keep it out of the hands of Weyland-Yutani, the company that’s been trying to get hold of aliens all along.

The idea of Aliens and Alien 3 was that Ripley wiped out all known xenomorphs in the events of those two films — first through the destruction of the atmospheric processor at Hadley’s Hope, which annihilated the xeno infestation on LV-426, and then when she killed the remaining aliens at Fury 161. Weyland-Yutani was unable to get hold of any aliens, and in fact, humans would clone Ripley some 200 years in the future during the events of Alien: Resurrection, in order to also clone the alien queen inside her and create new aliens — presumably because it was impossible to find them anywhere else. (Worth noting: there’s all kinds of extended universe stuff about more alien infestations and attacks, but if we just go by the four Alien films, this is where we end up.)

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54 Comments on All the Ways Aliens: Colonial Marines Breaks the ‘Aliens’ Story

bob

On February 16, 2013 at 7:16 pm

you sir are an idiot clear and simple seriously

why dont you think before posting such drivel rubbish no wonder gamefront is getting worse and worse all the time.
it is due to moronic americans who think because they can not understand something it is wrong think a lot on your op and reflect and review everything with LOGIC

Zahth

On February 16, 2013 at 8:09 pm

Uh . . . Bob, is it?

Everything he said was logical and shows the timeline of the aliens films as presented with the inclusion of the Colonial Marines game.

It’s not really an opinion when all someone does is state the facts as they are presented.

Have something be convoluted and purposely confusing does not automatically make it “deep” and “insightful”.

If you are making something artistic subtlety can be used sparingly to get your point across without bludgeoning your audience with the message. However, in the end Colonial Marines has no real artistic merit to speak of and really has nothing to say about the series or science-fiction/horror in general.

Wesker1984

On February 16, 2013 at 8:28 pm

Exactly what i thought after finishing the game. The story of colonial marines just make the Alien canon more difficult to understand. In my head the Aliens vs Predator game is more canon to the story of the franchise than this suposed ”official sequel” to Aliens.

I was so hyped when they anounced this game and now i am dissapointed by the final product. And no ”extended cuts” will help me to accept more this game in the canon of the Alien franchise.

Hey bob i’m not american too but i agree with this article. Your statment make you almost racist for what you said. Americans have made the best big action movies out here so i love their country. God bless america!

Hellblazer

On February 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm

”•How did the alien hive and the derelict ship on LV-426 survive the atmosphere processor explosion?”

The alien hive was destroyed and the exploding blind aliens warrior seen in the sewers were what was left of the old hive who mutated because of the radiations. For the derelict ship, maybe it was out of the radius of the explosion or the ship was strong enough to resist the explosions.

”•What was WY doing with all the research on the xenomorphs in the first place?”

To create viable bio-weapons.

”•What do the characters do with all the information they got from the android Michael Weyland at the close of the game?”

Plot points left behind for a possible sequel if the game have success.

”•If the alien placenta created by chestbursters is cancerous and kills the host, as we’re told in audio logs in Aliens: Colonial Marines, why are scientists able to cut the queen chestburster out of Ripley in Alien: Resurrection?”

The new Ripley was half-xenomorph in Ressurection. Maybe her body is more resilient than the body of normal humans.

Tiagonal

On February 16, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Hey, watch out! I have a very personal bond with the events of ‘Alien 3′, perhaps a misstep indeed, to a happy ending, but the shocking personal feelings it triggers are one of a kind, only ballsy artists can dare to provoke, and still it was an all-round conclussion to the trilogy (I heard they ‘resurrected’ Alien, but there are those who believe and those who don’t, I don’t know what to believe anymore and I just follow the essence of the matter, didn’t you heard the pope resigned?)

Aside from that, the only big plot hole I totally approve is the atmosphere processor explosion one, after that there’s no way both the Derelict and Hadley’s Hope are still intact, the epic score of Aliens can attest to that. When dealing with licenses so beloved, my advice for now on is to fill up large gaps once left to speculation: Rebecca “Newt” Jorden’s 3 weeks survival in LV-426, Erik Kirby’s survival in Isla Sorna, even larger events such as the Clone Wars and likes… all those events narrated in a single dialogue line that bugs our minds with intense gameplay, but even so, they’ve gotta be treated with extreme care since it’s just about dealing with unknown expectations. I wanted to write more stuff but, it’s so pointless I’ll give it to your imagination: A coconut, a spaceship and a monkey.

LTenhet

On February 16, 2013 at 9:02 pm

The game was pretty subpar, and the plot could have definitely used some more fleshing out so as to make -sense-; but I, for one, HATED the Alien 3 and Alien Ressurection movies and thought they made -no- sense what so ever. So while on one hand, the hand-waving they did to make things work in this invalidates those two movies (and still doesn’t sound that great), on the other hand it invalidates movies that themselves make little sense.
Granted it would have also made more sense if one of the Survivors had been someone like Hudson or Apone or one of the other marines that could have potentially escaped, but that 17 week timeline would have made that also unlikely, Also the only reason I could think that the Alien derelict survived was it was outside the blast radius, though that seemed not to matter much for Ops or anywhere else.

Phil Hornshaw

On February 16, 2013 at 9:08 pm

@Hellblazer

That’s what those sewer guys were about? Did you read that somewhere or did you just infer it? That’s actually pretty slick if that’s what they intended — but then why would they make themselves explode, is the other question. And if they’re irradiated and therefore screwed up, how would “make myself explode” even evolve as a behavior for the creatures?

As to your points about bio-weapons — supposedly. The idea that WY wants aliens for the bio-weapons division is mentioned but never really a definitive answer to the question, if you ask me. Here’s why:

1. Ripley mentions it in Alien, but we don’t know it for sure.
2. Burke mentions it in Aliens, but up to that point Burke is kind of working on his own — the banality of bureaucracy is one of the points Cameron seems to be trying to make. So it’s hard to say if the rest of the company would go, “oh awesome, bioweapons,” especially after the aliens continually seem to eat everyone who gets near them.
3. Bishop Creator (supposedly Michael Weyland) in Alien 3 says to Ripley, “Think of all we could learn from it!” right before she kills herself. Of course, bioweapons could factor there, but again, it’s not definitive.

The point of all that is just to say that we could definitely have used some information about what WY was really planning, instead of just assuming they wanted to make weapon aliens. It’s extremely easy but not backed up by the game in any definitive way.

As for the derelict being outside of the blast radius — possible, definitely, but it still doesn’t track with the fact that the other films focused on Ripley as being the only means through which to get more aliens. If the derelict escaped the blast, you’d think someone would have figured that out in the film canon.

Chickan Sweden

On February 16, 2013 at 9:32 pm

Ripley is chased by Weyland-Yutani corp because she is carrying a queen…

In alien 3 the body supposed to be Lt. Hicks is called UNKNOWN MALE and Death by impalement…’

its not Hicks…..

Aleks

On February 16, 2013 at 9:41 pm

Can we all just agree this game is a mess and move on? The more we talk about it, the more my head hurts.

Axetwin

On February 16, 2013 at 11:27 pm

Believe it or not, there is a legitimate explaination as to why the Derelict Ship, Hadley’s Hope and even some of the Xenomorphs would have survived the reactor explosion. Or atleast legitimate based on my understanding of what happened.

Back when Gearbox first announced that we would be returning to LV-426 and Haley’s Hope, my first reaction was to do my be Phoenix Wright impression, jumping to my feet and pointing directly at my computer yelling “BULLSH*T!!”. So I looked up the science behind it all.

The reactor on LV-426 uses Neutronium as its fuel source, which means the resulting explosion would have been equivalent to a Neutronium bomb (something I think Bishop points out in the movie). Heres the thing about a Neutronium explosion, its almost all heat. Seriously, its 98% heat, 1% concussive force and 1% radiation. The derelict ship would have survived that kind of heat. Sure, whether or not Hadley’s Hope would have survived could be debated solely on the grounds of what the melting point of the metal they used is. If you can accept that the buildings of the settlement would remain standing, then its easier to accept that the Xenos that were several levels beneath the surface would have survived as well.

Unfortunately, this does raise another plothole question. if WY arrived just as the events of Aliens was coming to an end, why did the WY scientists decide LV-426 was safe to go to? Putting aside the fact that planet at the moment had just been superheated, you still can’t ignore the radiation. I know I said it only made up something like 1%, but that one percent is still deadly to humans. I can accept that Xeno physiology is resistant to radiation, but we as humans are not. Sure, Neutronium has an extremely short half-life, but not 17 weeks short. More like 30-50 weeks.

Id like to end this by again saying, this is all based on my understanding of the science behind all this. Its entirely possibly I misunderstood and am entirely wrong about everything.

Maniacfive

On February 17, 2013 at 7:28 am

Well the distress signal is easy enough to explain. At some point off screen between dumping the queen out of the airlock and putting everyone in Cryo sleep, hicks obviously comes round, has a good ole bit of banter with Ripley about how she kicked thats queens arse, and sends the distress signal, then gets tucked into his cryo chamber. Done.

And to be honest, I prefer this retconning than the actual alien canon. Alien 3 was a good film, but as a sequel it completely destroyed the franchise and lead to the abomination that was Alien resurrection. Don’t know if anyone else remembers this but there were a series of graphic novels after Aliens was released which followed Newt and Hicks. Hicks being a washed up drunk suffering from PTSD whom nobody believes about the aliens, and Newt being, something I can’t remember. Anyway, the fact they were alive gave other avenues to explore besides Ripley and the Aliens. If Newt and Hicks had not been killed at the start of Alien 3, the story could have gone exactly the same way with Ripley dying to kill the queen inside her, but the next film could have been anything else, rather than Alien Resurrection.

Since Alien 3, the grpahic novels have all had their dialogue changed and the Hicks and Newt characters are now random soldier/little girl whose backstorys happen to be identical. shame.

John

On February 17, 2013 at 7:46 am

Am I the only one that thinks James Cameron should just make another Aliens movie, and just star Michael Biehn in it. Seriously would help push the canon and save a dying story/franchise

Tiger

On February 17, 2013 at 8:00 am

Alien: Resurrection isn’t considered canon if I’m not mistaken.

Hellblazer

On February 17, 2013 at 11:40 am

@Phil Hornshaw
Dont worry i do not defend this game, i pointed out some things who can be explained. But i agree with you completly.

Phil Hornshaw

On February 17, 2013 at 12:26 pm

@Hellblazer

Not at all, this stuff is totally interesting to me. I like hearing the different ways people interpret the material and the stuff I might have missed.

@Axetwin

Ah yes, you’re right — Bishop does mention a neutron bomb (although he also says “This whole area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska,” but whatever). Good point. And that would sync with Hellblazer’s point about the aliens beneath Hadley’s being the remnants of the first hive, flash-fried with radiation and slowly dying. It’s not a great explanation for their behavior, but it certainly tracks within a video game world. The bummer to that becomes this: with all the random audio logs sitting around, why not bother to plug some of these holes there? Especially if, as it seems, Gearbox et. al. actually did the homework to come up with a working way to rationalize the survival of aliens on LV-426?

@Maniacfive
I guess we could hand-wave it that way, and it’s possible there’s a moment in ALIENS when Hicks gets up and hangs out for a few, but he was so messed up after the escape from Hadley’s that he was basically immobilized. As they’re getting off the dropship, Bishop says they’ll need a stretcher to get Hicks off the dropship — before he gets torn in half by the queen — so one would assume he was in a pretty bad way at that point. But then again, it’s potentially possible he sent the signal at some point after the defeat of the queen but before going into cryo, we just have no real evidence to support it.

As for the graphic novels you’re referring to, those definitely had some interesting ideas, but they kind of go off the rails a bit. I actually have all of them, and the retconned characters you’re referring to end up being called Wilkes and Billy. Wilkes, a marine, went on to become a drunk, while Billy was in a mental hospital for pretty much the rest of her childhood, until Wilkes broke her out as a young adult. Even though the graphic novels have been retconned, though, they still end up meeting Ripley eventually in the story.

If any of you want more on Wilkes and Billy and that sort of extend xeno apocalypse, that portion of the graphic novel story (there were actually a number of short stories as well as the longer ones) are covered in a series of ALIENS novel adaptations from 1992. The first one is called “Earth Hive.” http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Hive-Aliens-Book-1/dp/0553561200/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361132108&sr=8-1&keywords=aliens+earth+hive

You should also check out William Gibson’s draft script of ALIEN 3. It’s a little wonky, but it is cool in that Hicks and Newt survive and are a big part of the story: http://www.horrorlair.com/scripts/alien3_gibson.html

Roy Batty

On February 17, 2013 at 12:35 pm

@John

Just Michael Biehn? Why not bring in Paxton too I like Hudson better than Hicks anyway (Hey good idea! Bishop should go!) and since we never really see his fate…

@Bob

You are right Americans are morons. We should have reacted with more emotion to the Cuban missle crisis and started a nuclear war because we had been insulted instead of thinking about it logically; or maybe we should start one now that the Ruskies are phucking with us again (see Guam incident).

Come to think of it…we elected a clown as president just for you since we thought the world needed a laugh so it’s not all about logic.

Phil Hornshaw

On February 17, 2013 at 1:02 pm

@Roy, @John

You do actually find Hudson in the sewers if you’re paying attention in Colonial Marines, but after several months, you’d think his body would have decayed a little more….

Michael

On February 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm

This game is so bad. I can’t believe that was waiting for this game for so long. And I know better than to buy a game as soon as it comes out….. Oh well, I wasted that money.

I recommend seeing reviews before you buy this game. If you are familiar with Angry Joe, I highly recommend watching his review of this game. I just watched it, and I wish I had seen it “before” I bought the game.

ManiacFive

On February 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm

@Phil

Off the rails is right. Not a perfect continuation for sure but to this Alien fans mind, better than those frakking clones! I remember that panel when tey meet up with Ripley again. In a completely over the top fashion, Ripley quite possibly holding a massive gun in a ridiculous comic book pose. Ahhh, the 90′s. :D

Man I gotta take a trip back to parents and find my Aliens stuff. Although, the old Titan publishing graphic novels I had… notorious for being read once, and the pages immediately falling out of the spine.

Rilokin

On February 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm

I would be just as content if they would make a story, saying aliens 3, and 4 was just a bad dream Ripley was having while in cryo sleep, have her wake up from the sleep (wiping the slate clean) for a fresh story that made sense, and did the franchise some justice. Ripley, Hicks, Bishop, and Newt alive etc.

Phil Hornshaw

On February 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm

@Maniacfive

I went on a tear a few years ago and hunted down all the graphic novel omnibuses, of which there are, like, six. It was…interesting, as well as pretty fun. But you’re right, I’m not a big fan of the plot changes established in ALIEN 3. I don’t dislike the movie, but in the overall continuity it’s just frustrating.

@Rilokin

Given the state of Hollywood lately, it’s wouldn’t be impossible to see a reboot, I think.

Drax

On February 17, 2013 at 4:36 pm

My take immediately was that Hicks was sending the distress signal during the time on the drop ship while Ripley was heading down to save Newt.

Aedelric

On February 17, 2013 at 9:55 pm

Personally I see as many plot discrepancies in Aliens: Colonial Marines, essentially due to the fact I do not consider Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection to be canon. Those two films were utter trash and best left forgotten.

The Alien franchise has never been a “thinking mans film” but just an almost no-brained action/horror film, it really should be treated as such. Once you start thinking about the various plots the story starts to fall apart, especially with the official canon in the later films.

Anyway, I thought the games developers planned Alien Colonial Maries was a squeal to Aliens and not Aliens 3? So why are you comparing them for plot elements Phil? Go watch the Randy Pitchford developer interview trailer. He directly states that Colonial marines is a direct squeal to James Cameron’s film Aliens. Bob was harsh with what he said, but he was right, you have not done your research this time.

Aedeleirc

On February 17, 2013 at 9:57 pm

I meant to add a “do not” to that sentence.

“Personally I do not see as many plot discrepancies in Aliens: Colonial Marines”

Freudian slip? Perhaps. :D

If we had a way to edit our comments, that would be great. ;)

Phil Hornshaw

On February 17, 2013 at 10:41 pm

@Aedeleirc

I have to disagree, I have DEFINITELY done my research, and I’m fully aware of what Mr. Pitchford has said in regards to Colonial Marines. But just because YOU decide to ignore the stories of the films doesn’t make them not exist for the rest of us. And just because Pitchford said the movie was a sequel to ALIENS, that doesn’t discount the existence of ALIEN 3 — which is, um, a sequel to ALIENS. While Pitchford and Gearbox were supposedly directly sequeling aliens from a story and thematic perspective, that still doesn’t invalidate the existence of additional material in the canon. And furthermore, if you’re going to add to the canon in the middle, you need to pay attention to what already exists within it.

All that said, Colonial Marines takes place post-ALIEN 3 and it includes some vague references to that movie. It takes it into account, so why shouldn’t we?

AliensMotherLover

On February 17, 2013 at 10:46 pm

Should have just made Alien 3 and 4 hypersleep nightmares and had Hicks, Newt, and Ripley on an quest to stop an alien infestation on Earth. Pay the basic respect to those two movies by showing them as reoccurring nightmares for Ripley just as she had the nightmares in Aliens. Then get on with the sequel everyone wanted. And it could have been full of marines also.

Why go back to LV-426 other than to just try to clone/ape Aliens? How about just take what made it great and apply it into another, grander story like the infestation of Earth. That would have been epic.

Blade

On February 18, 2013 at 3:35 am

Unfortunately, this game was so bad, I told the guy who bought it, that I didn’t want to see any more of it after the first fight. This game is THAT BAD.

Blade

On February 18, 2013 at 5:02 am

AliensMotherLover:

There was a version of Alien 3 in the works, that may have seen something like that. I saw it as a trailer to Pulp Fiction in a theater. It was extremely vague, but had a tag line something like “On Earth, everyone will scream.” Then a different Alien 3 logo. Swear.

Also, everyone I’ve ever told this to doesn’t believe me. But I swear it’s true.

IrishAliensFan

On February 18, 2013 at 9:19 am

Blade – you are absolutely right – I’ve seen that trailer. It was the Alien egg over Earth, and “Mr Voiceover” said, “On Earth… *EVERYONE* can hear you scream…”

Oh, and I found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_x9W1xKng

Phil Hornshaw

On February 18, 2013 at 9:38 am

@IrishAliensFan, @Blade

Yeah, the original plan was Earth. If you guys aren’t aware of it, you’ll probably be fascinated to spend some time reading about the development of ALIEN 3. The movie we ended up with is the result of the script going through some intense development hell over at Fox, which is why so many people consider it to be something of a mess. Something like four directors and numerous versions of the script, written and rewritten, to the point where even the original marketing materials were a mess, as demonstrated by that video. It’s really interesting to see all the hoops it ended up having to go through to get made.

@Chickan Sweden

I included the image from the message sent to WY. The body has always been Hicks up to the retcon by Colonial Marines. But if you’ve seen any of the dummies made for ALIEN 3 (which are only barely shown on screen), you’ll see that originally, Hicks was supposed to be completely maimed from the neck up — probably because Fox didn’t want to pay Michael Biehn for his likeness or to use his face for molds, but with the effect of making the identification of the body a possible mistake. The trouble with this plot point is, if that dude isn’t Hicks, who the hell is he?

Brad

On February 18, 2013 at 11:02 am

I think that some of the speculation about the Alien franchise in general will be answered in the coming years with the Prometheus films. Ridley Scott has already started trying to find a means to develop a sequel to Prometheus, and apparently he intends for the sequel to tie in with the Alien films at some point. As we see in Prometheus, WY heads to a planet where they find a “Space Jockey” ship. Some of the other critters they find on the ship are similar in some ways to the xenomorphs from aliens, and some seem far more insidious.

That said, Colonial Marines doesn’t seem to fit the canon very well.

I think that some of the mess that was made with the Alien franchise in general is the result of it changing hands so often, so we end up with plotholes and weak writing in some cases.

Phil Hornshaw

On February 18, 2013 at 11:11 am

@Brad

That’s definitely true, ALIEN never had the unifying vision of franchises like, say, STAR WARS. That said, I’m not super-thrilled about PROMETHEUS messing with things. I thought that movie had already been distanced from ALIEN — not a prequel but kind of a prequel but not the same universe but sort of similar? Anyway…PROMETHEUS isn’t helping matters. At all.

Peter

On February 18, 2013 at 3:29 pm

Why did they need to torture Hicks? Bishop would have told them anything they wanted, he should have been the priority.

IrishAliensFan

On February 19, 2013 at 2:03 am

@Phil Hornshaw

Personally, I really liked Prometheus – and I don’t want to start one of those “You hated it and are wrong!” kind of posts, promise. I can see it had its flaws (like the dumbest geologist and biologist in the universe!) but I think it gets bad press too (“The scientists took off their helmets!” – yeah, only after they all begged the first one who did not too, and there was no airborne contagion anyway.) Anyhow!

I was just going to say that I don’t think it breaks any of the continutity from Alien, Aliens or even… Alien 3? Resurrection was a step too far for me, as bad as 3 was. We always had some inkling that the Xenomorphs were bioengineered – “the perfect organism”, and Prometheus showed us who did it – that’s all really? :D

Phil Hornshaw

On February 19, 2013 at 2:19 am

@IrishAliensFan

Yeah, that’s fair. I’m not really into hating on anybody for liking the movie or not, anyway. For my part, the idea that they ARE bioweapons is something I find somehow less cool than the idea that they just exist in the universe, the product of a perfectly horrific but logical evolution. But whatever, that’s a personal preference.

As to the Engineers and PROMETHEUS — you’re right, the scientists are dumb as hell (consistently, and in many different ways). That bugged me. The many plot holes in the movie bugged me (Lindelooooooooffff!). But one of the most frustrating things about it for me is that nothing about the black goo really makes any sense. It never reacts in a way you understand or expect. PROMETHEUS lacks a working set of rules, and because of that, it kinda feels like they’re just chucking stuff at the wall. “Oh, what if there’s a snake alien! And then the oil gets in your eye and it’s totally gross! But later she has to cut a squid thing out of herself! And then at the end we have to have something that kinda looks like the alien because that’s totally what the fans want to see!”

Anyway. That’s my take. What I like about ALIEN (for the most part because there’s still a lot of random mystery or weird, nonsensical biology) is that while the aliens are horrific, they still follow a set of rules that feels somehow realistic. The movie follows its own internal logic, to the point that it’s possible to imagine a reality in which these creatures might actually exist. They FEEL like something nature could create — which makes them all the scarier, at least for me.

Aedelric

On February 19, 2013 at 3:29 am

Reading your comments Phil, it is like seeing someone stick their fingers in their ears and shout “LALALALA I can not hear you!” :D

I disagree with your view completely, and I do not think you did the research you claim. But, you are passionate in your personal opinion, just remember not all of us have to agree with you.

Maniacfive

On February 19, 2013 at 5:01 am

The black slime in Prometheus, is a total mcguffin. It might as well be a wizard in a tower causing it all makes that little sense.

That said, besides the scientists being incredibly unscientific, I did enjoy prometheus in its own way. Looks awesome on Blu-ray too.

quicktooth

On February 19, 2013 at 7:04 am

It seems no-one has mentioned the sheer UNFAIRNESS of Alien 3′s plot. Ripley’s been through Hell TWICE. As someone who saw Alien and Aliens close together, it’s just too painful to contemplate what they did in Aliens 3. And as for the article, I agree on all points. I might add that Weylad Utani is *so* psychopathic in it’s treatment of everyone it’s very hard to believe that it could possibly remain a functioning buisness… scratch that, a cohesive group of people…

Phil Hornshaw

On February 19, 2013 at 8:30 am

@Aedeleric

What? I’m not the one who’s just dismissing whole movies because I don’t like them. Colonial Marines MENTIONS the events of ALIEN 3 as happening before the game starts — characters start asking about the events at Fury 161 — so I don’t really understand what you’re even talking about. Randy Pitchford may have said it’s a sequel to ALIENS but it’s a part of the greater timeline. The game tells us this over and over again. It couldn’t be more obvious.

I don’t see how I’m the one with my fingers in my ears if you’re the one who’s ignoring that ALIEN 3 exists and that Colonial Marines mentions it exists, takes its story elements into consideration, and still fails to properly sync up with them.

Brad

On February 19, 2013 at 10:01 am

@Phil: Yeah, I have to agree that there was a lot about Prometheus that was off. As you said, it seems that they started throwing random ideas in to see what would work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(film)

Apparently, Prometheus is a sort of prequel sort of spinoff kind of thing. Ridley Scott apparently wants a sequel done to bridge the gap between Prometheus and the Alien film. Lindelof seemed to imply that he wanted to take Prometheus in a different direction and try to avoid links to the Alien films.

Phil Hornshaw

On February 19, 2013 at 10:46 am

@IrishAliensFan

The weirdness with PROMETHEUS still confuses me. I remember when the marketing started to shift away from “ALIEN prequel” toward “ALIEN sidestory-alternate universe or something-but with some similarities” or whatever. Personally, I think I’d prefer PROMETHEUS to grow into its own (and maybe become something a little more cogent) than try to shoehorn in with what there is of ALIEN already. As has been mentioned here, that franchise is already something of a mess. PROMETHEUS bothered me but I still think it has potential.

Blade

On February 24, 2013 at 7:56 am

@Phil (anyone else too)

I don’t imagine anyone else ever remembers seeing that trailer? Would love to have it somewhere … and also would love validation that I wasn’t crazy, and that there were actually teaser trailers about an Alien 3 that had Earth as part of it’s plot (I doubt it would’ve been actually aliens ON earth, more like stopping the aliens from REACHING earth..)

Phil Hornshaw

On February 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm

@Blade

This one?

http://youtu.be/Bk_x9W1xKng

fanwankelrotoryengine

On February 28, 2013 at 11:35 am

Yes. I played it. And yes…I feel betrayed. Like Fredo betraying Michael levels of betrayed.

But that’s neither here nor there. What does matter is that in a way, we kind of had it coming to us. Yes, we did not see it coming… but what else could we have really expected from a company with two major releases almost back to back. Undoubtedly one would take precedence over the other. Which puzzles me. Bwcause both games approach gargantuan levels of suck. I am actually just going to stop thinking of it and get on with my life… because this sh*t makes my brain hurt.

But enough hate on Alien 3. I would truly like to see you haters doing as good a job as a first rime director than David Finscher. He did the best job he could with the sh*t that Fox gave him to work with. No…it’s not th best. But it could have been much worse. ‘Alien Resurrection’, anyone?

PeteTB

On March 5, 2013 at 3:22 pm

@Axetwin ‘which means the resulting explosion would have been equivalent to a Neutronium bomb’

From the Aliens script:

BISHOP
Four hours…with a blast radius of thirty kilometers.
Equal to about forty megatons.

There’d be nothing left.

Jacob

On April 1, 2013 at 1:11 pm

That’s a lot of questions… lemme see if I can answer them-

Hicks was reported dead at Fury 161 — so who was in the cryotube, and how did he get there? The game hand-waves past explaining how Hicks wasn’t dead at the beginning of Alien 3.

- My only guess is a PMC as suggested or even another WY cover up

How did the alien hive and the derelict ship on LV-426 survive the atmosphere processor explosion?

- The explosion could have been electrical based and not kinetic based… think EMP + Lightning… it happens in nature from time to time and in many video games. Bishop wasn’t perfect in “Aliens” and could have had his information wrong.

How did Hicks know about Ripley’s fate, which he mentions briefly in dialog to O’Neal?

- It could have been used as a torture tool… 17 weeks is a long time.

If Weyland-Yutani intercepted the Sulaco at Fury 161, presumable because the cryopods were ejected without Hicks in his, why did it take them so long to return to the prison colony in Alien 3?

- Long range communications, even in that time line, take a long time. It is possible thatthey didn’t know she was in it, or more importantly, that she was impregnated.

Why did WY need Ripley and her alien queen in the first place if LV-426 was still full of viable alien specimens, and they even created a new queen?

- Because it is Ripley, whm, in the 4th film, “Effectively wiped out the species”

What was WY doing with all the research on the xenomorphs in the first place?

- Genetically engineering controls into them. Burke told Ripley in “Aliens” that “They are worth Billions to Bio-Weapons”

Why turn the Sulaco into an alien hive?

- Easily able to be detonated if things get out of control. Even if every PMC dies the Aliens are trapped on it and the ship can be destroyed thus containing the outbreak.

Why bring the Sulaco back to LV-426, especially if that’s the first place the Colonial Marines would look for it?

- WY thinks they own the Marines, as has been shown in the movies. Plus, LV426 is where the “Engineer” ship is at. The better question is what happened to the Wyland Yutani ship that got them there in the first place?

Why torture Hicks, apparently for weeks?

- “WHERE IS RIPLEY?!?! WHAT HAPPENED HERE?!?!?!? WHERE IS BURKE?!?!? GET ME A SANDWICH!!!!

If there are still aliens on LV-426 at the close of Aliens: Colonial Marines, why do scientists 200 years later in Alien: Resurrection believe they must clone Ripley in order to also clone the alien inside her?

- 200 years is a long time to assume that the aliens on LV-426 are still alive. If the Colonial Marines win against WY, they could come back and nuke the site from orbit since it’s the only way to be sure…

What do the characters do with all the information they got from the android Michael Weyland at the close of the game?

- War against WY? Not sure on that one.

Why was there a robotic Michael Weyland at LV-426 but the real Michael Weyland went to get Ripley at Fury 161 (revealed in Alien 3 when Weyland is hit by a pipe and bleeds red blood, rather than white android blood)?

- in AVP Michael Weyland dies at the hand of a Predator… also, his ear is dangling so it could be a newer model. Again, conjecture but entirely possible.

How did Weyland-Yutani create a new queen? (Additional Aliens lore explains the creation of queens but it’s not dealt with in the game at all)

- Um… with the Alien’s lore?

If the alien placenta created by chestbursters is cancerous and kills the host, as we’re told in audio logs in Aliens: Colonial Marines, why are scientists able to cut the queen chestburster out of Ripley in Alien: Resurrection?

- This is easy. Genetics is the Deus Ex Machina of Sci Fi. They have cloned her so many times that she is now part alien… poof! No cancer!

Did the facehugger cause the fire coincidentally at the exact same time the Sulaco was attacked by PMCs? Was it brought by the queen or the WY guys? How did that work?

- Only guesses can be sure but it is possible that the cryo tubes were not jettisoned when the PMC’s show up because the Sulaco is a WY ship and thus they havethe proper codes to board. The facehugger was likely brought by WY due to the queen not having the chance to lay it. She doesn’t have an egg when she looks at the elevator. Otherwise, I got nuthin…

If Hicks was in his hypersleep chamber during the fight with the alien queen, when did he send the distress signal? If it was while over Fury 161, why didn’t he mention the PMC attack? Or Fury 161? Or the ejected cryotubes?

- Umm…. hrmm… not sure.

If Hicks fought a guy, dropped him into a cryotube and closed that cryotube, why didn’t he wake up Ripley and Newt right then?

- It wasn’t safe. With them in the cryotubes they are not factored in to his concerns while defending the ship.

Why the hell did it take the Sephora 17 weeks to respond to Hick’s distress signal?

- Ask Hudson how long it takes for a rescue party…. also, it takes a while to travel, right?

So those are MY guesses to the plot holes… I wonder what Fox thinks?

algomeysa

On April 11, 2013 at 1:33 am

I’m not attempting to defend the many plot holes in the game…

….But the derelict extraterrestrial ship (space jockey ship, boomerang) surviving the blast on LV-426 probably isn’t one of them.

LV-426 is about 12,000 kilometers diameter, .86 gravity, approximately the size of Venus.

So even if the blast did turn everything into “a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska” around Hadley’s Hope…

It just means the derelict ship is further away from Hadley’s Hope than half the size of Nebraska.

On a planet nearly the size of Earth, this is easily possible.

The derelict ship has to be fairly far from Hadley’s Hope…. otherwise, they would have stumbled on it in the last 20 years. But they didn’t, until Carter Burke sent the memo for them to go check out the coordinates (if we go by the deleted scene from ALIENS, Newt’s family discovered it, and then, her dad got a facehuggin’).

David

On May 29, 2013 at 5:58 pm

Okay, I’m going for it. All of the question, I’m going to take a shot. Don’t send me nastygrams. This is a “statement”, not an “opening for dialogue”. I’ve seen how hostile people get about this franchise and I don’t do flame wars.

For the record, I am in no way defending the game. There’s a lot of “horsecrap” in it, roughly as much as “Prometheus”. I don’t know about the rest of you all, but I’m rather sick of being disappointed with films/games I waited forever to see. A little research goes a long way.

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Hicks was reported dead at Fury 161 — so who was in the cryotube, and how did he get there? The game hand-waves past explaining how Hicks wasn’t dead at the beginning of Alien 3.
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The identity of the person in the cryotube at the beginning of “Alien 3″ was assumed to be Hicks. Similar build and all that, but with this entire head crushed beyond recognition.
Even the actual model used for filming that scene gives you the impression that it might not be him, as the few identifiable features of what’s left of his flattened head don’t look exactly
like Michael Biehn. However, for all intents and purposes, Hicks is listed as KIA.

And yes, the game hand-waves past that, but at least it’s addressed as “A long story” in the game itself.

Based on the disastrous response to the game, we’ll probably never know.

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How did the alien hive and the derelict ship on LV-426 survive the atmosphere processor explosion?
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That one is a bit easier. According to dialogue from “Aliens”, the fusion reactor in the processor going critical would “produce an explosion with a blast radius of 30 kilometers; equal to about 40 megatons”. This is a mistake in the script, probably for dramatic effect or due to halfhearted research. Remember, the Alien films do not qualify as “hard” science fiction (a.k.a. “2001: A Space Odyssey”. Requires a lot of forgiveness and “suspension of disbelief”. Anyway…..

1. Nuclear reactors don’t “explode” in the same way an atomic bomb does. The materials inside can superheat and produce a staggering amount of pressure, producing a local explosion like what was seen at Chernobyl (not a fusion reactor, I know). But the materials themselves dont undergo a matter-energy conversion like they do in a reaction in an atomic/hydrogen/antimatter bomb. Instead, what we might have seen happen is the reactor core would superheat enough to either blow the lid off it’s own containment vessel, or melt through the floor of the reactor building, theoretically down to the water table (a la “The China Syndrome). Either way there wouldn’t be a huge “explosion”, but it would produce massive very long term fallout. That entire area would be covered in bits and pieces of extremely radioactive reactor fuel. It’s doubtful even the Xenomorphs could withstand exposure to radiation levels like those experienced close to an exposed core.

2. Let’s say the reactor can undergo a “nuclear” type explosion. The largest nuclear device ever detonated was the former Soviet Union’s “Tsar Bomba”, with a yield of 57 megatons (scaled down from a 100 mt design, I might add). This produced a fireball 8 km in diameter. Obviously a 40 mt explosion would produce a smaller fireball. Note that inside the fireball temperatures exceeding the surface of the sun. This temperature is high enough to turn most known materials into carbon instantly. At ground level this would have produced a crater larger than the atmosphere processor itself, and very intense local fallout. Now, it’s entirely possible sections of Hadley’s Hope might still be intact due to it’s distance from the processor, and likewise for the Derelict, but there would be virtually nothing left of the atmosphere processing facility except for portions of the foundation.

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How did Hicks know about Ripley’s fate, which he mentions briefly in dialog to O’Neal?
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The cryotubes were ejected while Hicks was still onboard. Note that the EEV crash landing on Fury 161 was an accident. EEV’s have drag chutes to slow their descent. Without them, the craft would hit the surface at terminal velocity, completely disintegrating and killing all the occupants instantly. Presumably, the drag chutes partially failed. WY would have known this and presumed the occupants were all killed on impact.

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If Weyland-Yutani intercepted the Sulaco at Fury 161, presumable because the cryopods were ejected without Hicks in his, why did it take them so long to return to the prison colony in Alien 3?
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They had no reason to go back, from their perspective. They didn’t know anyone survived, nor did they know there was a live facehugger on it (the one that tried to get into Newt’s cryotube and failed. Remember, two facehuggers. Two egg cases are clearly shown in the beginning of Alien 3 (both laid by the Queen, not “brought on board”).

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Why did WY need Ripley and her alien queen in the first place if LV-426 was still full of viable alien specimens, and they even created a new queen?
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That’s where things break down. Mostly due to timeline errors. Their only reason for returning to Fury 161 must mean that something has happened in the interim on LV-426 to wipe out the Xenomorph populace/specimens there.

Remember that the “Bishop” who visits Fury 161 is the real Weyland whom the Bishop androids are modeled after. “I’m not a droid!”.

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What was WY doing with all the research on the xenomorphs in the first place?
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A consolation prize because they didn’t get what they were “really” after. Oh you’ll like this.
You have to ask the really important question: “Why was there a standing order to investigate possible alien contacts in the first place?”

WY has known about non-terrestrial life for some time. At the end of Alien vs. Predator 2 (the movie), “Yutani” is presented with some Predator artifacts. They’ve known about the capabilities of Predator technology at least since 1994 (The events of Predator 2: The movie). That’s what they wanted. What was actually found was something quite different: The xenomorphs.

So why all the research? Simple. Greed. The “scientific” mentality of WY is no different than the mentality of Nazi doctors who tried to impregnate female Jewish prisoners with the semen of German shepard dogs. Detachted, compassionless greed.

“You know, Burke, I don’t know which species is worse. You don’t seem them ing eachother over for a ed percentage.”

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Why turn the Sulaco into an alien hive?
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Good unanswered question.

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Why bring the Sulaco back to LV-426, especially if that’s the first place the Colonial Marines would look for it?
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They don’t think the Colonial Marines know about it.

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Why torture Hicks, apparently for weeks?
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To gather any intel they can about the Aliens, and how much the CM actually ‘know’ about them. Rememeber
that the overwhelming majority of those in the ‘outside’ world who’ve heard about them don’t believe they
exist.

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If there are still aliens on LV-426 at the close of Aliens: Colonial Marines, why do scientists 200 years later in Alien: Resurrection believe they must clone Ripley in order to also clone the alien inside her?
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According to Alien:Resurrection (movie), WY has been long since dissolved. The wisecrack is that they were “bought out by Wal-Mart”. probably a joke on the script-writer’s behalf. because the operation is military in nature, it’s assumed that an actual “war” between the CM and WY did happen sometime after the events of ACM and Alien 3, and the CM won. Of course, people are greedy. Sooner or later someone would see an opportunity to make money and do something incredibly stupid, like try to teach them tricks.

While unproven, sometime after the events of ACM/Alien 3, the xenomorph populate on LV-426 has been destroyed.

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What do the characters do with all the information they got from the android Michael Weyland at the close of the game?
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Presumably that would have been addressed in a sequel to ACM, which I would not count on happening now based on the reaction to ACM. Other than whatever bull can be squeezed from the quivering intestines of the corpse of “Prometheus”, I’d call the franchise dead. Just my opinion.

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Why was there a robotic Michael Weyland at LV-426 but the real Michael Weyland went to get Ripley at Fury 161
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Because Michael Weyland isn’t completely stupid, at least when his own safety would be at stake. Wouldn’t shock me at all if he was on the ship in hiding, watching the dialogue and later escaping. Something else that would be expected to be addressed in a sequel to ACM, that will likely never happen.

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How did Weyland-Yutani create a new queen? (Additional Aliens lore explains the creation of queens but it’s not dealt with in the game at all)
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You said it already. Not addressed because it doesn’t need to be. It does tell you that viable queen eggs happen more often than we think. This is a species geared for one thing: Survival. And they have shown a tremendous ability to adapt very, very rapidly.

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If the alien placenta created by chestbursters is cancerous and kills the host, as we’re told in audio logs in Aliens: Colonial Marines, why are scientists able to cut the queen chestburster out of Ripley in Alien: Resurrection?
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Two things:
1. a little over 200 years in medical/technological advances.
2. Ripley of Alien: Resurrection isn’t human. She’s a human-alien hybrid, complete with partially acidic blood, exceptional strength, a small degree of telepathy, the ability to detect alien pheromones at a distance, and dramatic healing abilities. In other words, her body could fight it. Ours could not.

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Did the facehugger cause the fire coincidentally at the exact same time the Sulaco was attacked by PMCs? Was it brought by the queen or the WY guys? How did that work?
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WY didn’t know about the eggs on board. The ejection was done automatically by the Sulaco’s computer when the fire was detected. Hicks had been captured by this point and was undergoing interrogation when the fire broke out that caused the EEV to be ejected. presumably, the fire was put out and WY, deciding that the EEV was destroyed on impact with Fury 161, hauled Hicks and the Sulaco back to the point of origin.

Ripley is found on the beach by prisoners on fury 161 in a barely conscious state, having been ripped from hibernation rather than being woken up correctly. She was impregnated just before the EEV was ejected. This also explains why she didn’t drown (since the facehuggers breathe for you). Interesting, I hadn’t actually thought about that point until now :) .

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If Hicks was in his hypersleep chamber during the fight with the alien queen, when did he send the distress signal?
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After being woken up, as WY was taking over the ship. He was captured shortly afterwards, before the EEV was ejected.

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If it was while over Fury 161, why didn’t he mention the PMC attack? Or Fury 161? Or the ejected cryotubes?
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He does mention being under attack. The location was already broadcast. And he didn’t mention the ejected tubes because it hadn’t happened yet.

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If Hicks fought a guy, dropped him into a cryotube and closed that cryotube, why didn’t he wake up Ripley and Newt right then?
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The identity of the person in the cryotube is still unknown, unfortunately.

Not waking up Ripley and Newt was probably foresight. Probably safer that was. Plus, give the guy a break. he’d already been through hell and back and to wake up to your ship being boarded? From hypersleep? With no coffee? He’s a little ragged.

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Why the hell did it take the Sephora 17 weeks to respond to Hick’s distress signal?
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Now that’s a good one. You’re thinking what I was thinking. 17 days. I have a feeling this is a screwup on the writer’s part. or the information given to the marines about rescue in “Aliens” was wrong. 17 weeks sounds more believable to me, anyway.

jam man

On August 12, 2013 at 4:54 am

just to add some more contreversey, it is not repeat not hudson in the sewers with his chest burst open, someone has commented on another forum that is because the marine secreted in the sewer wall does not have hudsons graffiti on his chest plate, however his chest is so burst open you would not see that anyway so that is not a valid reason. Here it is it is not hudason because do you remember the first battle with the aliens where frost, weirsbowski, dietrich, crowe, apone and drake die? hudson receives an acid burn on his left forearm and burke bandages the wound (a rather big bandage too) the marine secreted on the sewer wall has a small band on his right wrist (watch carefully they all have this its like a wrist band, this dead marine has no bandage on his right forearm (i dont think gearbox would even overlook that) this guy looks kind of like hudson but so does weirsbowski. I believe strongly the marine in the sewers in supposed to be weirsbowski but it could even be deitrich

Phil Hornshaw

On August 12, 2013 at 8:42 am

@Jam Man

Actually, I snapped a screen of it when I encountered Hudson in-game, and it’s pretty obviously him. Here’s the link to the screenshot on Steam:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/920144123016829777/1C06B6932B273C2D3DD972FDFA9160CB825A5833/

To me, that’s Bill Paxton without a doubt. You’re right about chest graffiti being hard to see or absent altogether, but then again, remember what game we’re dealing with here. Also note the bandage on the arm (although in the wrong place….)

Phil Hornshaw

On August 12, 2013 at 8:56 am

@Jam Man

Actually, just found an image of Hudson that shows him wearing a sweatband or something on his right wrist — that must be what the white thing is in the image. Missing his bandages though, which I can only suggest is the result of derpy laziness. Pretty clearly Hudson to met, though.

jam man

On August 12, 2013 at 9:01 am

As for the 17 days rescue, the whole line has been taken out of context. Remember Ripley say how long till we are declared overdue can we expect a rescue mission? Hicks responds with 17 days, this means after 17 days no contact a rescue mission will be dispatched not arrive they would leave gateway station in 17 days and not arrive for many weeks later. Hudson is pissed cause he knows they dont have to last 17 days he knows they still have to et there after that and hes really not happy about it

Phil Hornshaw

On August 12, 2013 at 9:14 am

@Jam Man

You’re right that 17 days isn’t the timing it would take the USCM to respond, but 17 weeks is so long as to be ridiculous — why send a distress signal at all if no one can show up to help you for more than four months? That’s a pretty terrible SOP for marine detachments if they’re essentially going to be on their own for a quarter-year every time they go on a mission.

That said, the timing is addressed in the DLC pack “Stasis Interrupted.” Part of the reason for the delay is that Hicks’ distress signal never gets sent — instead, apparently, the Sulaco is just going to fly back and not let anyone know what happens, until the events of the DLC screw things up, trigger the launch of Ripley and Newt’s EEV, and so on. WY forces show up and Hicks is forced to make his way back to LV-426 to send the distress signal — and that’s not even until AFTER the events of Alien 3. WY has already gotten pretty far along in creating their research facility on LV-426 by that point as well, so it could have been a while after the events of Aliens that most of Stasis Interrupted even happens. It’s still convoluted, but the 17 weeks delay, poetic as it is given the 17 days remark from the film, is based on that delay in the sending of the distress signal.

Sucks that we needed a DLC to explain that, as well as many of the other Hicks-related plot holes. You can read our review here: http://www.gamefront.com/aliens-colonial-marines-stasis-interrupted-dlc-review/

Andy

On September 18, 2014 at 11:38 am

Some of this isn’t too hard to answer with definite or possible responses:
1. The guy in Hicks’ cryotube was the PMC who attacked.
2. The Derelict’s hive was protected partially by the Derelict itself. But most importantly, there was a huge mountain range between Hadley and the Derelict that would have stopped the Atmo blast from doing significant damage to the Derelict.
3. It is possible that WY told Hicks about Ripley. Not sure why they would, but whatever.
4. Had WY gotten to Fury right after the call (or even before the call), 85, despite his low IQ, would have known something was up. WY would essentially have given up its plan.
5. WY likely hadn’t gone to 426 yet to see that the Derelict was still intact.
6. The research was being used for further development of artificial strains to produce the perfect living weapon for warfare and spoilers (read backwards: staerht neila reggib ffo thgif).
7. Why turn Sulaco into a hive? Could be various reasons. But was this even intentional?
8. Sulaco would be brought back to 426 so the aliens would all be in one spot. Easier to control I suppose.
9. Hicks had some information, perhaps some that he saw from Bishop’s research? Also to confirm that none of the other Marines survived.
10. The understanding is that eventually, the aliens are killed, at least to the point that they are no longer readily available to WY,scientists, USMC, etc.
11. Not sure about Michael Weyland, but what is wrong with the real one going to Fury? And he can’t be in two places at once.
12. See comic books, video games. Even the movies can sort of explain this. And future movies?
13. Cancer can be cut out just like an alien. The real question should be: Why did they let Ripley clone live after they removed the alien?
14. Most likely, the facehugger was brought by WY during an attack. It would also explain why Bishop wouldn’t have had Ripley do a scan of Sulaco before going to sleep.
15. I can’t really comment on what was going on in Hick’s mind during his decision on what to include in a distress signal. Mainly, the signal was likely just to get people to come help him. He could explain the rest later. There was a fire and an attack going on (and also possibly, a vacuum being created during the jettisoning of the cryotubes. I don’t know.
16. Did Hicks have the opportunity to wake up Ripley and Newt? Would they have been better off being awake? Perhaps he wanted them jettisoned so that the PMCs wouldn’t get them. Again, can’t tell what was going on in his mind. And again, heat of the moment.
17. 17 weeks isn’t terribly long. I realize that the first round of Marines got to 426 in just over 2 weeks, but we know they were readily available. Also, we’re talking about a whole colony of people, as opposed to just one person and no real emergency.