Destiny Not For PC ‘Cause No One Plays With Mouse and Keyboard

Bungie has not announced any plans for a PC version of Destiny, which has been confirmed for both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, with possible next-gen platform releases in tow. Given the prominence of online games—and especially shooters—on the Windows PC, one would assume that Activision and Bungie would have taken the platform under serious consideration.

Speaking to Destructoid, the studio’s co-founder Jason Jones reasoned that the PC would not be a suitable platform for the first person shooter simply because nobody plays shooters with a mouse and keyboard.

He reasoned that gamers no longer played shooters with a mouse and keyboard due to the infectious popularity of Halo.

“We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo deliberately to reach out to people. We limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game – almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time,” he said.

“We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo ’cause nobody wants to.”

Really.

There’s a chance that Jason Jones has been entirely out of touch with the PC gaming world ever since shifting his studio’s focus towards the development of console games, but I’m not counting on that being the case.

More than likely, Jones is probably too proud of his work with Halo to admit that gamers still enjoy the mouse and keyboard as their weapons of choice—that, and he can’t really come out and say that Activision-Blizzard doesn’t want to release the game on the PC because of purely business reasons.

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50 Comments on Destiny Not For PC ‘Cause No One Plays With Mouse and Keyboard

goose2989

On February 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm

He probably can’t just say that Bungie and Activision didn’t want to release the game on the PC, just because. But saying it the way he did just makes him seem like an extremely self-absorbed elitist who’s out of touch with reality. Even in his statement, he had to stroke his own ego by implying that Halo is the sole reason that console shooters rose to prominence. Jason seems to be suffering from a horrible case of SARS syndrome (the KFAN kind of SARS).

Allan

On February 17, 2013 at 3:15 pm

I doubt no one wants you’re mickey mouse game on the pc platform anyways. Keep it. And btw, Mouse and keyboard is still pretty prominent within the gaming world.

SupremeAllah

On February 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Maybe he’s butthurt because the first and only Halo released on PC didn’t do as good (likely because while Halo was the best X box shooter for that time, PC always had better shooters)

But if this guy really thinks people prefer the clumbsy and less accurate dual stick setup to a mouse and keyboard, then he’s not only out of touch with the gaming world, but reality itself.

monotoy

On February 17, 2013 at 3:36 pm

pity that Bungie doesn’t remember that they once upon a time made of the best trilogies ever (Marathon).

Ian Miles Cheong

On February 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm

http://i.imgur.com/ZeU1QH6.png

JC

On February 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm

This is either the most extreme case of cognitive dissonance I’ve ever heard of or this guy is spewing out complete nonsense deliberately. Though I don’t know for certain which and don’t care enough about him, Bungie or Halo to spend time thinking which it may be.

Also “We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo,,,limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game – almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time”

They weren’t the first with any of those things so it’s not ambitious and sure as hell not “heretical”. I guess extreme cognitive dissonance it is.

a-brooding-mage

On February 17, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Where is this guy getting his information? Sweeping generalizations are bad as it is, but if you want to make one, at least back it up with some evidence.

And recharging health…If I remember correctly Halo: CE had health packs. So, nothing ambitious there.

Luther

On February 17, 2013 at 5:43 pm

@JC I only remember halo doing those things first but if you can remind me of what game or games did it before halo i would love to hear it.

Underlaw

On February 17, 2013 at 5:45 pm

Thats why the game industry is falling apart. Retards everywhere. Mouse and keyboard, is ultra mega faster than any controler, shooters is very very very more faster with mouse.

Ali

On February 17, 2013 at 5:54 pm

Who’s bungie?

Mike

On February 17, 2013 at 7:05 pm

I found his statement hilarious since all I see on gaming forums are mouse and keyboard elitists badmouthing the gamepad. Nice to see an opposing opinion for once.

Felix Threepaper

On February 17, 2013 at 7:12 pm

I’m not sure the quote means what you think it means. “Nobody plays shooters they way they used to …” could equally apply to the other features he mentioned: regen health, checkpointing and 2-gun limit. In which case, it’s a pretty non-controversial point.

But go ahead, get all outraged about PCs vs consoles. It is the internet, after all.

nothingbutcrap

On February 17, 2013 at 7:25 pm

If I remember correctly,the original Half Life had recharging health long before Halo.

max

On February 17, 2013 at 7:44 pm

what a lame excuse for not making the game for CPU, im a mouse n keyboard players but, some games are meant for controllers, that why i keep one on my computer… so cut the crap and take the game out for CPU, just admit u can t support High End Graphics.

o0OD

On February 17, 2013 at 8:28 pm

What the F***?! This is the most ridiculous thing ever… People like this shouldn’t be working in the gaming industry.

R.J.

On February 17, 2013 at 9:49 pm

Now I’m thinking of the Odyssey. That Cyclops looked pretty foolish when he said that “nobody” poked his eye out.

sep

On February 17, 2013 at 10:27 pm

Call me what you want, but NOTHING will force me to play on anything other than a mouse and keyboard. NOTHING. Period. Screw consoles.

Perhaps when the Occulus Rift or whatever is released and eventually becomes affordable enough.

Noelemahc

On February 17, 2013 at 11:49 pm

And that, children, is why the Halo series sold badly in their PC versions. Because nobody wanted to play them with mouse and keyboard. Not because they were badly ported, badly marketed, badly supported, and released with hideously absurd delays that left them far behind the technology curve. But because of those blasted mouses. Meeces even. Suuuure.

gasmaskangel

On February 17, 2013 at 11:51 pm

That has to be one of the dumbest pieces of reasoning I’ve ever heard in my life.

I hate playing first person shooters on a console precisely because I hate using game pad controls for aiming. I need the precision I can get from a mouse thankyou very much.

Axetwin

On February 18, 2013 at 12:18 am

I just want to go ahead and add that the “save and restoring” in Halo was AWFUL! I cant tell you the number of times the game decided the perfect moment to save was when I either got tagged by a plasma grenade, or a split second before I took a direct hit from a Wraith cannon. Or better yet, get all the way through a level, die at the very end only to discover the game didnt save once and I had to replay the entire level all over again.

FM

On February 18, 2013 at 2:12 am

When i saw the trailer for this game i noticed something that really made me think, the publisher, Activision. Does ActivisionBlizzard really want a 10 year MMO project running on PC, hell no!, steal subscriptions from still running WoW, or probably compete with Titan project from Blizzard (that from leaks seems to be a futuristic setting), not!. So i guess this is just bull%&$t of a excuse.

Mark

On February 18, 2013 at 2:26 am

That just sounds like some talking who doesnt play games there just in it cuse they got all the money

Hans Cummings

On February 18, 2013 at 3:49 am

Gee, I didn’t realize a keyboard and a mouse was what I wasn’t using to play FPSs. I’ve been calling that thing I type on and the thing I move the pointer around with by the wrong name all these years. Thanks Bungie!

Now, since I play games on my PC, FPSs in particular, perhaps Jones could tell me exactly what I should call my input devices of choice? Buttoned Hand Puck and Clacky Rectangle perhaps?

Lusii

On February 18, 2013 at 3:54 am

Common! really!
No one plays with mouse and keyboard anymore? and don’t want to? In shooters?
Two facts about gaming:
-Shooters play way better with a mouse and keyboard, its how its supposed to be! (RTSs also)
-Fighting games are played way better with a controller than a keyboard or mouse! and that is how its supposed to be! (The rest depends on how you like it and what do you own)

Of course people who own a console are going to play with a controller! its obvious! they get used to it…but that doesn’t mean its better with a controller!

What he said is just plain stupid! and “out of touch with reality”, just like stated before.
I’m a Pc player by the way :P

Robert

On February 18, 2013 at 4:37 am

What’s funny about what was said by Jones is: I never played Halo games BECAUSE I play with a mouse and keyboard. Unfortunately, that also means I won’t be playing Destiny, which not only sucks for me, but I’m thinking for them, too.

Rob

On February 18, 2013 at 4:42 am

“I found his statement hilarious since all I see on gaming forums are mouse and keyboard elitists badmouthing the gamepad. Nice to see an opposing opinion for once.” –Mike

Even when this “opinion” is completely false? What, you just like to see it because not too many people of intelligence find this makes any sense? That actually speaks volumes about you.

Really, all it is is him spewing a falsehood to make himself feel better about his own game, as if it’s something new. He didn’t change anything. What an arrogant buffoon.

Ingeborg

On February 18, 2013 at 4:58 am

Way to self-confirm, guys. I play with mouse and keyboard all the time.

Alfred

On February 18, 2013 at 5:27 am

I buy all my “shooters” on PC! Never on Xbox or PS3.

quicktooth

On February 18, 2013 at 6:59 am

Aha. Ahahahaha. Good thing you think that way Bungie- it spares me the need to buy your game XD

rickshaw

On February 18, 2013 at 7:09 am

Jason Jones = complete plonker!
he has no idea because he just person who wants to use a console

Freedonad

On February 18, 2013 at 7:47 am

“He reasoned that gamers no longer played shooters with a mouse and keyboard due to the infectious popularity of Halo.”

Infectious is a curious choice of words. I guess I got my anti-halo shot somewhere in the past, because when I tried to get into Halo 3 after years of PC Gaming, I just dropped the controller and turned the X360 off after 5 minutes in. Too f*cking unwieldly!

Maybe Halo 3 wasn’t the best entry into the series I could’ve chosen, as I’ve played other FPS on X360 that actually handled better (though far from a KB/M set by a mile)…

Loveless

On February 18, 2013 at 9:35 am

I read this quote and came away with it not that he was commenting on people don’t play with a mouse and keyboard but that he was talking about shooters in general being different after Halo. The regenerating health, auto saves, the general lack of difficulty. Now as for the keyboard thing I do think there is a casual push to go the controller rout, just look @ steam and the Big Picture format, completely centered around a controller and hooked up in the living room like a console. I fortunately have a fantastic gaming PC and all the consoles and have to admit some games I will opt for the console version because I prefer the comfort of a controller and like having my PC hooked up to my 62″ TV. I know a lot of the PC diehards are getting upset by what they see as a slight to their beloved platform but if you want PC gaming to continue to grow it has to adapt to the casual audience as well. People bought the Wii because even someone like my mother who hasn’t ever picked up a controller were able to pick it up and have immediate fun. The same will go for console kids switching to PC if it is more familiar and comfortable to them. I really don’t think he was intending to imply that absolutely no one plays with a mouse and keyboard anymore, more the fact that games and people have changed since the time where the only good shooters were PC exclusive. There were occasional good shooters on console pre Halo like Goldeneye on the N64 but they really were few and far between. I know this is the internet so the knee jerk reaction is always the first but if you look at the whole comment and not just part of it I think you might see the point he was making. BTW I am not a Halo fan, I miss the days of trying to beat a game like Half-Life and scrounging for health packs/stations to get by an area. I think the Halo model killed the genre and paved the way for the lackluster market we have today with the COD style shooters. This is just my opinion but hey that’s what the Internet is for.

TheDog

On February 18, 2013 at 10:19 am

Face it. Jones is a crack head who makes games for kids. He also VERY stupid ( we’re talking mentally f—-ked up). Anyone who would make a statement, sooooooo incredibly inaccurate, is just mental. He probably doesn’t even play games. He’s a joke, a freakin loser. Let him make his kids games. I’ve never even wanted to play a Halo game.
I’ld say lobotomy is the only help for him, but honestly, it sounds like he’s already been lobotomized.

Zach

On February 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm

Wow. . . . is it really that easy to bait the “PC Elite” into foaming at the mouth?

You folks realize that Consoles and PC both have there advantages and you can, in fact, enjoy playing on both?

Jeez I’m tired of watching people who claim to be superior in every way compared to the “console kiddies” act like the one kid in the school-yard who didn’t get invited to a party of someone they don’t even like.

JUST EVERYONE SHUT THE HALO UP AND PLAY GAMES!!

Ares

On February 18, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Funny, I use mouse and keyboard for every game I play. I cannot stand console controllers. Especially in a FPS environment.

Tiagonal

On February 18, 2013 at 5:39 pm

WHa?!! You all still use a keyboard? THe… Fu… I’m using an Epoc Neuroheadset to map my thoughts to keystrokes and move my head to target, the thing has been available since ages! Gotta concentrate harder tho’, I’m still playing like a monkey.

Derek

On February 18, 2013 at 5:43 pm

These guys don’t even pay attention to their own game communities. Halo 1 and 2 were very popular on PC specifically because of the mouse & keyboard option.

I’ve been playing Windows first person shooters online for Windows for 17 years, and so do all my friends. The only excuse any of them give me for sometimes playing shooters on their consoles is because they want to play with those who don’t have an FPS gaming capable computer. All it takes is one demonstration of PC only games at max settings/2560×1440 like Natural-Selection 2, Planetside 2, or Hawken to sway peeps toward buying a gaming PC. Not to mention all those cross platform shooters that are infinitely superior on the PC platform (all of which can be played with gamepads too!)

JC

On February 18, 2013 at 6:44 pm

@Luther, Rainbow 6 limited the player to 2 weapons in back in 1998 and probably wasn’t the first. For checkpoints/autosave there’s Half Life also in 1998, again doubt it was the first, these are just ones that come to mind that I specifically remember along with their names.

It’s worth noting I’m limiting examples to FPS games I can remember the names of, not limiting it to that there are even older games I can remember that did those things.

As for life regen, that’s as old as the hills, I don’t remember the names but quick searching will show references to Halo not only not being first but Halo 1 didn’t have regenerating health, only the shields recharged. So him saying “recharging health” in reference to them basically doing it first is not only false but also incorrect in regards to his own game. Brings me back to his selective and self reaffirming memory.

So there those things are, at least 3-4 years before Bungie supposedly revolutionised everything by using them, excuse me, creating them.

Bill Gates

On February 18, 2013 at 11:44 pm

Hey Jason, can you please find another better excuse for not release it on PC? Because “No One Plays With Mouse and Keyboard” is too lame, have you ever heard of Marathon?

Dad

On February 19, 2013 at 2:21 am

So this guy thinks that because he fed starving children in Africa with his McDonalds and introduced them to crappy burgers, he reinvented FPS games?

People do not play FPS games with mouse and keyboard because people like him have dumbed down an entire gaming generation to the point they don’t even know how handicapped they are using controllers for FPS games, prove me wrong and make merged servers for both controller and mkb users, so you can see all the console kiddies drop your crappy game faster than you can wonder wtf is going on.

The nerve of some clowns and people wonder why gaming is in such horrible condition.

Danjal

On February 19, 2013 at 1:33 pm

I would’ve loved to play the HALO games on PC with mouse and keyboard, a shame that they never bothered to release half of the games. And the ones that did release were done so way after launch and even then only a bad port (even had the controller picture in the key configs screen)

So i’m quite curious what this statement of people not playing the game with mouse keyboard signifies other then the fact that they prefer to cut down on the budget by simply not spending money on additional hardware support.

BULLSHIT

On February 21, 2013 at 2:48 pm

THIS IS ABSOLUTE BULL SONS OF ES

xX[360]NoScOpeZXx

On February 21, 2013 at 2:52 pm

dats tru pc gaming suckz u cant even ctrol anyting wif the crppy mouse and keiboard
also the best competivve matches r pleyd on consols so suck on dat pc users
pc has no future bungie is right becuz average console pleyer will pwn any pc pro so suck on dat pc users ur console sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jothron

On June 16, 2013 at 3:40 am

You know what I think Sony and Microsoft should do? Have mouse and keyboard as optional inputs for gaming! I know you can use a keyboard for typing things already but as an alternative control option would be awesome.

Name*

On June 16, 2013 at 10:27 am

Haha…what a douche. I only ever played Halo one and 2 with a m/kb. Would never have touched them otherwise. Shame there were dozens of better shooters by the time the got their head out of their ass long enough to port them.

BigDaveP

On August 20, 2013 at 9:53 am

Thank you GameFront and Jason Jones, I’ve not laughed at something so much in ages :)

kenneth

On June 13, 2014 at 3:09 am

Really, this statement makes a complete new type off idiot .. Evryone should boicot this game in disgust.
“Destiny Not For PC ‘Cause No One Plays With Mouse and Keyboard”. I’m like comeon be honest about why you do stuff, don’t make up excuses that are completely false to justify youre unwillingness to do somthing. Noone belives you. But who knows perhaps he is that stupid….. Though, I think not.

weeby

On June 23, 2014 at 1:58 am

I’ll let ya keep thinking that, just because the game sounds incredibly stupid!

Halo in mmo form from a company with ZERO MMO experience. Should be pretty interested to watch this fail!

Vero

On July 19, 2014 at 10:35 am

so i guess with this statement it means the game won’t have mouse and keyboard support.. damn pity really because a mouse is like 100times more accurate then a controller anyday.. only reason a controller would be more accurate is because of the aim assist you see in most console shooters

Jake

On July 24, 2014 at 3:27 am

It’s been proven that controllers are better then a mouse and keyboard… there’s even videos of professional gamers using a controller and the other using a mouse and the guy using the mouse gets destroyed every time, pc gaming is for the no life stereotypical mom’s basement guys… it and yall are a joke, welcome to next gen