Andrew House Thinks PS4 Can ‘Greatly Exceed’ PS3′s Sales

The last generation has been extremely competitive, what with the PS3 and Xbox 360 coming up about even in unit sales in their lifetimes, an interesting outcome given the 360 was launched a year earlier while the PS3 left no room for the 360 in the core Japanese market. Even coming off a 150 million seller like the PS2, though, 80 million sold isn’t the worst thing ever for either system, but Sony’s Andrew House thinks the PS4 could go well beyond that mark. Could.

“It has an opportunity to significantly exceed what we’ve been able to achieve with PS3 and there’s a couple of reasons for that,” House told MCV. “We start off with a price point that is much more consumer friendly than was there for the PS3. Also, one of the success stories for the business as a whole has been our ability to open up new geographies for video games over the last five years. You are seeing opportunities for new markets that we haven’t tapped into.”

He also talks about media consumption and all that, which isn’t necessarily the auto-win for Xbone some folks think it is given the decline of cable. And also marathon, not sprint, etc. It’s all up in the air. That House says “has an opportunity” instead of “will” or “we expect” is quite a qualification. We don’t know anything, and even Sony knows that as they bet the farm.

But with PC gaming dead*, that is one fewer thing for the consoles to deal with as well, and that naturally bodes well for the PS4′s future. As it stands now, PS4 is at about 2.1 million sold, and Xbox One is “more than a million” as of a week and a half ago.

*yes, I am completely 100-percent sincere without any sort of irony whatsoever about PC gaming being dead despite the fact that this is a PC-oriented site with a heavy bias toward PC gaming in general as well as how I’m typing these words on an expensive PC I built two years with my bare hands that contains more horsepower than a PS4.

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16 Comments on Andrew House Thinks PS4 Can ‘Greatly Exceed’ PS3′s Sales

Tanami

On December 6, 2013 at 2:38 am

I just want to react a little on the comment that PC gamming is dead. The problem with PC hardware as I see it is that all those big gaming rigs aren’t being fully used. And the reason, in my opinion, is that there are more people with older setups then people with high-end gamming systems. And developers want to reach a maximum of potential costumers, so they make their games for PC based on older hardware, so more people can play it. On the console on the other hand, Developers know exactly what every console owner has, so they can fully utilize the console’s hardware.
I have nothing against PC gamming, I used to be a PC guy. But now I mainly play on PS3/4. It’s much more convenient, no endless tweaking of settings to get the right FPS/Graphics ratio etc.
Certain games just play beter on a PC though. Games like Startcraft II and FPS games for example. But that’s mainly due to the mouse/ keyboard setup.
(This comment is not intended to start a PC / Console war, both platforms have their own plus and down sides) It comes down to personal choice, but I just wanted to point out that even though a PC setup is much more powerful then PS4/Xbox one, it isn’t fully utilized.

Tanami

On December 6, 2013 at 2:46 am

Sorry, misspelled gaming.

AxΣtwin

On December 6, 2013 at 4:21 am

@ Tanami – I agree it does come down to personal choice. However, this guy lost any credibility he had with his “pc gaming is dead” comment. That a completely ignorant statement to make.

Patches

On December 6, 2013 at 6:00 am

PC gaming is dead… Yeah, right…
Didn’t they said the same thing when PS3/Xbox were released?…

Your credibility going down the drain…

You forgot that these consoles will stay the same for more or less a decade (if the last generation is any indication) while the PC will continue to have new Motherboard, Graphic Cards, Hardware (Oculus Rift, anyone?)…

Name me an eSport game that is on Console… That’s what I though, they’re all PC (MOBA, StarCraft 2, etc…)… All keyboard/mouse games BTW…

Granted, the PC may change a lot during the lifetime of the new consoles (more laptops, less towers… Tablet/PC Hybrids… Linux being more popular than Windows… etc…) but it’s far from dead…
Its the only platform that can freely evolve over time in the market…

Ron Whitaker

On December 6, 2013 at 7:52 am

@Patches: While i think you’re right about the staying power of PC, I don’t think we’ll see tablets or laptops supplanting desktops, at least not for hardcore gamers. I also don’t see Linux overtaking Windows, simply because devs are loathe to embrace open-source platforms.

But you’re right on target about performance.

Patches

On December 6, 2013 at 9:56 am

@ Ron Whitaker

- Seen a gaming convention 10 years ago?… Everybody had a Tower…
Now seen a gaming convention lately?… Majority of players uses Laptops…

Also, my local PC retailer said that he’s selling more laptops for gamers than towers… Sheer power of laptops available now (I’m talking of 1200$+ laptops, not the cheaper ones) and the possibility to easily carry your rig anywhere are the main reasons…

- Tablets by themselves won’t supplant PC in the near future, but we’re starting to see some Tablet/PC ‘mutation’: PCs with touchscreen… Laptops that you can remove the ‘screen’ to uses as a Tablet, etc…
That’s the things we see now… Imagine in a decade from now…
Gamers will embrace the useful gimmicks, without leaving behind the basic things, like Keyboard/Mouse (Unless someone create a new revolutionary way of controller)…

- As for Linux, we shall see in the far future… Windows making blunders after blunders and Valve openly using Linux for his gaming gear may start a new turning point in the OS front: Like Win95 was dedicated for gamers and NT for office, we may see Windows for office and Linux for gamers…

I may be wrong, but I learned to not underestimate Valve… Remember Steam when it began, and look at it now, putting all other Origin, Uplay, Windows LIVE, etc. to shame…

Dan Miller

On December 6, 2013 at 1:15 pm

Remember Michael Pachter, the analyst who gave you the quote that you based your BF / Criterion story on? He thinks this is the last console cycle and that the PC will make a comeback.

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/12/06/michael-pachter-takes-shot-nintendo-president-satoru-iwata#.UqI-BcRQFzU

Ron Whitaker

On December 6, 2013 at 1:57 pm

@Patches: I’ve seen a ton of gaming conventions. Traveling gamers do in fact use laptops from time to time. Heck, I do too. But in my house, on my main machine where I do the vast majority of my gaming? It’s a tower. The majority of people? It’s a tower. Not so much because laptops lack in performance (although they certainly do), but more because towers offer so much more control. Want to easily swap out (or add) RAM, a video card, or any other component? It’s way easier on a tower.

Although laptops are way more powerful now, you still pay a hefty premium for that power, and it doesn’t approach what you can do with a similarly priced tower.

On Linux, I don’t underestimate Valve at all. I just don’t think you’re going to see a huge shift in the OS market in the next 5-10 years.

Huntsman06

On December 6, 2013 at 2:37 pm

“PC gaming is dead”

Don’t people keep saying similar comments as well ad saying that home video consoles are dead too? Or how DVDs are dead because we can just stream anything we want in blu-ray quality? Fact of the matter is that as long as somebody will keep buying it, somebody will keep making it. End of story. As for.

TeaBoneXL

On December 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Oh dear, well I`m a bit disappointed with that comment from this site. The pc is still strong there are more players on bf4 on the pc than any other platform any time of the day (even with all the errors). check out – http://bf4stats.com/

Patches

On December 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm

@ Ron Whitaker

Point is, contrary to the dimwit who just predict the death of it, the PC still has exciting years ahead…

Indeed, Linux will not massively replace Windows in the near future… Not until manufacturer stops putting Windows only on any newly build PCs and instead offer the clients the choice of which OS they want in it…

We will see a tendency in the not-so-far future though, I bet… Depends mainly on how SteamBox with Linux will do on the market and if and how Microsoft will recover from it’s Windows 8 blunder (from a gaming point of view)…

As for the Tower/Laptop argument…
A decade ago, you couldn’t dream of even play the latest FPS on a laptop because the machine as a whole couldn’t just handle it (Heat problems, only weak video cards could be installed, complete lack of possibility to upgrade components outside RAMs or HDs, etc…

Now, Gaming Laptops can play anything, if you’re willing to sacrifice a bit of Anti-Aliasing, Shadows, etc…
Games are still quite pretty and plays smoothly…

Granted, Towers will not die anytime soon, because you need them to fit in the newest, biggest, costliest new hardware that just went out of the research lab…
But you can’t argue that Laptops has became exponentially better that last decade. And there are no reasons that it won’t be as exponentially better this next decade…

With that in mind, you think people will prefer the bulkier Tower or the more portable Laptop?…
As for prices, compare a Tower and a Laptop with the same Specs and you’ll see the price difference between them are not that huge…

no

On December 6, 2013 at 6:11 pm

Well I’ve had enought of this site and its certain idiot writers. The site itself tries to do some things right and does, but some of the boneheads putting content onto it are overwhelming, well enjoy being dragged down the slope of ineptitude, so long.

John

On December 10, 2013 at 8:27 am

PC gaming is dead? Where have you been the last few years. Console software sales have been on decline for years, and while there will probably be an increase in sales due to the next gen release, industry analysts still expect mobile platforms to bleed the console market.

Steam, on the other hand, has been increasing sales by orders of magnitude every year. And it’s shocking to read a gaming journalist type the words “pc gaming is dead” when his contemporaries have been documenting the exact opposite for a few years now. Google ‘pc gaming rising sales’ and you’re bombarded with tons of articles from just about every imaginable gaming news site to Forbes and Wall Street Journal spanning the last 3 years.

Furthermore, with x86 architecture and AMD’s mantle api providing the foundation for both new consoles, it’s going to be extremely easy to develop for consoles and PC simultaneously. AMD exec Marc Diana gave an interview where he said that they need to come up with a new word for porting, because it’s no longer how games are being developed. Games are now being developed on a baseline x86 pc platform, then branched and debugged for individual platforms. Perhaps you weren’t invited to e3 this year, so you may not have noticed that a majority of demos, and almost every early development demo, was running on a pc.

I’m not trying to knock consoles, I’ve owned every widely adopted console in the US market since NES. I plan on getting a PS4 after Xmas is done devouring production. However, nowadays I almost exclusively buy for the PC. The days of awful PC ports are behind us and many devs are going out of their way to offer PC gamers an experience that justifies their hardware. PC versions of games like Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3 and Bioshock Infinite are astonishing when compared to their console counterparts. Even Battlefield 4′s PC version makes their next gen console versions look antiquated.

This isn’t antidotal fanboyism, it’s statistically quantifiable fact. PC game sales have been rapidly increasing. Devs are actively pouring more and more resources into supporting the platform. Hardware manufacturers are building for the platform (nvidia shield, steam box & steam os, razer edge, occulus rift… Hell, even Sony made the dual shock 4 xinput compatible to capitalize on the growing market). To top it all off, the pc enthusiast and gaming laptop markets are holding steady while the rest of the pc market is getting handedly slaughtered by tablets.

If you honestly believe pc gaming is dead, you need to drop your anchor back in reality. PC gaming is alive and well and by all accounts it will continue it’s upward trajectory until cloud gaming reaches maturity.

Ron Whitaker

On December 10, 2013 at 10:27 am

@John: While I happen to agree with your optimism on PC gaming, history suggests something different. Each console cycle in the past has started out with consoles gaining market share and PC gaming sliding back. About halfway through the life of the console, PC gaming begins to rise as console slips, and then they switch again with new consoles. Personally, I think this new generation of consoles is where this trend will change.

There’s no arguing that PC gaming has been growing, but I can certainly understand why folks might be a bit skeptical of it continuing in the face of a new console gen. History might be on their side, but this new generation has been anything but historical so far.

Roy Batty

On December 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm

@Ron

I am not sure you can compare the old cycle to the new one. There are a number of things causing havoc with the technology cycles not the least of which is the fact that “mid level” hardware is good enough to play some demanding games at higher resolutions.

In other words the PC industry his effetely killed itself. Or more correctly killed the old cycle and replaced it with a new [unknown] one.

Before the core I series (i5 and up) I recall building a new rig ever 3 years or so. Even with maxed out hardware I still needed a refresh after 3 years. The new stretch for refresh is unknown (as long as 5 years) since the hardware is so good. Then there is still the lag between God’s own hardware and the developers figuring out how to stretch it to the max (which has yet to happen).

This is happening in my day-to-day job as well – everyone says the same thing the PC is dead but it isn’t. Look at it from this point of view. It is PC gaming that drives Nvidia and AMD to new heights (i.e. without PC gaming console gaming would not be as demanding as it is).

A few yeas ago as you mentioned PC gaming seemed to be dying while consoles were enjoying a host of decent titles…that was the problem at the time; there were a bunch of crap titles that no one was really interested in (most of them were crappy ports).

Put it this way…PC gaming is the R&D department for console gaming.

P.S. I fully understand that most people do not want to sit there and build their own PC rigs, this is what the console really does…takes the guessing out of game – you don’t have to be a geek to play (remember having to customize config.sys and autoexec.bat for each game in DOS?…ah those were the days!).

interestingly enough this is also what people are saying about PC in general (it is dead) because of mobile/centralized computing. I say… and the Zen Master said “we’ll see”

Ron Whitaker

On December 11, 2013 at 5:27 am

@Roy – I’m with you on this one. The rapid advancement of PC hardware has slowed dramatically in the last few years. I think there are a couple of reasons for that. First, we’re plateauing a bit in what the hardware can do. Second, there’s less demand for more powerful gaming hardware because games aren’t pushing what we have now to the limit. Hopefully now that we’ve refreshed console hardware, we’ll see that cycle step back up again.

As to building your own rig, we’ve reached the point where there are so many options for getting a gaming PC that anyone who doesn’t like rig building can still get a sweet PC, and the price markup isn’t much at all. Custom system builders with incredible service and warranties are everywhere, and you only play a premium of a couple hundred bucks.

Honestly, I think this is a great time to be a PC gamer.