Ex-Blizzard Employee Divorces Husband Over WoW

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A California resident who once worked briefly for Blizzard has recently divorced her husband of six years because according to her, his addiction to World of Warcraft ruined their marriage. Never having played the game herself, 28 year-old Jocelyn stated that her husband Peter’s crippling addiction to the game became more than she could handle.

“He would get home from work at 6:00, start playing at 6:30, and he’d play until three a.m. Weekends were worse — it was from morning straight through until the middle of the night. It took away all of our time that we spent together. I ceased to exist in his life.”

Having been friends with Peter since the age of 13 and married for six years, it only took a paltry nine months for the marriage to collapse after receiving the game as a gift from her.

“I bought the game for him for Christmas 2004, when it first came out. By May we had our first serious discussion about where our marriage was going, and by September I had moved out.”

Having had many discussions on the fact that WoW had taken over Peter’s life, Jocelyn tried to intervene and schedule “together” time with him – to no avail. On one such occasion, she had set aside 30 minutes to watch a favorite TV show together, but he refused because he was in the middle of a raid and could not understand why she was upset that he stood her up. Eventually, Peter’s domestic duties also began to suffer for the game as he stopped paying bills and refused to do his share of the housework.

Although a gamer herself Jocelyn has never played WoW because she recognized the fact that it was a game that would never end and therefore did not wish to play it. She also states that WoW was the sole catalyst for the divorce and is still highly emotional about its impact on her marriage.

“I’m real, and you’re giving me up for a fantasy land. You’re destroying your life, your six-year marriage, and you’re giving it up for something that isn’t even real. [Blizzard] build it in such a way that you have to keep putting more and more time into it to maintain your status. I remember thinking when I was married that it was downright exploitative to people who couldn’t control themselves in that way. It’s set up like a drug.”

Because of the emotional scars of the divorce and the reasons surrounding it, Jocelyn has stated that next time around, she will stay clear of gamers.

While this is indeed sad news for her and her ex-husband you cannot put the blame solely on WoW. Granted, it has proven to be a highly addictive game for some people, but you have to consider their personality and their choices. Someone like Peter more than likely has a mental issue and has a problem with addiction. Who is to say that he does not have some other forms of addiction as well? His addiction could as easily have been pot, liquor, porn or meth – if she were to have brought them into the house it would have been a different addiction instead of gaming. You have to go to the underlying source and peel back the layers. Was he unhappy in his marriage to begin with? Was he miserable at his job? Was he highly depressed? Was this form of escape a way to keep from coping with the living hell that his life had become? All of these plus family history can become contributing factors to any sort of addiction.

During her interview with Yahoo! Games, Joycelyn never stated or hinted around about counseling. Did the two of them ever discuss the possibility of therapy? Did she ever consider canceling their internet service, his Blizzard account and throwing his WoW disc in the trash? No one knows the full story of why their marriage collapsed or if anything was done to try and salvage it other than “together time” to watch TV. We may never know, but while this news is indeed sad for the both of them, I mostly feel sorry for Peter because he needs help before his life becomes a vicious cycle of self-loathing and addiction to something worse than a video game. Blaming it all on WoW is just ignorance.

Source: Yahoo! Games

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176 Comments on Ex-Blizzard Employee Divorces Husband Over WoW


On February 16, 2008 at 2:07 pm




On February 16, 2008 at 2:42 pm

notice the well-placed bottle of lotion by the computer in the picture… :mrgreen:


On February 16, 2008 at 2:44 pm

This is a real tragedy. I can’t really blame her for hating WoW, because it must’ve been an emotionally charged situation, and I wouldn’t expect her to seperate her emotions from the situation to look at the real reason behind their unfortunate divorce. I don’t like that she’s decided to stay away from gamers though. I mean, for everyone who’s addicted to WoW, there are millions more who enjoy it in a healthy way. She might as well say she’ll stay away from people who drink, because the ratio of healthy drinkers to alcoholics is a lot worse than for video games.


On February 16, 2008 at 2:49 pm

like my dad allways told me, get skills or die trying… but anyways, damn those PVEers ruining the life of other people, go arena


On February 16, 2008 at 3:01 pm

She said the sole reason for the divorce was WoW. Considering she wasn’t the one with the addiction and thus can be taken to be more rational, I’m inclined to believe her word on that (not to mention the expertise from knowing the intention of the game, per se). She did everything right. She must really be kicking herself though for getting the game for him.


On February 16, 2008 at 3:17 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHHA GOOD CHOICE MATE!! “TOGETHER TIME?!” ugh she sounds like a pain..


On February 16, 2008 at 3:29 pm

I’m a gamer (obviously, or why else would I be here). However, I dislike how the author of the story tries to protect or side with the game and/or addict. It seems as if they may be an addict too.. trying to cover their own behind. That said, I’ll never understand how anyone can get so completely absorbed into a game that they’d lose track of everything around them for so long. Especially a game like WoW.. when playing, you can see the game engine underneath.. its not even realistic.. not even close. Wouldn’t it be better to ‘level up’ your own actual life and get out of the bad job or if he was unhappy with the marriage (examples by the author of the story) initiate some dialog with his wife.. perhaps HE could have suggested counseling if this was the problem.. its not the wife’s fault the guy is an addict to a game and, as a result, she really shouldn’t have to suffer. What a tragedy. Wake up people.. its a game.


On February 16, 2008 at 7:24 pm

This is why I tell ppl not too play WoW, its addicting, anyone I know who has played it, hasnt stopped.

Though she must really fell bad for getting him he game in the first place, she knew how addictive it was, and yet she gave it to him anyways, I say it’s partly her fault….

It’s a shame


On February 16, 2008 at 7:50 pm

wow just one more thing to prove how bad WoW is for people. terrible game by a terrible company set up to suck the life and money out of you. to me, WoW is like drugs, never touch it, never go near it, always hate it, never even want to think about it. such a horrible company, blizzard…i stick to my FPS’s and i actually have a life outside of the computer..this guy (and the author) is such a waste of air..the author is an addict too, you can tell by the way he defends this lowlife wow loser with nothing but fairy-tale rpg games in his life.


On February 16, 2008 at 8:20 pm

WoW is not evil it’s just how much time you spend on it, however I do notice that people who play WoW tend to play more than a few hours a day. Everytime I go to my friends house he’s on his comp playing WoW next to about 10 soda cans.


On February 16, 2008 at 9:41 pm

Sadly, this only strengthens my decision to never start playing WoW. I feel very sorry for the wife of whomever this WoW addict is. I’ve met up with a lot of my gamer friends (usually just once a year or something) and a few of them have bailed out on the group because they were either raiding or doing some sort of WoW activity that apparently COULD NOT be moved to a different time.

I do kind of agree with the author as the wife did not mention anything about therapy but… That doesn’t give the husband the right to forget about his duties to his wife. Especially when it comes to paying bills! He seems to get the WoW account paid, why can’t he keep the necessities of living paid? He can’t play WoW if he’s dead after all (or don’t have electricity/internet).

Everyone has it tough, just because you’re depressed/hating work doesn’t mean you have the right to hide from everything. Depression is a problem not an excuse and WoW does not help at all.


On February 16, 2008 at 11:48 pm

@ D

Actually, being that I work for a gaming site you would surprised to know that I play,on the average, less than 10 hours per week. Some weeks, I do not even touch a game. I personally do not have an addiction to any sort of entertainment nor do I have any other sort of addictions. I never stated that I sided with him completely, and I also stated that we – the readers – do not know the full story. I only mentioned counseling and her lack of mentioning it in the interview and how it honestly may have helped. When you have someone who is addicted to something, it is the person who is in their right mind who has to step in and take charge of the situation – because the one that is ADDICTED is NOT in their right mind. Have you ever watched Intervention on A&E? Not that I recommend it, but it should give you an idea of what is and isn’t going through an addict’s mind – and I can tell you one thing – it is not getting help.


On February 17, 2008 at 4:26 am

I don’t think WoW is the main problem here. All these cases ARE due to addictions of sorts. Heck, my friends have just pushed me into getting the trial and I was even wary about that (!) but I know what I need to do to stop my self getting addicted to it. Besides, I have TF2, a 360 and a Wii that are also joustling for my time, so playing soley WoW would not prove to be efficient.


On February 17, 2008 at 8:45 am

Friends since 13, shes 28, been married for 6 years….. nobody considered the fact he wasn’t addicted they just ran out of intresting things to do? 15 years of knowing someone and minimum 6 years living together is a long time, WoW might just as easily been an escape from the monotony of a relationship that was getting stale.

I’ve been with my partner for 5 years and there are times when I like to do things on my own to, its called having space.

People get divorced all the time, its only news because its game related. People get divorced over pets, belongings, bills, holidays, affairs you name it suddenly someone wants to play a computer game and they are addicted. The difference between wanting to do something and addiction is that you don’t want to do it but you can’t stop yourself….wheres the evidence he wanted to stop?

MMO Social interaction is a far more powerfull draw due to peer pressures and the ability to allow your imagination to suspend the stresses of real life (albeit replace them with in game stresses). The concept of someone locked away in a room having “no life” is subjective, you can have hundreds of friends online why is that something to be negative about while going down to a local bar or club and pissing away money on alcohol vomitting all over the sidewalk and sleeping with random strangers is considered “having a life” ?


On February 17, 2008 at 10:40 am

I like the way the author says “throwing his WoW disc in the trash” … lol … once installed there is no need for the disc. OMG !!! People if you are writing a piece about a game that you don’t even play … don’t write it.

And by the way the guy is a jerk and the girl has a low selfesteem, beaten by a GAME !!!


On February 17, 2008 at 10:47 am

I quit WoW in November because my Black-Temple-Raiding guild was becoming too much for me to handle. It was like having a part-time job that I wasn’t getting paid for. The people I met on there I miss sometimes, but I feel very free now that I don’t play anymore. I have time to just sit around.
It’s very sad that he let this happen to their marriage. She let it go too far. I agree with the author – she should have canceled their Internet and forced a confrontation in the beginning.


On February 17, 2008 at 10:54 am

Whats the point of trying so hard to get to the top if you will die and be forgotten almost straight away? Whats at the top thats so good anyway? I see this as a reaction to the disposable, consumeristic lifestyle we have created for ourselves. Maybe its understandable that some people would want to permanently escape this reality?

He who dies with the most toys was hollow and without meaning.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:10 am

My college roommate, who has never had an addiction problem to anything, played WoW to the point where he missed 2 finals in the same quarter. He’s now on academic probation and will probably drop out. I tried to talk him out of it but, convincing him against WoW is like convincing someone against a religion. You just can’t because the logic used to defend it is illogical.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:11 am

If you play WoW so much that it ruins your marriage you’ve got a problem, and no amount of excuses will ever make that go away. It could probably have been handled in some other way, but what’s happened’s happened.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:14 am

Raiding in wow is where most/all of the “addict storys” come from..

if u have enough RL/close friends outside of your guild and don’t focus your self worth entirely on your in game Status you should be fine..

Mind you being 19 when i play wow i tend to do the above.. but if u focus on the people your talking to over vent rather than the games status u realize your self worth is more than just the game.

wow is a incredibly powerful game for both good and bad. However if blizzard made a new scaling method / (put in some way that playing is not alway benifical/ no more grinding etc)…. i think it could then be just a simply Powerfully good game..

To say u have to have some medical condition to be sucked into WoW as a addict is a lie.. Lots of healthy people do.. and its not ALWAYs Unhealthy in the end.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:17 am

I’d have to agree with her. Ive seen that game ruins tons of relationships, costs many people their jobs, and just outright ruin lives. Its addicting and its badly addicting. People who are lvl 70 with epic mounts have serious issues. You simply cannot get those items if you play casually. Dont even try to explain that you can because it CAN’T be done. Do i think they should get rid of the game? No but i do think that something needs to be setup to help people who have issues or Blizzard should be forced to place a timer on an account that when applied stops that account from playing after say 6 hours on the weekends and 2 hours on weekdays. This would stop alot of it sure people could have multiple accounts but they are going to get sick of bouncing from account to account on lowbies during the week.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:24 am

if he wouldn’t watch a 30 minute tv show, there is no chance he would have invested the time in counseling.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:26 am

Stop being defensive because it’s a video game – and you like video games.

She has every right to be upset about the game, even JEALOUS, because he chose the game over her. It’s the same as if it was another woman, except more confusing because it’s only a game.
She probably told him she was going to leave him if he didn’t stop playing, and he didn’t care enough to stop playing. The game was indeed a major factor. What broke up the marriage was the husbands choices regarding the game – it is in essence, his ‘fault’ and not the games, but the game is still a factor.

Quit being defensive about it.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:36 am

This woman, pardon my french is a ing idiot.
all she had to do was demand his account password, and secret question answer and Ta-da she can setup parental controls that make it so a customer is only allowed to play for an alloted time. Every MMO has it; I play wow myself and luckily I do not fall victim to this (much to busy with real life) but people who fall into this are usually highly depressed and are seeking escape. In my opinion this just took the easy way out because she wanted out of the marriage. Maybe to some wanker out there who is everything her husband was not. All in all it was her own fault and she should have established parental controls early on.


On February 17, 2008 at 11:37 am

WoW might be up there, but once you’ve chased the high that is Everquest, it’s luring addiction is paltry in comparison.

I also had a marriage that fell apart to the time I spent in an online game — Everquest. But there were already huge underlying issues. I think the truth of this situation is he was probably using the game to get away from pressures at work, or perhaps he was fighting with his wife.

I guess she signed up for ‘better’ and not ‘worse’. That’s the unfortunate reality of a lot of marriages these days. When the tough get going, the spouse gets going too.

Free iPod Games

On February 17, 2008 at 12:06 pm

I’ve got a couple buddies that lost their girlfriends over WoW….that game is more addicting than crack.


On February 17, 2008 at 12:13 pm

If you have to establish “parental controls” for your wife/husband, get out of that relationship. This person doesn’t qualify for “recovering” addict, he’s just an oblivious addict who’s lost all respect for his wife and himself. You can try to improve the situation, then as a last result, stage an intervention, which the woman did. If the person still continues on like a vegetable, it’s hopeless. Get out as fast as you can.


On February 17, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Yeah, spending too much time on a computer is bad…but 30+ hours of TV a week, plus movies is ok. What does it say that he prefered the game to her. Why did he need such escapism in his life? Maybe it stunk and getting rig of her was a bonus.


On February 17, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Why is serious investment in this game always considered a harmful addiction? It’s like any other hobby — people devote varying amounts of time to it. Isn’t playing in an amateur sports league very similar to being in a raiding guild? I think if it’s rewarding a person he should do what he likes.


On February 17, 2008 at 12:26 pm

I play wow… I was addicted through High School. I was on the varsity ice hockey team, as well as playing for a pro roller hockey team. Slowly and slowly it was creeping in on my other time, because as was stated in the article, it is built so that the best of the best need to spend more and more time in order to play. Slowly and slowly it crept into my life until I pretty much stopped doing everything and was raiding day in and day out… Why? Because that’s what was required. I stopped playing and told myself I wouldn’t go back. I got into a difficult medical program, I picked up a girlfriend, and was generally very happy. I just renewed for a month, and already it’s creeping into my life once again. It sucks, but that’s how the game is meant to be played. In order to be the best you have to put in ridiculous amounts of time. I think I’m just not going to renew this month, but who knows…


On February 17, 2008 at 12:41 pm

Thats why I run a bot. Perhaps she could have introduced him to MMOGlider (formerly WoW Glider). http://www.mmoglider.com

It will get you your life back.


On February 17, 2008 at 12:47 pm

and we all found this article on the internet and expect that it’s going to be looked at objectively. interesting….


On February 17, 2008 at 1:03 pm

The addictive aspect of WoW is it’s social network. A huge portion of warcraft is making friends. Groups work in a systematic way. Your raid consist of up to 24 other people who know you, joke with you etc, and depend on you. This makes it very easy to associate to “real life”. Therefore when someone says they cannot get off the computer because they’re in a “raid”, they’re addiction is reinforced by both social interaction and character gain.
I play wow. I usually play 4 hours a night, depending on my surroundings, the gym, and my girlfriend; and honestly, if my girlfriend wants to be with me, the game gets turned off. NO artificial reality compares to that of a dissatisfied, angry woman (not to mention the sexual aspect of a real human girl). I think the guy lost interest in his wife. The game became more stimulating. Simple as that.


On February 17, 2008 at 1:13 pm

It’s not WoW’s fault. She’s going to have to come to the realization that she married a douche bag. Anybody (over 21, or isn’t being paid to) who spends more time gaming (especially one particular game) than working, learning, or otherwise living their life is a douche bag. Saying that it’s WoW’s fault is like saying that it was the cars fault when you ran a red light.


On February 17, 2008 at 1:25 pm

How I cured my Everquest addiction: I learned to cheat! I found that I enjoyed writing scripts to play the game automatically more than I did actually playing the game myself. My wife thinks I am nuts paying to play a game I don’t actually plan but she loves the fact that I have way more time to be with her. I get more work done. I go on long drives and hikes. I can read or watch movies. All the time my characters are killing mobs and getting experience. Of course I run the risk that Sony will detect my cheating and ban me from the game forever but at this point that would be fine by me.


On February 17, 2008 at 2:24 pm

Fire the author please. This is possibly the most poorly written article I have ever seen. The second half of the article reads like they shoved a mic in front of her ex-husband between raids.


On February 17, 2008 at 2:45 pm

As a wife of a WOW addict I would like to say something. My husband has been playing WOW since it’s initial release. My husband and I have been married for almost three years. He plays WOW everyday he possibly can and until the wee hours of the morning. I know exactly where this wife is coming from. We used do stuff together too. I was miserable because WOW seemed to be controlling his life, until I decided to do something about it. Now I’m a lvl 65 shadow priest and in a week or two I’ll be 70 and keyed for Kara. He takes me places now. We ran SP last night, and mana tombs the day before, and all of our friends and their spouses play to so we spend all night with our friends. Of course we both make time in our schedules to clean the house and take care off other matters, but we are very very happy!


On February 17, 2008 at 2:58 pm

Too bad for that guy, but chicks just don’t know how to have fun.


On February 17, 2008 at 3:05 pm

Ladies like to shop… to the tune of THOUSANDS of dollars a year.

That’s going to do a lot more damage to a marriage than her man sitting in front of a monitor… why is this not discussed?

Bfd, the garbage goes out late.


On February 17, 2008 at 3:25 pm

ok seriously, did you just compare WoW addictions to meth? come on now, that’s going way too far. there are A LOT of people who play WoW obsessively but have not and would not ever touch drugs. It’s a social disorder not an addiction you need to realize that, especially if you’re going to be touting yourself as a gamers news site.


On February 17, 2008 at 3:34 pm

WoW is highly addictive game, and no you don’t have to haver an addictive personality. I don’t smoke, drink ocassionaly, don’t gamble and don’t doany drugs but I was addicted to it for almost 2 years and it took me being evicted for not paying rent to realize just hwo low WoW can make your real life get. I predict a huge class actions suit or murder of the main WoW designer in teh near future.


On February 17, 2008 at 3:57 pm

For the Horde!


On February 17, 2008 at 4:07 pm

That is SAD…not his addiction but the excuses and the arguement the writer was trying to make. Yeah, lets feel sorry for Peter and blame it all on the WIFE..that makes sense.

I’m sorry but I’m addiction to POT and PORN but i still dont do it 24/7…7 days a week like he did with WOW.

Whether its a game addiction or internet addiction…most of the time..they are ALOT worse than any other minor drug like pot and porn. So i dont blame the wife..i would of left his ass ALONG TIME ago. If you play WOW every second of your life..then you deserve to be with nothing but WOW..so enjoy your PETER.


On February 17, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Here’s what it comes down to: He wanted to play WOW instead of spend time with her. If I were in her position, I’d have reacted the same way. It’s one thing to try to get an addict to see the picture, it’s another to keep trying to save them when they don’t care enough to want to be saved. If I were her, I’d have gotten out of there too.

Senior Coconut

On February 17, 2008 at 4:42 pm

I believe it is prevalence and accessibility that distinguishes WoW from other drugs. There is no hangover, there is no significant expense, there is no particularly harsh social stigma attached to sitting at a computer you’ve bought in the comfort of your own home. There are therefore fewer immediate and apparent consequences to heavy WoW gaming than other drugs.

WoW should therefore be recognized as a very different kind of potential addiction than other sources. The indicators of addiction will be different. The triggers will be different. The consequences will be different. The people affected will be different than your average chemically dependent person (if there is such a thing). And accordingly, the response to the problem should be different.

Not carefully recognizing how a MMORPG is different from other psychologically and chemically addicting drugs ironically makes it more dangerous, and only keeps the issue from being fully and seriously considered.


On February 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm

wow… that guy is freaking lame…


On February 17, 2008 at 4:59 pm

What a nerd he was. I know a few of those.


On February 17, 2008 at 5:05 pm

This guy playing for as long as he does indicates serious issues beyond the game.

I’m a WoWer too :) . But I see the perspective: there is no ‘winning condition’. Blizzard doesn’t want you to win, Blizzard only wants you to buy the account, that’s it.

You don’t have to level, you don’t have to have epic gear. There is no such requirement. Of course, the better gear allows you to do more stuff, but a level 70 is like a cripple who needs a really big crutch. You’re never as strong as you are at level 1 :) .

As soon as you realize that you can’t win, that you don’t need any gear, although over time you have to get some, the game just throws the stuff at you, you’re free from the drive to spend your every waking hour trying to get it.

Contrary to someone who stated that you can’t get an epic mount with normal playing: you can. Over time you will just accumulate the money to get one. It’s just inevitable.

EverQuest was a totally different beast: much -MUCH- harder [although the graphics sucked and the interface was a living hell - tradeskilling anyone?] but there was a real challenge.

I’d have left the guy too. I like the scenery, the human interaction, but grinding for rep or money isn’t what you would call the most satisfying thing you can do with life.

Everything in moderation. It sounds boring, but it works and there are other things to do with life.

Speaking of which…

Happy gaming, boys and girls.

Oh, and you can’t blame Blizzard: one of their hints as you log into the game is to do other stuff than play WoW. -They- are saying it, it’s more than unfair to blame them for building a nice game that people want to spend time in.

Can’t wait for RotLK, which I will enjoy because I don’t nearly care as much for the baubles than I do for the sheer fun of exploring.

It’s a game. If it’s no longer fun, why are you doing it?


On February 17, 2008 at 5:54 pm

I’ve had experience researching and treating patients with addictions, and there’s quite a few flaws in this article.

1) It’s not a valid argument to suggest that the husband has addiction issues in general, and would be addicted to pot/cocaine/alcohol if it were not WoW. There’s simply no science to back this up, and each substance has different ways of addicting a person, such as physical addiction (a hormonal need) or mental addiction like WoW.

2) Video games in general are enjoyed by numerous gamers in a healthy manner, but an absurd ratio of MMO gamers can be considered clinically “addicted” by clinical definitions. The reason has been stated before, and it’s simply because you need to maintain X hours of gameplay to maintain your status in the game. If you take a look at the bleeding edge players, it’s impossible to stay bleeding edge if you aren’t raiding multiple days a week, multiple hours a day. Sometimes exploring new content and tackling it first will increase these hours further. If 5% of players are bleeding edge, and there are 10 million subscribers to WoW, we’re talking 500,000 people in the world that can be diagnosed with addiction.

3) It’s unfair to be pointing fingers at other issues, when it’s clear that an issue has surfaced already. Is there mention of the husband being unhappy prior to receiving WoW? Yet, there IS mention that after the husband received WoW, the wife lost quality time together with her husband, and he began neglecting daily duties (a symptom of clinical addiction). Why start pointing fingers at the former, instead of focusing on what we KNOW is true–that WoW changed her husband dramatically upon entering their lives.

Anyways, this will get lost in the rubble, so there’s no point posting before. I’d recommend the author do a bit more research if they are going to venture in these topics ;) It’s just not fair to readers who may assume that what you say is true. In this case, WoW in particular was probably the sole source of the divorce.


On February 17, 2008 at 5:59 pm

Haha, the dumbass author tried to excuse WoW. WoW is the most evil thing ever introduced to the modern age. Comparing to Muslim terrorists, WoW is more damaging to the society. Millions of kids who play it are simply ruining their lives.

On the other hand, if you play WoW in a non-addictive way, good for you.


On February 17, 2008 at 6:06 pm

linked from [url]http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665321805&sid=1[/url]

This is why I quit WoW last year, Blizzard is not concerned about keeping the game fun at all levels anymore, their solution is just to offer more ways to grind to endgame. This is what encourages addiction, and they have said nothing about wanting to change this design philosophy. When WoW launched I did recommend it to friends and family, but no longer.

He chose his priorities. I feel sorry Jocelyn; may she find someone who values her more than a game.


On February 17, 2008 at 6:07 pm

I don’t see why this should be such a hot issue with anyone – OTHER than the men/women that have to put up with a significant other that spends all of her/his time playing a video game.

My boyfriend decided to give the game a try not too long ago and before he knew it, he was hooked. He worked night shift, a short day-shift and then he’d go home and just play WoW until it was time to go back to work. He barely slept, he became grumpy/moody/downright friggin mean even. I love video games so I ignored it figuring it was just a new fascination with a new game..no big deal right? Well, like I said, he got mean as hell. Anything that interrupted with WoW time (which was every spare minute) led to hell on earth. And for every other guy and girl I know who’s had a bg/gf hooked on the game, its been the same.

I think gamers need to stop getting so annoyingly defensive about this and just realize that like anything else, video games CAN be an addiction to the right (or just unfortunate) people. The wife in this article didn’t mention anything about therapy but honestly, it’s entirely possible that even therapy wouldn’t have made a difference.


On February 17, 2008 at 6:07 pm

linked from [url]http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665321805&sid=1[/url]

This is why I quit WoW last year, Blizzard is not concerned about keeping the game fun at all levels anymore, their solution is just to offer more ways to grind to endgame. This is what encourages addiction, and they have said nothing about wanting to change this design philosophy. When WoW launched I did recommend it to friends and family, but no longer.

He chose his priorities. I feel sorry Jocelyn; may she find someone who values her more than a game.


On February 17, 2008 at 6:41 pm

My husband and I both played WoW for several years. We did the hard core raiding 7 days a week until wee hours of the morning thing, calls in the middle of the night to get up, log on and kill world dragons (back when they were a big deal) and days off work to explore new content. It was fun. We got over it and found other stuff to do eventually. It’s insane that this woman is blaming the game for her marital problems. The game did not make the guy’s decisions for him. There have to have been other issues in the marriage. Whether or not she was aware of any issues is another matter. A game alone, albiet a very addictive one, cannot by itself ruin a relationship. Heck, log on and play with him! Why does “together time” automatically means doing something she wants to do?

Monty F.

On February 17, 2008 at 6:56 pm

You see, there are too many possible pre-existing issues here. An alcoholic would not turn to alcohol for the first time if they didnt have a problem that disabled them from dealing with their own problems. I am married and have been playing WoW for almost a year now. I have recently moved from a place my wife and I called home for the last 5 years. I use WoW to keep in touch with my friends on the other side of the country, and use it as a way to interact with people that I may never be able to see again. My wife started playing WoW because she missed the social interactions we used to have with our friends, and, since we have only recently moved to a new place, we have not yet had time to make new ones.
WoW serves for many people a way to interact with a world you may not have time to. I know of several parents who play every night together after their children go to bed, because they usually cannot afford to go anywhere, and will not leave their kids home. Should they be restricted from interaction with people? I would say that the few who abuse things make the rest of us look bad.
Not to mention, I have a very good friend I have made in-game, he is seventy years old, and generally immobile. He has no family nearby and says he is too old to make any new friends. He cannot get up and explore the world or do much of anything, but WoW gives him an entire world he CAN access, full of fantastical things and the freedom of choice, unhindered by physical inabilities, not to mention, a place he can go, and make friends.
It’s never the success stories that make the front page, but rather the stories of failure. We should feel bad for both parties in this article, the Woman for not knowing of her husband’s possible addictive personality, and the Husband who needs help. Lets see more front-page success stories, i’d Digg that.

bill gates

On February 17, 2008 at 7:24 pm

he has the lotion right beside the computer so he is good to go.


On February 17, 2008 at 7:34 pm

Stephany: stop making excuses. WoW is like crack to gamers and this is far too common to try to excuse it by saying he’d be addicted to something else. The fact is, it was WoW he got addicted to, nothing else.

It’s tragic that people choose to ruin their lives over a moronic game, but WoW was designed to get people addicted.


On February 17, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Anyone who has the gall to blame the wife is stupid. It’s very obvious WoW simply took over his life. Marriage problems doesn’t explain why he would suddenly stop paying bills.

“Oh, I hate my wife so much, I’m going to stop paying the bills!” Don’t be ridiculous.


On February 17, 2008 at 8:05 pm

Why can’t people accept the possibility that WoW really did ruin their marriage? It’s a very definite possibility, you can’t always blame it on something else.

WoW is set up to be addictive. It’s how Blizzard makes its money. Isn’t this in any way obvious to the people who try to defend WoW?


On February 17, 2008 at 8:12 pm

IVAN : “I like the way the author says “throwing his WoW disc in the trash” … lol … once installed there is no need for the disc. OMG !!! People if you are writing a piece about a game that you don’t even play … don’t write it.”

If you really think I am that ignorant, nothing I say will make any difference and only give you more fodder thus giving you diarrhea of the mouth – so I will not try and defend myself – but please note I appreciated your candor and the belly laugh it gave me. :lol:

Joe: “ok seriously, did you just compare WoW addictions to meth? come on now, that’s going way too far. there are A LOT of people who play WoW obsessively but have not and would not ever touch drugs. It’s a social disorder not an addiction you need to realize that, especially if you’re going to be touting yourself as a gamers news site.”

*rolling eyes*

Did I actually compare it to meth? No, and stop putting words in my mouth. I said that it could has as EASILY been something else he could have become addicted to. No matter what your addition, be it drugs, alcohol, or gaming, if it impacts your life in a NEGATIVE way – you have issues and need professional help.

One more thing – to all the ppl who think I am only taking the ex-husband’s side, you are wrong and I should have been more clear about this in my post. While I do feel bad for Jocelyn, I feel MORE sorry for PETER because HE is the one with the problem, not her. As far as we know, she has ZERO addictions. As far as what steps other than “together time” were taken to save the marriage, it is never mentioned in the original article – but with the media loving horrible stories the way it does and focusing on the controversy instead of the actual meat and potatoes of a situation – Yahoo! Games may have left that part out of the interview for shock effect. The media does it all the time. Speaking of which…..

Jeff: “I’d recommend the author do a bit more research if they are going to venture in these topics ;) It’s just not fair to readers who may assume that what you say is true. In this case, WoW in particular was probably the sole source of the divorce.”

I never said I was a psychologist – if I was I would be making a lot more money than I am right now. :smile: It was just an observation coming from someone who has indeed been in Jocelyn’s shoes before – but unfortunately it was an addiction much worse than anything Blizzard would or could ever create. But thank you for your very intelligent response. Sometimes, the only time we get comments on a topic such as this is when a bunch of fanboys jump into the fray and act like a bunch of mad three year-olds. Thankfully, that has not happened with this particular post. Well, at least it hasn’t YET. :lol:


On February 17, 2008 at 8:15 pm

I second everything Stephany said.

WoW might be “gamer crack”, but it’s certainly not like meth or real world drug addictions.


On February 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Blame it all on WoW. It is addictive and it was set up to be addictive. It is a drug, period. Sure it isnt a real substance but it has exactly the hall marks of any addictive drug and the same affects. I have loads of friends that have basicly ceased to exist because this game DOES NOT END. and they try to beat it anyway. WoW takes over your life to the point that you MUST continue to play


On February 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm

“# lintey says:
February 16th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

like my dad allways told me, get skills or die trying… but anyways, damn those PVEers ruining the life of other people, go arena”

I play WoW for PVE not for PvP, WoW is meant to be PVE how do PVE’rs ruin the life of other people?


On February 17, 2008 at 10:11 pm

I think with the addiction argument ,people need to know that most chemical addictions,drugs,alcohol etc are because of a physical chemical reaction to the substance ingested,most of which takes place in the brain.With any drug especially alcohol.there is no awareness of a problem until literally the first drink.Alcoholism is a disease that affects brain function and a host of other physiological changes,it is not a choice.neither is drug addiction and frankly neither is gaming.It slots into the same group as gamblers only its a psychological payoff rather than financial,and with pokies ,studies have shown peolple will play excessively even under testing circumstances when there is no financial payoff.All the “well done” and “you’re a winner” messages feed a psychological need whilst engendering pleasant physical sensations associated with “winning”.It’s a very complicated issue and psychological addictions are extremely difficult to deal with and believe me when I say,as with chemicals,there does not need to be an underlying issue of any kind to propel someone into full blown addiction.Having said that,it does not help,if you do have issues then it can become an escape mechanism ,and not a true addiction at all.For the couple involved they need help,but he cant and wont until he is ready and as unfortunate as that is for her,it has to run its course.He will stop when it becomes impossible to continue,eg-eviction,job loss,etc.from there then,he will make his climb back to himself,and who knows,shes doing the same thing,maybe they’ll hook up later!!Nothing is ever black and white.


On February 17, 2008 at 10:45 pm

WOW! Haha, I love just saying that repeatedly when my friends are discussing World of Warcraft. I’m more of a tech nerd that works too much than a gamer, so I just stand in the background and randomly blurt out “woooooow” while they discuss aspects of the game. Both of my younger brothers are addicted to it so I hear WoW banter all the time. I just deal with it I suppose.

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Richard C Monger

On February 17, 2008 at 11:00 pm



On February 17, 2008 at 11:48 pm

Blaming the game 100% is a mistake but MMORPGs are a bit ridiculous in their own right.


On February 18, 2008 at 12:52 am

WoW is a crafted for one purpose, to addict people so that they keep paying. The concept of a game with no real goals or set missions sounds like an amazing concept, something my gaming group talked about years ago. The problem with games like WoW or, to site another example, Second Life is that it puts you further behind the longer you don’t play. I’m a die-hard gamer and I admit that I tried WoW (and Second Life) and I recognized it for what it was, a pit, a pit that sucks in your time and money. Unfortunately several of our friends started playing WoW and haven’t stopped. They work enough to afford food, electricty, internet and WoW but they dropped out of everything else in life.

You can invest your time in any of a dozen other better games and still pick up a hobby, set up a D&D campaign and spend time with real people all without quiting school and your job, but I’d wager that’s not the case with WoW.
The point is: If you need to find an escape from life… dream; If that doesn’t work out for you, go out and actually lead a ‘Second life’.


On February 18, 2008 at 1:06 am

great, how much therapy did they go to together? did she ever try and play WoW a little in exchange for him watching tv or doing something stupid she wanted to do? how much did she look into exploring his hobbies and try to find something interesting about them as further insight into the man she may have loved?

whiny es are a dime a dozen, so are gaming hermits.

obviously it wasn’t meant to be

game over

and we wait for the next sad tale to blog about..


On February 18, 2008 at 4:05 am

He plays 24/7 why the hell should she join in? She’s not interested in playing the game, she wants to be with him.

Stop defending your addiction.

Chris G

On February 18, 2008 at 8:54 am

I can almost guarantee you that she is lying and her facts are not straight. If she is anything like my former girlfriend, who I broke up with, she is a liar. I play WoW and I played it at her apartment when I was there, but that is because you can not get her off the television. Her eyes are fixed on it the entire day. The only time she gets up is to eat, sleep, go to the doctor and that sort of thing. If you try to hug her, you’ll notice that her eyes are on the TV while you are hugging her. Then she tries to say you aren’t spending enough time with her when you sit on the computer to play WoW for 30 minutes or sit in a raid for 2 hours one night. Pure hypocrite.

If in fact she is lying and he was that stuck on the game, then he may have deserved it. Knowing women though, I can’t be so sure.

Drew C

On February 18, 2008 at 9:16 am

its not the games fault its the guys….
its his resposibility to balance all aspects of his life,
im a serious gamer too, but i know theres a time to play games and theres a time to be in a relationship…
its all about being responsible :???:


On February 18, 2008 at 9:47 am

Hate stories like these.

I play WoW and EQ2, and usually log around between 40 and 100 hours a week. Yet I still manage to go to university, have and spend time with friends, and keep up with rent/apartment chores, etc. The husband was a tool, and should have been able to realize that RL would have to come before gaming, because with 0 RL, eventually there will be 0 ingame life. (Can’t pay for a subscription with no money).

As for the wife, she’s full of . A 15 year relationship, including six years of marriage, fallen apart in six months because of a game??? Without any word of addiction counseling? There is NO way that its the only reason for the divorce.

As well, her half an hour of together time? How about more info on that, if I’m at a scheduled raid, and halfway through one of my roommates comes up to me and asks if I want to watch a movie or something, you better believe I’ll tell them to f*** off.

As for Blizzard’s responsibility in these issues, they have their disclaimers that state, every couple of hours it is strongly recommended that you log off for an hour or so. what do they care how much you play? They get the same subscription fee whether you play one hour or every hour of a month.

Generally tho, relationships between hardcore gamers and non-gamers wouldn’t work that well. It’d be like trying to get a relationship to work between hardcore Christian and Muslim people. Its just a really different way of life. The partners have to have an understanding of what the other person needs, and be able to accomodate it, which neither husband or wife seemed able to do.


On February 18, 2008 at 9:56 am

@ Andrew

The wife stated herself that the husband would “get home from work at 6:00, and start playing at 6:30, then log off at 3″. Thats five and a half hours a night. Which is NOWHERE near 24/7, and which also shows that he still understood that no matter how addicted he became, he would still have to work. When the addiction gets out of control is when he skipped work to play.


On February 18, 2008 at 10:10 am

I agree with my partner that if she is allowed to watch an hour or two of TV (rubish TV at that) per night, then i am also allowed a few sessions playing on my console/whatever through the week (undisturbed). I’d love to play a lot more but i also like having a good time with my partner (we’ve been together for 5 years), as well as having 5ex.
She doesn’t like me playing on it, thinks it childish, but then realises that i enjoy doing it (incidently i think her TV progs are crap too). As long as i don’t abuse it then we live happily like this and we can respect each others hobbies/interests – BUT we still make time for each other.

Regardless of how much this gent loved the game, clearly he needs to get out more and associate with real people – not pixels

Note – sometimes i leave work early to play


On February 18, 2008 at 11:57 am

I know that some will disagree with me… The person that wrote that article is a wow addict themselves and is placing blame on the wife for his/her own feelings of guilt. The person obviously sees too much of themselves in the husband and doesn’t like that so shifts the blame to the wife. The wife IS NOT to blame. Just like cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs. you can’t help someone that doesn’t want to be helped. I played WoW and I’m glad that I gave it up.

One day soon the ex-husband will wake up without a job and an eviction notice on his door and wonder what happened.

Ps. Cancelling the internet and throwing the game out may have made this a case of domestic abuse instead of a sad story on gaming addiction.


On February 18, 2008 at 12:04 pm

Well, if old Jocelyn hadn’t let all that fat accumulate in her ass and stopped waxing her mustache, maybe her hubby would have been more attracted to her instead of a video game. If a woman can’t compete with a video game, then there’s something wrong with HER. Try jogging.


On February 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Comme quoi meme si tu joues a WoW il faut toujours bien baiser ta femme ! Ca lui evitera de se barrer pour aller se faire baiser ailleurs :wink:


On February 18, 2008 at 8:48 pm

Kehpri just proved that they have personally never visited this site until today because if they had they would have known that the author has stated in previous posts and comments that she has never played WoW. Sounds like they are the ones with the secret WoW addiction – do your research and know the site you post comments on before talking out of your junior-high ass. :roll:


On February 19, 2008 at 12:34 am

:lol: lol, its his fault, but the game has nothing to do with it. I see it as a hobby. how about people that play guitars or has a hobby they spend a lot of time on. you have to know how to control it. if it was up to me, i would fish all day and make love all night, lol. wouldn’t you? You can’t use a game as a scape goat. he probably had more fun playing the damn game for 6 months, than his marriage for 6 years. think about that one.


On February 19, 2008 at 12:38 am

noobs everyone knows WoW > girls


On February 19, 2008 at 4:46 am




On February 19, 2008 at 12:42 pm

:neutral: Wow, Everquest, DAOC, UO, Lineage, *insert any other MMOG here* all have been pointed to at one time or another as the reason some couple split up/divorced/quit school.

Before the internet they’d blame it on consoles, before that it was TV, plenty of blame on alcohol and drugs throughout history. Hobbies of all sorts have been blamed forever.

Looks to me more like a sobcase of a scorned woman who didn’t hold her mans attention. If you can’t keep your husband intrigued he will find some other way to occupy his time you can either solve the lack of intrigue, accept that “hey at least he’s home”, or leave. This woman chose option C (notice her choice not his) and then blames husband for her taking the easiest way out. And as a little divoce bonus apparently feels the need to belittle the former “love of her life” in interviews etc. I bet if there is enough traction we might even see a Blizzard lawsuit someday *GASP*

Look at one of the known facts the 6 year investment she let go after only 9 months. She clearly didn’t want to be there either yet the scapegoat is his supposed addiction (all stated by her obviously). Her “better or worse” lasted roughly the time it takes to have a baby which in the grand scheme of life is marriage is nothing.

Best line I think sums up a societal problem of perception in this whole scenario “No one knows the full story of why their marriage collapsed or if anything was done to try and salvage it other than “together time” to watch TV” yes vegging out infront of the TV is “quality” time vs his hobby involving more thought.

I imagine if the “gamer” was an avid reader these stories would be slanted a completely different way.

Sure people get addicted to anything but I don’t see the evidence here. Call us when “Man loses house moves out to the street to keep playing WoW on laptop via free WiFi” and we’ll talk real addiction. Until then it’s someone with out of whack priorities (possibly intentionally) or is just bored that would probably be doing anything to take their break from reality at a certain point in time. A mid life crisis manifesting itself in gaming form instead of a red corvette and 20 year old strippers if you will.


On February 19, 2008 at 3:20 pm

Hello all,

She is NOT blaming Blizzard entirely for this, and may not have gone into her desire to get counseling.
Unless someone has experienced this personally (I lost my wife over this same thing), they can be a peanut gallery and spout off all sorts of arm-chair psych opinions.

NONE OF THEM ARE QUALIFIED, neither professionally or personally to assess this situation.

Only families of addicts (of any kind of addiction) and mental health professionals can speak authoritatively on this topic, and give *qualified* opinions.

As far as “cracking the CDs” or “cancelling their Internet connect” and her not doing so somehow means she “didn’t do everything to save her marriage” is BS. In fact, I was told explicitly by a counselor with 35yrs of addiction experience, with many of it dealing with Internet Addiction, to NOT do either of those things.

If the person is truly addicted, there is no limit to how someone might react. And yes, there are cafes and bars in my town FULL of people that fit the “Man/Woman loses house, moves out to the street to keep playing WoW on laptop via free WiFi.”

…They may not be homeless, but they have lost their family, friends and many times their jobs.

The above poster can redirect the same underlying issue into a “mid-life crisis” or any other name, but this is a real addiction. The argument that “he could have been addicted to X, Y or Z instead of WoW” is a common but faulty, weak and plain stupid idea, usually put forth by people who either refuse to beleive a game could be addicting, or feel like this is an attack on their past time / an attempt to absolve that person of any responsibility.

Internet Addiction, in its many forms (gaming, porn, obsessive surfing / chatting), is a REAL addiction and is almost certain to be included as an official clinical entity in the next release of the Psychology reference for mental illness. That said, her HUSBAND was responsible for this, no matter if he is clinically ill or just lazy.

In the end this destroyed HER marriage. Another may be destroyed by golf, or affairs, or drugs, but those marriages are not the subject of this article…THIS ONE IS…so such “arguments” are irrelevant.


On February 19, 2008 at 6:01 pm

So you think your experience with the subject yet no background on any posters qualifies you to sit back and say “hey poster x has no experience” because you apparently have it all. How wrong you are.

You don’t know any more background than we have all read in the article you can’t make out addiction from this. You see 1 side…the scorned wife who is airing her concerns. Such is the state of people today if it’s in text on the internet it must be how it really happened. The fact is I don’t even see the fairly commonplace symptoms of people you’d like to see take a step back like “called in sick to work”, the closest to it is “he stopped paying the bills” and frankly there could be many underlying reasons why one spouse stops paying bills and the other spouse gets a turn at it. Her infamous example of rejection was him skipping some 30 minute TV show “they” (hey we know relationships so this no doubt means SHE) liked had planned for them to see. Where’s the “I wore his favorite lingerie and he said that’s nice dear before turning back to the screen”, “his family came over and he sat there at his desk in his underwear raiding the whole time”, “he took so many days off work, or went in late all the time until he got fired”, or “now he’s living in his parents basement”.

Take a step back and see that the complaint is he chose the game over her, not over everything else. I like the way wikipedia defines our current use of the word “addiction is used to describe a recurring compulsion by an individual to engage in some specific activity, despite harmful consequences to the individual’s health, mental state or social life” Yet we only see a fraction of this scenario and no background on it, the husbands view, or even anecdotal evidence from the wife of anything being pushed aside but things involving her and her thoughts of how they should be or possibly were at one point in his marriage. You could remake this article as “Blizzard Employee driven to jealousy over WoW” and you’d likely be just as accurate given what we can discern.

Ya she isn’t blaming Blizzard “She also states that WoW was the sole catalyst for the divorce and is still highly emotional about its impact on her marriage.” and “[Blizzard] build it in such a way that you have to keep putting more and more time into it to maintain your status. I remember thinking when I was married that it was downright exploitative to people who couldn’t control themselves in that way. It’s set up like a drug.” – Which is really funny since I as a gamer must say WoW is about the most casual friendly game I’ve played as far as levelling and such goes. Then end game raiding well that’s up to the player and his guildees but there is no driving incentive other than in ones own mind.

“The argument that “he could have been addicted to X, Y or Z instead of WoW” is a common but faulty, weak and plain stupid idea, usually put forth by people who either refuse to beleive a game could be addicting, or feel like this is an attack on their past time / an attempt to absolve that person of any responsibility.”
Deflecting my argument on the limited information we have just shows you buy the whole story as stated hook, line, and sinker just from the one sided report of the wife. No doubt because you apparently went through something similar and it seems to parallel your experience. It’s alright we see it everywhere from recoverees (and their families). Anything that led them down the path to addiction must be a warning sign of a downfall for all others and a wet blanket must be thrown. Newsflash not everyone has control problems with *choose your poison*, some people make rational decisions that may seem irrational to others. I play games including WoW, I do it and other hobbies as a replacement for time in front of the idiot box (called Television). Once in a while I’ll make a decision to play a game instead of doing whatever til later, but on the flipside who’s out there warning all the people watching TV and saying “I’ll get it af a commercial” or “Can we go when Design on a Dime is over sweetie” as addicts. Noone, when it’s a video game involved in a breakup it’s the game/company on taking the brunt of it for churning out addicts, when it’s TV or working on a Hot Rod it’s just called not enough attention and there’s no need for an article or discussion. You can try and sever the link and say “well those other things aren’t relevant to this divorce” but I say they do matter as it’s a sign of some of the issues in our society and works towards the deeper issues of not only divorce but the labeling we use on different scenarios depending on what hot button terms are used.

While Andrews counselor makes a point about the unpredictable behavior that might surface from cutting off a true addict (and possible loss in revenue for the counselor should it actually work…forgive my cynacism). The woman in the article didn’t apparently care anyways when you think about it, it’s an obvious step in a predictable argument chain that would start in month 1 “you don’t pay attention to me anymore” to month 9 “adios muchacho”. Sure progressive couples that tend to think of counseling as a first step and weren’t looking for an excuse to leave would get said counselor’s advice before something abrupt was done, but really for most it’s the last step after you’ve run out of ideas.

and on a parting note. It was THEIR marriage not his or hers. In any partnership at times one side or the other is bound to faulter in some way, that’s when you rely on the other side to help pick up the slack, and by the finish line you hope it’s somewhere near even. Even if she is telling the complete brutal truth she called it quits on 9 months out of over 6 years of bliss and said “see ya sucker”. It doesn’t make sense for anyone truly in love with their spouse. Blame always lies somewhere in the middle from only the fractional view we can see. She didn’t attempt (or doesn’t state that she did) some of the most obvious of solutions to regain his attention, and well he didn’t care enough about his relationship with her obviously. So looks like the were both apathetic to making this particular marriage work if you ask me. WoW is the reason she gives (notice the disbelief of her line about how could he possibly choose fantasy over me) and well we don’t get his side but being men we can probably guess.


On February 19, 2008 at 9:36 pm

“stephany”. To suggest that WoW is not at fault because the husband possesses some addictive trait is absolutely atrocious. how could you even suggest that if she brought meth or porn or marijuana into the house that it would yield the same result? that is ludicrous. you think you can just type in your name and pay $20 and get a months worth of pot? you think that when you smoke meth all you do is smoke meth? no. when you get high, you do other things, as counter-productive as they may be. Blizzard isnt at fault for ruining the marriage, but they ARE at fault for producing a game which is INTENDED to consume the majority of its players free time. its called marketing. the more they play, the more blizzard makes. and they made it so that you never want to quit playing. to suggest that alcohol, pot, meth, and porn(for whatever reason you decided to add pornography, which is nowhere near as addictive as those other substances. of my own experience, the amount of people ive met that are addicted to pornography stands at a ratio of around 1:every other person ive ever known closely enough to know if they are) are in the same category and that its the addicted persons liability is heartless and ignorant. if you intend on being a journalist of any kind i would STRONGLY suggest holding that emotional tongue of yours back and only suggesting fact.


On February 19, 2008 at 11:02 pm

The guy was probably depressed, either through external circumstances, chemical imbalance, bad genetics, or some combination of both. WOW became an escape from reality. The game is not the culprit in the situation, it just happened to be the thing he went to to get away from the things that troubled him. It is a game that does a great job of keeping your attention and keeps your mind off of things through content and very safe interaction through other people. I doubt, as some posters are saying, that Blizzard made a game that’s sole purpose was to suck up people’s time and create addictions in order to keep the bankroll coming. Yes, they want to make money, but they probably just wanted to make a game that people wanted to play, and they made it open ended and limitless so you could always come back to it. It’s not an evil empire, it’s just proof that people will blame a lack of self control and priorities on anything convenient, just like people blame school shootings on violence in television instead of understanding the complex societal issues that create those troubled individuals and the kind of isolation it takes to drive a person to such extremes. Scared people go to seemingly obvious and simple causes to explain things they can’t understand. For example, I used to play the game Call of Duty 4 almost obsessively on a regular basis, not enough to lose time with my girlfriend or lose control of my life, but to the point of mild addiction. I recently switched over to playing WOW and have found it to be less addicting, as the process of grinding can be very boring in stretches. I also use it to keep in touch with my best friend who is away at school and won’t be coming back home when he graduates. It is a really cool way to keep in touch and a lot of fun, a good way to pass time. So I log on usually for an hour or two, possibly longer if I have nothing to do and have the time to vegetate. My point being, all gaming or any hobby you enjoy can become a compulsive thing, and your ability to control whether you use it or abuse it just depends on your mental state and circumstances.

I feel bad for both people, because it is a very hard situation when somebody goes from a relationship that is loving and fulfilling to feeling more and more unloved and neglected over time. It is even harder dealing with a mental disease when it is still widely regarded by society as something that is “all in the head” and not a big deal. I hope the guy in question gets help, and that he learns to enjoy his favorite hobbies in a healthy way while enjoying his relationships and leading a fulfilling life. It will be very possible if he has the right kind of support and sticks with it.

Radical Edward

On February 21, 2008 at 3:55 am

Sad how such a game can tear people apart.

Then again, it was my choice in video games that kept me and my sister apart.


On February 21, 2008 at 4:20 am


(from south park’s title.)


On February 21, 2008 at 1:26 pm

Lol @ all the morons who posted against the author

You all need get an education and maybe take some psychology classes so you know what the fk you are talking about. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


On February 21, 2008 at 2:43 pm

It’s funny how you never hear about all those millions of people that have jobs, families, children… that spend time with them, do what needs to be done in the real world and then raid for a few hours maybe 3-4 nights a week. Maybe play for an hour or two when they get home from work. The fact is.. they have enough of a brain in their heads to know when to log out and leave the computer. If anyone is getting so addicted to the game that they can’t let it go at all during their waking hours, then that’s something that is wrong with that person. Not the game.


On February 21, 2008 at 3:21 pm

“Skwerley says:

“stephany”. To suggest that WoW is not at fault because the husband possesses some addictive trait is absolutely atrocious. how could you even suggest that if she brought meth or porn or marijuana into the house that it would yield the same result? that is ludicrous. you think you can just type in your name and pay $20 and get a months worth of pot? you think that when you smoke meth all you do is smoke meth? no. when you get high, you do other things, as counter-productive as they may be. Blizzard isnt at fault for ruining the marriage, but they ARE at fault for producing a game which is INTENDED to consume the majority of its players free time. its called marketing. the more they play, the more blizzard makes. and they made it so that you never want to quit playing. to suggest that alcohol, pot, meth, and porn(for whatever reason you decided to add pornography, which is nowhere near as addictive as those other substances. of my own experience, the amount of people ive met that are addicted to pornography stands at a ratio of around 1:every other person ive ever known closely enough to know if they are) are in the same category and that its the addicted persons liability is heartless and ignorant. if you intend on being a journalist of any kind i would STRONGLY suggest holding that emotional tongue of yours back and only suggesting fact.”

As far as “holding that emotional tongue of yours back and only suggesting fact” if I “intend on being a journalist” – I have a couple of things to say and this is for everyone else who may be slightly confused like Skwerely is:


Christ on crutches, do I need to make it any clearer? Should I draw a diagram? Do you not think that opinions are not broadcast with every single news story you get on television, or read in newspapers, magazines, or on the internet? Sure it is, but most of the time it is thinly veiled and not as obvious as in other outlets, our being one of the later.

Skwerely, how old are you? Seriously? If you honestly think that addiction to porn is few and far between, I can give you a list of help groups, and names of people who have had their relationships ruined by their partner’s addiction to porn if you like. Calling my opinion on this “ignorant” is silly considering the fact that you, yourself, do not think it is possible to have an addiction to porn – or maybe I just struck a nerve with you on that one. Regardless, opinions are not WRONG or RIGHT. That is why it is called and opinion, otherwise it would just be news.


On February 21, 2008 at 7:22 pm

i got addicted to wow and then my brother got my account baned and i was like Sh!t what happened over the last six months ive been of the wow for two weeks! but divorce lol


On February 22, 2008 at 1:38 am

Sounds to me like the guy didn’t want the wife around. He wanted to play wow and not think about her at all. He probably didn’t want to have sex with her or do any housework, says he didn’t pay bills, etc. Basically, he broke up with her. At that point, she was right to leave…I wonder if he even noticed or cared? Obviously he stopped caring for her but did not want to do the messy work of breaking up with her. So seems to me the only logical thing to do in such a situation when your spouse doesn’t want you is to leave. Maybe he really did beg her to stay and loved her and yadda yadda but it sounds like he really didn’t. So if he wants his wow and not his wife, he has it free now. It’s win win. I don’t see the point in placing blame anywhere or getting angry at either of them. He wanted wow, and she wanted a boyfriend. They both wanted different things. She left. Makes sense.


On February 22, 2008 at 2:37 pm

Bah she’ll get over it WOW on dude, Thats what ladies of the evening are for !!!!!


On February 22, 2008 at 9:41 pm

As long as there will never be a WoW Anonymous, I’ll be fine.


On February 23, 2008 at 5:41 pm

Maybe she wasn’t worth HIS time.


On February 24, 2008 at 5:05 pm

:roll: My husband’s playing WoW now. If he started treating WoW like a crack addiction, I’d just disconnect the internet service. Problem solved.

I don’t find it hard to deal with, though. He’s having fun, why should I interrupt him?


On February 25, 2008 at 9:00 am

Well, what do you expect? Those dailies and epics aren’t going to grind themselves.


On February 25, 2008 at 11:36 am

No all of it can be blamed on WoW, my son is totaly hooked, I know others that play and they are hooked completely.
WoW is an addiction game and say NO not completely is just plain
denying I mean at least if you smoke pot or drink beer, you know
you have to at least get your sorry ass up and go to work.
The game is like crack, the only difference is people playing WoW
don’t stand on the corner selling themselves.
I’m going to cut the freaking cable line to his room, I love so I
won’t throw his butt out on the street.


On February 25, 2008 at 11:10 pm

I play WOW and my husband doesn’t, I am a casual gamer so I don’t spend every waking hour playing.

I can see how it can become addictive (just finish this quest, get this item, raid etc), but the key here is MODERATION. If you do anything to excess whether it be gaming, tv, eating, whatever it is, it’s not good and can lead to problems with loved ones and your social life.

If I was enjoying my game of WoW and my husband said to me come and watch some tv with me, I would probably suggest going out instead of sitting there watching mindless tv. If he didn’t want to go out, then it would be no different to me asking him to watch me play WoW, but at least my mind is being active and I would be participating in a large social network.

I also think that the husband in the story would have become addicted to Everquest or any other MMORPG, it just so happened that his wife got him a copy of WoW instead of one of the others.

Like I said I only play 20 – 30 hours per week and I still interact with family, friends and work full time. If my husband wants my attention, I switch it off and we enjoy each others company.

My point is: anything done to excess is bad. :idea:

Enjoy the sunshine be it real or virtual,



On February 25, 2008 at 11:12 pm

I play WOW and my husband doesn’t, I am a casual gamer so I don’t spend every waking hour playing.

I can see how it can become addictive (just finish this quest, get this item, raid etc), but the key here is MODERATION. If you do anything to excess whether it be gaming, tv, eating, whatever it is, it’s not good and can lead to problems with loved ones and your social life.

If I was enjoying my game of WoW and my husband said to me come and watch some tv with me, I would probably suggest going out instead of sitting there watching mindless tv. If he didn’t want to go out, then it would be no different to me asking him to watch me play WoW, but at least my mind is being active and I would be participating in a large social network.

I also think that the husband in the story would have become addicted to Everquest or any other MMORPG, it just so happened that his wife got him a copy of WoW instead of one of the others.

Like I said I only play 20 – 30 hours per week and I still interact with family, friends and work full time. If my husband wants my attention, I switch it off and we enjoy each others company.

My point is: anything done to excess is bad. :idea:

Enjoy the sunshine be it real or virtual,

Tina. :grin:


On February 25, 2008 at 11:38 pm

“My point is: anything done to excess is bad.”

you can never have enough money or cars.


On February 26, 2008 at 3:58 am

When I read this I really wanted to cry. I was in the same situation (not married) but a bf of 3 years. The fallowing is oneof our last convos that we had over msn:

]) @ |\| @ says:
are you really willing to risk our relationship over tier6?
Rick says:
i dont know what you want me to say
]) @ |\| @ says:
the truth
]) @ |\| @ says:
but the fact that you couldnt answer that gave me your answer

Reading what happened with her just hit so close to home. I to was a gamer and it was a great time to spend time together but then real life started to seem so distant. There would be things we would want to do but raid was a nightly event that always was more fun or more important or in his words, “it makes me happy.”

I don’t hold anything against WoW, it is not the makers fault and it is not the games fault. It is the fault of the people who let it ruin/control their lives. I simply told my bf that if WoW was more important, he coult have it, the only thing that it would cost him becides the monthly payment was our relationship. He made his choice when I saw him in raid the fallowing night.

An Alien

On February 26, 2008 at 6:37 am

I laugh at the last part:
“Did she ever consider canceling their internet service, his Blizzard account and throwing his WoW disc in the trash?”
I don’t play WoW, but if that happened to any of the mmorpg’s I do play, I think everyone in a 10 mile radius would die from 4th degree burns. :twisted:

Recently Quit Wow Addict

On February 26, 2008 at 12:20 pm

“His addiction could as easily have been pot, liquor, porn or meth – if she were to have brought them into the house it would have been a different addiction instead of gaming”

Wife as the dept store:
“Hmm, should I buy him a copy of World of Warcraft or a fat baggie of meth and a Milf Hunter 6 DVD?”


On February 26, 2008 at 2:47 pm

You can throw the WoW Disks in the trash all you want.. you only ever need them ONCE to see the CD key on the package :)


On February 26, 2008 at 7:45 pm

:mrgreen: I can’t see the Jocelyn chick so I can’t determine the real outcome of what really happened. Maybe she was 120lbs when they got married and now she’s 280lbs. I know it’s kinda bad for me to say that but if you were a woman and your man went from a cut 180lb guy to a 300lb fatty you would think the same way.


On February 27, 2008 at 4:03 pm

To All:

I agree with the statements that the media has sensationalized the issue of gaming / Internet addiction, and there are plenty of snake-oil salesmen out there to “cure” someone of the problem. I also agree Blizzard is only guilty of creating a great game, and is not at fault for these tradgedies…just like an alchohic is responsible for their actions while drunk, not the brewery.

That said, whether it is a “compulsion” or an “addition” or an “obsession” or whatever you want to call it, if someone plays so much that it affects their marriage / s.o., job, health, etc. then something is certainly wrong.

I think to argue over these semantics and nuances is missing the big picture. It is a fact that some people (how many / what percentage is up for debate) have a problem. Whether it is technically an “addictive personality” or depression or anything else is irrelevant (except perhaps for determining treatment) if the result is the same as any other form of addiction.

I lost my wife to WoW. She literally went from a career-driven, family-oriented woman in her mid-thirties who had a job and was trying to have children with me, to within a few months of playing WoW (4, 8,then 12-16 hours a day) a complete mess.

It even got so bad she would literally step over dog crap in the floor (left there because she wouldn’t AFK long enough to let him out) to get online.

Now here’s the chicken or the egg issue:

Did becoming “addicted” (insert whatever term here) to WoW cause these personality changes? Or did she have some other form of nervous breakdown and then began to look for an escape?

Either way, her solution to numbing whatever pain or issue she was having was to play WoW excessively. Fundamentally, addiction of any form is primarily about numbing pain with a compulsive action.

When asked by family and friends to stop, even if it meant losing those relationships she decided to keep playing and stated that “if they don’t like me playing, then that is THEIR problem not mine.”

Anyone who has lived with an alchoholic, gambler or druggie has heard these very same words…

So instead of debating exactly what this “thing” is that seems to be going on with some people, the gaming community and developers need to acknowledge “something” is in fact occuring and perhaps make gamers and non-gamers alike aware that if your friends and family express concern about your playing / its effects upon you, and your first reaction is to be defensive perhaps you need to shut off your ego and listen. Don’t play at all for a few months and “prove” to them and yourself you aren’t one of those people with a problem…

…It seems when people do listen to those outside concerns and stop for awhile, they realize in many cases there was some sort of issue, do some self-analysis and constructive criticism of themselves and then either decide to play casually or move on to another game or form of entertainment.

In short, if someone is asked by their spouse to stop doing something (whatever that is) because it is affecting their marriage, and that person refuses then they’ve made their choice to do that action rather than care about their partner’s feelings or the relationship.

I ask all of you on here: If you won’t stop playing to save friendships, marriages, your job, etc. does it really matter what it’s called?


On February 28, 2008 at 2:36 pm

I’d rather not leave my 2cents about this article, but the ignorant person who said First Person Shooters are a better outlet of gaming.

So exposing yourself to abnormally real in-depth depictions of terrorism and blowing another person’s brains out is a more healthy alternative to slaying dragons? I cant even comprehend the reasoning behind this.

Lawful Neutral

On February 28, 2008 at 4:27 pm


Tony Danza Left Liver

On March 10, 2008 at 10:48 pm

Women don’t have hobbies. :cry:


On March 19, 2008 at 11:37 am

I play Wow a lot.
It’s kind of sad but I would bet big time she did not schedule a show, she just said this one and it conflicted with a raid time. That is 24 other people that need your toon to play, if they pick up another person then your out and could end up staying out. So she should have invested in a DVR if it had to be that show, and said Pick a time, anyone can say screw grinding and watch a show with the wife, I guarantee we did not hear the whole story here. We have a guy in our guild raids every other Friday and everyone else is cool with it. If he was hell bent for DKP then there was still down time if she would have negotiated a time. But look at all the people that sit around and watch TV from 6 til midnight oh my goodness.


On March 22, 2008 at 9:02 pm

I have a very addictive personality, and my friends and family would tell you that I am addicted to WoW. That is why if one of my friends wants to get together and hang out, it has to be pre planned because I may be raiding. Even the hardcore raiders that treat WoW like a job always keep a schedule. This guy did not get so engrossed in the game he couldn’t come out of it. He was trying to escape. Maybe from her, maybe from work, but he was not happy. Everyone who actually plays WoW and raids in the game knows that there is always times that you would get bored and want to try to level up secondary skills or just casual PVP (see the other side and ambush them). This guy was not happy, and his wife couldn’t help him. That’s not the games fault. She didn’t try hard enough and he didn’t care enough. Not Blizzards fault.

And BTW, Blizzard has done everything in it’s power to make it so that even if you took a 6 month hiatus from the game, you would NOT loose your status, your loot, nothing. You will come back EXACTLY how you stopped. There are even benefits for people that DON’T play everyday. Blizzard is doing their best to make a game for the masses. The masses have lives, and Blizzard respects and honors that. Gear does not have to be received via raids; there is the PVP aspect of it that allows for completely casual gaming and your gear and loots and rewards are the equivilant of the hardcore gamers. Do not blame the makers because someone chose to give up on rl. Blame him. It was his choice.

Julie Neal

On April 5, 2008 at 8:17 pm

As a wife of someone who plays WoW daily and from the time he gets home till late in the evening, I can tell you that WoW can pose a serious problem. I’ve told my husband many times that I’m tired of him choosing the game over real life. He doesn’t want to go out, see friends, or spend any time with me. We used to do active things together all the time. Now we rarely do anything as a couple. The worst part is that he is in total denial. He says he only plays it three times a week. No –three times a week is when he has “appointments” to play — appointments he will never miss. Not even when family is in town. The truth is in addition to “appointment days” he also plays every day and for hours on end. On the weekends he’ll play first thing in the morning, maybe take a break for two or three hours, then get back on and play till 1 or 2am. He argues that he’s only on it for a little while and doesn’t it play it that much. I think he’s an addict in denial. No matter how much it hurts me, he refuses to stop or cut down how much he plays. If I tell him it hurts me, he gets very defensive of the game and feels I am putting him down.

He still goes to work and pays the bills so, until then, I guess he’ll never see he has a problem.

Honestly, I see this game contributing to the end of our marriage. It’s interesting because I haven’t seen any other addictive behaviors in him. My father and brother were addicts (alcohol and drugs) but I never saw this kind of addiction coming.

I am seriously considering leaving over a game!


On April 10, 2008 at 2:13 am

Well, as a serious gamer myself (averaging probably 20 hours a week) I still manage to both have a social life and a strong relationship. It annoys the crap out of me that the author was trying to defend the guy. People keep saying stuff about how she didn’t try hard enough or that she didn’t do enough to help him but seriously, you can only push a person so far. She stuck with him for a long time, she tried to make time for the two of them to be together. What’s the point in being married to someone who hardly acknowledges you? So what if she didn’t want to go to counseling? That doesn’t make her to blame for the divorce. After that long, I would have gotten fed up and seen the man as not worth my time. She was in a relationship lacking love and affection and you can only go so long without wanting out.


On April 21, 2008 at 5:44 pm

I hate this game. It really ruin people’s lives. My boyfriend plays it everyday ever since it came out. My boyfriend and I been together for alomost 7 years and for 3 years he has been playing this game. I remember during my birthday, he decided to play WOW all day on my special day and he didn’t even do anything for me. Last night, I finally got fed up with it and confronted him after he is done riading or dungeoning whatever. I told him that i have had it and he now needs to choose either me or the game and if he doesn’t answer then im leaving that night. He said he didnt want me to leave him, but he doesnt want to quit WOW too. So i said that if that is what he wants then i’m leaving because years from now i dont want to regret not leaving him at this moment. And he just got angrier to the fact that i am blaming the game and is gonna leave him over a game. However, i told him that WOW isn’t consider a game anymore, it’s more consider like a girl he is cheating with and he still doesn’t get it. I just got angrier that i just left yelling at him it is over. Somehow, he yell out for me not leave and he will do whatever i want, i’m guessing he is afraid of losing me too. So i turn around and listed a bunch things for him to promise and do if i stay with him:
1. He must quit WOW forver
2. Delete his character
3. Unintall WOW on his computer and then reboot his computer in front of me
4. Give me the disc to destroy
5. For the next 3 years, he is going to give me a gift at a value of $15 every month because if he could afford to pay $15 to play WOW every month, he should be able to afford to buy me something worth $15 every month.
6. Help around the house
7. Cook me either breakfast, lunch, or dinner once a week
8. Must attend all his classes and do all his homework
9. Treat me with respect at all times
10.If he ever breaks any of these promises, im walking out on him with no warnings

To all the ladies out there who has a boyfriend/husband who is addicted to WOW or similiar games, confront him when they are done playing no matter how late it is. tell him that you made up your mind to leave him because of his addiction to WOW. Tell him how you feel, if you still have feeling for him tell him and if you still doesnt see them then he isnt worth your time. Ask him if he knows why he is at fault, if he doesnt then leave him cause he will always think that he is right. He has to want to and promise to change, if not LEAVE. Just give one shot to see if he cares about you and if he could give up the game for you. NEVER EVER ATTEMPT TO TALK TO HIM WHEN HE IS PLAYING THE GAME, TALK AFTER HE IS DONE PLAYING THE GAME!

To those people who keep saying for us to play the game in order to understand how he feels about the game, that is one stupid advice. DONT NOT DO THIS IF YOU KNOW YOU DONT LIKE TO PLAY NEVER ENDING GAMES. Honestly, i like video games but not game like WOW. I used to have a WOW account, i used to think that if he wont quit then i mind as will join it. I started to learn that WOW is a really bad addiction game, so i quit and told myself never ever go near it again. By joining the club, it shows him that you like what he is doing and that is why you want to try it out. He will use this against you if you do not like his addiction later on.

Wow Player

On April 23, 2008 at 4:14 am


Just from reading your post I hope he does leave, then he can have all the time he wants to play his game, even though wow takes up time it doesn’t ask for attention….it doesnt fight…it doesnt cry and not only that what makes you think hes going to do everything on that list? Women I swear they always want to be put on a pedestal. WoW is a form of entertainment kind of like that crappy show you girls watch oprah? watch it every damn day at the same time, and or other shows? do you hear us ing about it? NO we don’t care. If you really want to hold on to your man treat him right and maybe he wouldn’t look elsewhere for entertainment.


On April 25, 2008 at 3:29 pm

Wife rant on WoW @ http://www.spriteskeeper.com
…good tips on what we’ve done to balance out WoW life and family life.
check it out, welcome ur comments.

See ya on the game!
- “Crixxo”


On April 30, 2008 at 7:03 pm

I personally find that WoW is only an addicting game if you make it. I only play a few hours on the weekend, and only casually, and its working out fine for me. Just a matter of time management.


On May 9, 2008 at 12:57 pm

“As a wife of a WOW addict I would like to say something. My husband has been playing WOW since it’s initial release. My husband and I have been married for almost three years. He plays WOW everyday he possibly can and until the wee hours of the morning. I know exactly where this wife is coming from. We used do stuff together too. I was miserable because WOW seemed to be controlling his life, until I decided to do something about it. Now I’m a lvl 65 shadow priest and in a week or two I’ll be 70 and keyed for Kara. He takes me places now. We ran SP last night, and mana tombs the day before, and all of our friends and their spouses play to so we spend all night with our friends. Of course we both make time in our schedules to clean the house and take care off other matters, but we are very very happy!”

Most intelligent response I’ve ever heard. What is with the selfishness of women these days demanding that we spend all of our time doing what they want and when they want it. What happened to companionship and the sharing of interests and ideas? Having a husband is not about having a slave that will bow to your every will. Marriage is about giving and taking. So many women are not mature enough to even understand this basic concept of life. I have many friends who are married to women that are exactly like this. If it’s not WoW it’s another video game, school, work, friends or whatever. If you bring this type of attitude to a relationship you can just get out as far as I’m concerned. I can pay for sex when I need it.


On May 10, 2008 at 8:23 pm

I totally agree with WOW ruining their marriage.

My recently EX boyfriend was so totally addicted to the game. We fought about it really bad. He literally played 24/7. Wouldn’t ever go to bed. When I woke up he would either be still playing or sleeping sitting up in the chair. One time while he was playing he fell asleep with a cigarette and almost burned my house down.

I hate WOW and him.


On May 13, 2008 at 7:37 pm

First off, yes I play WoW. I am 17, play hockey, tennis and hang out with my friends. I get pretty good marks in school (80′s) and am looking at a University for the future.

I love the game, and may have even been a bit addicted when I began playing, but that quickly cleared over.

Yes, its is a great game, yet to trash my body, my family, friends and everything I hold dear for a game is just foolish. I play it, sometimes till 12 or 2 in the morning. But I never go over 2-3 hrs because then I either lose interest or force myself to get of my ass and do soemthing productive.

The wife in this story did not proceed accordingly. Yes her husband was quiet obsessed yet wanting all his time for her isn’t the way to go. Through relationships I’ve figured that finding common ground and interests saves a lot of stress.


On June 26, 2008 at 1:17 pm

I met my husband through WoW, we were in the same raiding guild, though we didn’t start chatting until after he had left for another server, where I eventually joined him. We couldn’t be more happier! <3 Gamer Hubbie!

bitter biotch

On July 2, 2008 at 10:08 pm

my perfect, my knight in shinning armor, my wow addict. He hit me when I confronted him to stop. He still plays, he hides it. I agree, its taken over. Hope he has fun with it when he is alone. Hope it keeps him warm at night. Hope it wipes his ass when he is disabled. Hope it helps him to respawn when he croaks because I wont be there!


On July 28, 2008 at 8:25 pm

I have been in a 12 year relationship with a gamer. When we first met it was fun we played games together on playstation ect, no PC games. Then we had our first son and he started playing on-line RPG’s for the PC it was not too bad at first until WOW came out. He bought the game when it was first relased and has not let it go since. He now has all the WOW books, figures, newsletters, and even the game board. He plays WOW as soon as he gets home from work until early hours of the morning and the cycle repeats. Of course, the weekend is worse he catches up on sleep lost during the week due to WOW and then plays ALL weekend. He has not only neglected me his wife, his two sons, and all household/yard work duties. Our sons are now 9 and 7 years old and they even comment that they hate WOW and wish daddy would play with them instead of that “dumb game”, it breaks my heart. My husband wont even leave the house except to go to work, he spends no time with our sons or me. I do every thing by my self and work as nurse 40 hours a week as well. He no longer helps with the bills, the lawn, trash, household duties, or being a husband and dad. I have seriously been considering divorce and have contacted a lawyer, but this has not even phased him. I guess he is used to my empty threats and WOW is much more important. I dont know what else to do, my heart breaks for my sons. We did go to counseling for sometime, things would get better for a while then back to the same thing. Our problems all stem from WOW but the chooses not to see this, he says its just me “complaining all the time”. Any advise? Desperate wife and WOW has ruined our lives. :sad:

Former Wow Player

On August 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm

I used to play Wow to the point that I missed out on other things. Never again. I quit and started graduate school and never looked back. Sure I have friends emailing me all the time asking me to come back. I’ll only start online gaming again when Diablo III comes out and I can play solo on my own time. :wink:

Former Wow Player

On August 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm

Oh and for the record, NOBODY can play Wow without net access. Want to shake things up a bit? Miss the bill or have it shut off! :twisted: I’m a single mom and I’ll never let Wow suck my life away again.


On August 28, 2008 at 6:34 am

I would have left his ass too.

My bf and I both play WOW but only an hour or two a day a few days a week, every now and then we’ll make an afternoon of it.

But if he ever starts choosing WOW over sex, I’m out!

With any addiction, the addict has to WANT to change. Obviously he didn’t. Maybe there were other things going on but no matter what other issues they had, gaming 40+ hours a week is enough to scare anyone away.
Hello, real life??


On September 4, 2008 at 4:44 pm

As the subject of this article, I want to post this for anyone who reads my story and is in a similar situation. Happy endings are possible, even if they’re not what you’d expect.

My relationship was happy and strong before introducing WoW into it, and Peter and I often gamed together before he spent all his time on WoW. Peter’s addiction to WoW and the problems that arose from it was the catalyst for our separation. I asked for counseling on multiple occasions. In fact, I tried everything I could to save my marriage–and I do mean EVERYTHING, short of destroying the computer! In my case, I had to remove myself from the situation for Peter to realize the destructiveness of his addiction.

But he did.

Shortly after our separation, Peter began moving away from WoW and and made an effort to spend time with me and tell me he was choosing me over the game. He even asked me to return to our relationship. We see and talk to each other now more than we ever did when he played WoW. For now, I’m happy to have my best friend living back on Earth instead of in Azeroth. :) I’m really proud of him for working through this.

So there’s hope for the addiction… Unfortunately, it may take drastic measures before the addictee realizes the severity of the addiction. Not every situation will be like mine, but there can be a light at the end of the tunnel. I have loved Peter for 16 years, and leaving wasn’t my way of giving up on him, it was my way of helping him.

I’ll also say, we’re looking forward to playing StarCraft II together. ;)




On September 4, 2008 at 4:52 pm

Thank you Jocelyn for setting the record straight! It was hard to know what exactly happened when Yahoo did not disclose the full story. I also imagine it was hard having the whole world privy to your business.

We wish you and Steve nothing but the best… always. :-)


On September 9, 2008 at 6:57 pm

all i can say is, if she couldnt even get tv time with him, how is she gonna get him to go to therapy?

also, u have to remember that since she was a blizzard employee, he wasnt having to pay subscriptions to the game.

Furthermore, if she spoke up when this unfortunate circumstance happened, it might have been avoided.

im a big time wow gamer and i know how addicting it is.
for how long they have been married, all she needed to do was tell him if he wants to continue with a searious marrage, to give her a call, then she just needs to get her stuff and leave. her parents would prolly let her move in if they heard the situation. he would end up getting the power shut off and other bad things, then he would come to his senses and they might of then had fixxed their marrage.

just remember tho, once they get to the point of gettin on the game the moment they get home or wake up, that person needs to be cut off from the game.


On September 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm

My husband was addicted to games years before we met. Considering that I have a 70 and run BT/Hyjal with my husband’s alt (yep, his ALT), I’ve put forth a great deal of effort into getting us “together time” on his terms. However, the effort is not often reciprocated. Why can’t we spend Saturday together OUTSIDE? Are badge-run Kara’s and ZA’s necessary? What’s a girl to do? I do all the housework and let him eat at his computer. HE’S the one who gained 50 pounds, not me.

Female observer

On October 29, 2008 at 4:01 pm

If you play this game for more than 3 hours a day, sorry its an addiction. It adds nothing to your real life and is escapism for 3 hours almost everyday for just an average gamer. If you need to attack her blame on wow with this guys addictive personality traits, well yea its so painfully obvious hes an addictive personality who plays wow for 8-16 hours a day, give me @#$@ING BREAK. But the lines are horrible blurred for most wow players (defending their 3-5 hour a night “hobby”). Its like watching self inflicted castration watching someone sit in front of a screen and get their self satisfaction through virtual “gear”. I say this with decency and respect for all the individuals out their that are gamers, don’t “get a life” but expand your life instead of contracting it into a little room where you spend 50 percent of your free time.


On November 4, 2008 at 8:20 am

I got rid of my boyfriend of 8 yrs today, again, this time for good due to this wow game. He would not do anything else, he became rude, hateful, and would not go to work. He is addicted bad and did not care if I pay for the bills, or if I was cleaning house, It was all about wow and getting him to do anything was like pulling teeth. :sad: I tried to get in the game with him but he had too much to hide, :evil: I did not have vent and chat rooms like he did. So heres the bad part, he had my password but I was not allowed to have his? He hid his vent chat friends from me and I knew this Gainni,bubbleelf and earthwormjim toons of his ment trouble for me… He kept switching relems and acting weird so today I said I have bills to pay and I’m going to give myself a stroke worrying about his vent chat rooms b.s and so I told him to go back to his daddys and goodbye. :mad: He did not even care…my feelings were 2nd to wow! I found out they cypersex alot durning raids and I could not even begin to tell u with who, its made it easier for men to cheat and I just had enough of noone to talk to and being lonely inless I got screamed at b/c he was busy with wow :?: I tried and did the best I could but everyone that gave me advice said he just does not care Tonya wake up. :idea: I had no choice, I could not wait to be important enough to him anymore. :???:


On November 6, 2008 at 6:58 pm

i think your silly your wife gave lots of chances and you blew it you jurk

Gamer X

On November 10, 2008 at 7:55 pm

You have just lost a precious gift in your real life peter. If i knew someone was addicted and that could cause such a serious damage on u, i would have even let the pc on fire rather than the dumbass way of throwing cd into the trash. These retards need to get a life. I feel sorry for her.


On November 13, 2008 at 5:32 pm

I am a wow gamer and i am not addicted to it.I was told repeatedly by people that you cant play without getting addicted.Thats not true,i have quit playing for a year,played a little,then quit playing another 6 months.someone can get addicted to tv,xbox,and many other things its not just wow. :twisted:


On November 16, 2008 at 3:45 pm

I admit its hard having my husband play WoW, we have been married 5 yrs but he only started playing a month ago. Still, sometimes he does stay up rather late playing it which is particularly hard for me at the moment because right now we live at my grandfathers house in 2 rooms though we can be in the rest of the house, our part is just the two rooms. He doesn’t get home from work till 1 am at the moment. Sometimes he gets snippy at me when I tell him to please come to bed ( his monitor keeps me awake) If we had our own place, which I hope we can in the new Year Wow will bother me less. I do manange to pull him away from it and we do stuff. I like games a lot too, I play them also but I can hit Save and walk away. Wow doesn’t seem to have a real save option,though you can leave it or a Pause button. He wants me to play but its just not my thing. If I played our living space would become overcrowded with dirty clothes and dishes. But there are a lot worse things he could do in the middle of the night on his machine and he doesn’t and I am happy for that. Wow keeps you out of trouble in that aspect.


On November 16, 2008 at 7:54 pm

Does this guy even read these comments :?: :???:

Broken Hearted

On November 20, 2008 at 4:32 pm

This story matches mine…except it’s Second Life (SL) instead of WoW. He actually met someone in this virtual world and started talking to her in real life. How can I compete with someone who is addicted? I’m waiving my white flag.


On November 21, 2008 at 10:56 pm

OMG guys. yeah. I play wow. Mintae, silver hand server. might only be 36, but I play. ^.^

to all you ass hole guys who think that she didn’t try enough, SCREW yourselves, please. =) I grew up with my MOTHER play Ever Quest and Ever Quest 2 and then wow. through middle school and high school, if I ever asked her for anything while she was on any of those games, she’d look at me and say ‘what is so ing important that you had to interupt me from this!?” and it usually wasn’t even a raid! I mean seriously; if you actually do that to your child, imagine you, nine years old, wanting mommy’s or daddy’s attention, and getting screamed at because he’s playing a video game.

I play WoW, but not that obsessively. I quit for 5 months for schooling. Now i get back on to say hi to friends and kill things in battlegrounds. it amuses me if I don’t have anything better to do.
get over it.

<3 moi

Sick of WOW

On November 24, 2008 at 1:26 pm

Ok so I came on here just to see what everyone else has said. I also need to vent out to someone because when I vent to the person I am trying to reach I get no reaction and so at least maybe someone will see this and maybe change something in there lives. I am with this guy and we haven’t been together that long. At first he came out and said he likes to play this game wow like 3 nights a week no biggy, he seemed to actually want to spend more time with me so when he said he was going to play I had no problems with it. So we end up moving in with eachother and for the past month it has been non-stop almost everyday I am getting to the point where I can’t take it anymore. I am so sick of trying to tell him how I fell and how I don’t want to come 2nd to a stupid game. He always has some slick response to calm me down at the time but guess what the next day it is the same BS over again then last night he actually turned it around on me saying that he didn’t play all day because he wanted to spend time with me because he might be leaving to go work for the next few days out of town so I requested that we actually spend the night just the 2 of us and he was in que at the time I said do you really need to play tonite he says nope I said well it would be nice to just hang out tonite and got no response, I had to give my daughter a bath and when I came out he was on and playing so I got a little upset and hurt that it didn’t seem to matter that I had asked him to not play just one nite. So he ended up playing for 4 hours and then got off around 11 so then we watched a movie and that was it for the nite. Then this morning at 9 he gets up and went right to logging in and has been there all day it is now 3:50pm and nothing has been acomplished for the day. I am at my wits end and do not know what else to do or say??? :mad:


On November 26, 2008 at 11:23 am

Its quiet sad really, for all those “guys” out their that are so weak mentally that they let a GAME run their lives. And to giveup for that. Such a shame :P To all you ladies out there, if u got some bf or husband like that And youv tried talking to them / getting help and even mentioning breakup and they still dont budge, Its time to leave. Its no different from people on crack, (an addiction) if youv tried up to that point and they still put the game before you. I have tons of friends who play wow and alot of them are addicted, I myself only play a couple hours a night (randomly) but my wife and other more important real life events come first. I must applaud blizzard though, to the mastermind who created such a trap for the weak minded. Its like the manufactors of energy drinks who are slipping alcohol in the drinks and not listing it in the ingredients. The author of this article is 100% correct though. It is not blizzards fault, you cannot blame them for providing it, it is the gamers fault. Exactly like the fat people who tried sueing mc donalds for selling fast food, for offering it. COME ON PEOPLE, NOBODY IS FORCING U TO BUY IT, TO EAT IT OR TO PLAY IT ITS UR OWN FU*#KING CHOICE. And wow is no exception. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOTHA F*CKAS


On December 4, 2008 at 9:02 am

You’re a retard if you think that addiction is the same as doing something a lot, because it’s fun and you’re having a good time doing it! Someone said something like “all the friends I have, who started playing it are still playing”……..maybe that’s because it’s a really great game that’s fun to play. I’m sure you have something you do a lot too, because you think it’s fun. Anytime you have 10 mill. people doing something, there’s bound to be some extreme cases. You can abuse anything. There’s nothing better than a nice cold beer on a hot summer day, but if I drink 30 beers every morning then it’s probably not so good. Live responsibly and don’t go around blaming everything…ESPECIALLY when you have no clue of what you’re blaming!!!!!

I’m out, WoW is calling;)


On December 4, 2008 at 9:09 am

Well said Serulin!!! I play WoW too and think it’s the coolest game ever, but I don’t go nuts and stuff. It’s just a cool game I play for some hours here and there during the week. Better than watching crap shows on TV.


On December 19, 2008 at 11:31 am

I lived practically the exact same experience. My husband and I were so happy and in love. I even played WoW for time to get closer to bond with him and understand it, but that was before he went overboard. I can relate to everything she said. My husband playing EVERY moment of the day, giving up friends, family, finances, and eventually losing his job. I begged for counseling and went by myself would he would not go. After I left him he apparently went to counselor and got his life together. But he wouldn’t do it when his family and I beged him to. I, also hate WoW.


On April 16, 2009 at 12:25 pm

Its true buddy,, it is an additive thing… and its here to stay.. more and more ppl are entering the world of MMORPGs and getting addicted.. and it affects their real life too..


On June 6, 2009 at 2:40 pm

My husband is addicted to WOW and it is putting a great strain on our relationship. We have other problems in our relationship and I know that he is playing so much WOW to escape from all of that but it makes things 1000 times worse. I thought eventually he would stop playing so much like computer games in the past but 4 years later he has shown no hint of cutting down on his WOW time. He plays everyday unless there is some unavoidable event which stops him from playing and when he doesn’t get to play he is tense and snappy.
I think that individuals have to take responsibility for their actions but surely the companies who design games to be addictive so that they keep people paying their subscription have some responsibility for the situations they are creating.


On June 7, 2009 at 2:09 pm

It’s a sad story, similar to many I have heard over at our forums.
When you are deep into the WoW obsession, it’s so hard to look up and see what is going on in the real world.
The fantasy that the gamer creates becomes immensely rich and rewarding, and asking them to give it up for real life, can obviously be tough.
As it deepens, the gap between reality (becoming more problematic) and the fantasy world (becoming more powerful) widens.
I believe that MMO’s are highly addictive and damaging, and there needs to be a solution for gamers who feel trapped. That’s why I created a support site specifically for gamers who feel trapped and lost and want to get out.
Head on over and add your story.

No Name

On August 12, 2009 at 2:00 pm

My husband and I both play WOW…Let me tell you from experience we almost got divorced over the game…We have been married over 15 years. I know my husband and people to say that the game is not to blame is true in a sense, however it’s the most addictive game I have ever played in my life. He would even eat dinner at his computer while playing WOW…The issue is self control and what is important in his life otherwise the GAME WILL WIN.


On August 14, 2009 at 7:38 am

you are all losers.. wow is for losers

pocket watch

On August 25, 2009 at 10:18 pm

Alrighty folks time for a little rant from a WoW player (a non-idiotic WoW player)
Addiction runs in my family, both my moms and dads side, drugs on my moms (her siblings) and booze on my dads (just about everyone. I play WoW, however on my list of priorities its last on the list.
I have an addictive personality, usually in the form of games and caffeine (as such I have almost vowed never to drink…booze that is) I can play a game days at a time (examples are usually RPGS, morrowind, jade empire, mass effect and fable are examples of ones that really dug into me) then suffer from physical withdraw afterwords I still play them, but ONLY and ONLY if I have the time, I still will do my school work, hang out with friends, and get out of the way before I play. Gaming is my hobby, its what I do to relax, for example. After typing this, I am going to read a chapter of my phil 2100 text, then my work is done for the day. Then I will pay WoW for an hour or two to relax.

WoW is addictive, my brother almost failed a semester, got on academic probation because he played it so much, he has since graduated and only plays when he can, which might be 3 hours a week. WoW is addictive, but you have to a god damned fool to let it get a hold of you like that.

Fake Fakerson

On August 25, 2009 at 11:05 pm

Maybe he was playing WoW to escape his wife. We don’t know.


On September 17, 2009 at 10:13 pm

Had the same thing happen with one guy. I am on the computer quite a bit so I’m fairly understanding, but got to the point where the guy, who has a good degree, works at the mall and just plays WOW. He told me he was a huge family guy…not. Has no guy friends now at all. I should mention, he played when I met him. Took me a while to see how bad it was.


On October 21, 2009 at 7:12 am

Quit blaming WoW, I have played it myself, but I’d never give up anything special for a game. o.O

Now, if someone sets that to his priority, then that’s his choice, although, it’s not fair to defend him.

I don’t believe in “omg im addicted i want to stop but i cant”, I call it weakness.

Mike S.

On October 25, 2009 at 3:30 pm

See, this wouldn’t have happened if you downloaded RoM for him. (Runes of Magic)


On November 5, 2009 at 9:05 pm

Your stupid, and i dont really care if its 1 year after this comment, but you are STUPID. People can be freinds since there 7 and get married at the age of 24 and live happily for the rest of their lives, cause it happens every day ass hole. And his little divorce over WoW is an “Addiction” becuase why would he waste 9 months playing it none F***ing stop and then divorce his wife, huh?


On December 22, 2009 at 3:02 am

yep a real pain


On January 25, 2010 at 12:59 pm

She should of just started playing with him… that would of brought them closer and lots of fun, then eventually they will both be bored with the game and do other things..

Steven Gameplay Lee

On August 10, 2010 at 9:33 pm

That is seriously so sad. Anything can be an addiction… not just games. Hope the dude gets it right next time.


On September 10, 2010 at 9:38 pm

I love it when anytime someone says anything bad about world of warcraft people come out like vipers to defend this god aweful game. I played this game for 5 years and I finally broke the habit. And yes i let the game change me into a moody and nasty tempered person. I broke my discs and canceled my account and broke my authenticator.


On September 14, 2010 at 5:10 am

I agree that it’s ignorant to blame it all on WoW, but that doesn’t mean he was already addicted to drugs or has mental problems. I play WoW occasionally without being so obsessed with it. My brother WAS obsessed, but I said “play only an hour a day” and problem solved!

ipad free

On September 20, 2010 at 11:07 pm

I remember playing Monster Hunter when it was first released on the PS2 and really that game has nothing but grid. Alright there was not much levelling to do as it was all item based. That was something I did enjoy, but it did not provide a real open world on content to play with. That and the fact it was too much of a PVE game and had no concepts for PVP (not sure about the newer ones now). It was a good game just nothing to overtake WoW on. Right now the only real game that can be reasled to provide a sence of better playing expereience would be a GTA MMO that was built on a framework that would allow them to dynamically push more content into the world like the insides of buildings and new cities. Kinda like a Second life world (famework per say) on the GTA model, with a community structure that would allow us to provide and create the concepts of play, story as well as enjoyment. I can remember playing some Sci-fi MMOs some years back like Neocron and Anarchy Online where the in game news was generated by the fan base of the players instead of some DEV pushing more content into the game. When an MMO comes out like that and they can apply that concepts into the real worlds of stats and gameplay then I think we will have hit out limit. But sadly I know this can never happen as the amount of money to get an idea like this off the ground is more than what would be required to make the next World of Warcraft 2!

free ipad


On November 22, 2010 at 11:15 pm

WoW is only addicting to those who have something in their lives they want to escape from. I’ve played for 5 years only a couple hours at a time though because to me it’s a game.


On April 5, 2011 at 1:06 pm

my boyfriend of 3 years play and we get into fights over it and i hate it.we never can do anything no more.we have a 1 year old and he dont even play with her than when im at school or work he got to watch her on his own and the whole time im at school or work im worrying about something happening to her cause he so into the game so idk how much more of this i can take i think they should set like a tiime some how of how long they can play and the price 15 for a stupid game when i can use that on my daughter.


On May 10, 2011 at 2:59 pm

WoW is addicting. I went from casual gamer to hardcore within a year of playing. Like most games Blizzard produces, the concepts are simple. In the end, those simple concepts become increasingly difficult. I sat back and wondered why my skill wasn’t matching up to those around me, so I put more time into it. How did I get to that point? Small rewards. The more I got, the more they led to me be recognized as a player (every gamer fears being called a noob). As time goes by Blizzard implements changes in their time consuming reward system and throws you off track. Most players resent them for it, but giving up a time valuable/rewarded character is difficult. The game is down right wrong. It shouldn’t take hours upon hours for a person being lured in to get gratification. The only good part is the chat function which sucks you in even more. Avoid this game like the plague. You’ll most definitely be better off. The closest thing I can compare it to is a casino. You’ll lose everything after being rewarded mildly, in hopes to getting the big pay off.

Vorrin @ fizzcrank

On May 16, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Hey, I play a ton of wow too. Much more than I should. I’m married for 3 years and my wife and I constantly talk out our problems. Despite the fact that I’ve gotten a little out of shape by comparison (still practice martial arts and go running every day), wow has not harmed my marriage.

As much fun as I have, I can always tell people in game “I got dc’d” when my wife needs my attention. It’s just not that important. I still go to college, pay the bills, and do my share of chores. I still take my wife out on dates. She tried playing and didn’t like it (not enough of a gamer to grind), but she doesn’t resent me for it and even tries to talk about in game stuff because she knows I like it.

When I felt I was playing too much, I set up parental controls on myself, and weekly play time reports…the game shuts off with no warning if I go over my limit, so I have a strong incentive not to get to that point.

What happened here to me looks like an over all weakness in the marriage, and one of the 50% of our divorce rate just filling in statistics. People don’t take marriage as seriously as they should and don’t discipline themselves to make it work.

Also…this is why I’m not in a “raiding” guild. Those people are nuts. Pvp takes much less commitment. :)


On August 8, 2011 at 11:30 am

I started playing W.o.W. 2 months ago. From then I couldn
t stop playing!! It was all perfect before I started playing!! I was just a little bit bored! The next weeks I didnt go to school and didnt write the exam although I could have passed it without even learning those 3 weeks. I wanted to level up in WoW!!!1
After 3 weeks I was level 80 (from 1!). Then my holidays begun and I visited my parents. After I came back I realised how bad it was to play W.o.W.

now it’s deinstalled. 3 weeks of addiction. 1 month clean ;>
W.o.W. Is indeed great fantastic game. But you shouldn’t never recommend it to anyone. (everyone who writes here has played it, i think).

(coming to this thread because I was looking for a blizzard employee)


On August 8, 2011 at 11:31 am

I started playing W.o.W. 2 months ago. From then I couldn
t stop playing!! It was all perfect before I started playing!! I was just a little bit bored! The next weeks I didnt go to school and didnt write the exam although I could have passed it without even learning those 3 weeks. I wanted to level up in WoW!!!1
After 3 weeks I was level 80 (from 1!). Then my holidays begun and I visited my parents. After I came back I realised how bad it was to play W.o.W.

now it’s deinstalled. 3 weeks of addiction. 1 month clean ;>
W.o.W. Is indeed great fantastic game. But you shouldn’t never recommend it to anyone. (everyone who writes here has played it, i think).

(coming to this thread because I was looking for a blizzard employee)


On October 1, 2011 at 9:41 am

Okay, I am on the side of the wife here.

My boyfriend is completely addicted to this game.

So… Tell me PLAYERS of WOW. What is it really? Do the relationships become so close on the game that you don’t need any REAL LIFE conversation or physical affection?

Do people really emotionally cheat on this game?

What a disgrace. The graphics on this game are horrid and I am not a regular attendee to the Medieval Fair. :P

Lazy Waysef

On October 13, 2011 at 2:33 pm

@Ashley and various assorted people (idk I read them all in one sitting)

It’s quite a long post so I separated into paragraphs and tried to stay on topic so people who don’t care about a particular area of my argument can skip on ahead. Skip to the ********* if you want to read about addiction and a little test to figure out if you’re significant other fits the model. I don’t know if I totally agree with it but its currently accepted (my grievances about it are listed below the seven criteria.

As an avid gamer, I feel I can field this one.

First off, I wouldn’t call anyone that exclusively plays WoW a hardcore gamer or hardcore RPG player and this is potentially the problem. Playing WoW first is like taking crack before smoking pot. It is highly addictive for many reasons. The main one is the social aspect of it, aka raids, chatting, cybersex, etc. Now I don’t know too many people who indulge in the cybersex but I assume that’s correct since cybersex can be found on any online thing (throwing some sexful nerd candy night elves and giving them dance commands just seals the deal).

The main problem lies with the fact that Blizzard made it essentially impossible to do the raids if even just a couple of people decide to skip that week. This essentially puts a lot of pressure on every person as nobody wants to be the one who ruined everyone’s fun. Furthermore your raid buddies will turn on you and kick you out of their group. Do it too many times and you get a rep for being “that guy” and pretty much no one wants to raid with you, locking you out of the upper end gear (its a little like middle school). This is unlike Diablo 2, Blizzard’s WoW RPG predecessor in which people could adventure alone or in a group and items could drop anywhere, not just from certain hard to get to, go out of your way for two hours enemies.

WoW, like Diablo 2 and various other roguelikes (idk if WoW qualifies as a roguelike but for the purpose of this observation it certainly behaves like one) features many items in the game that make it far more interesting. As you adventure you find slightly better and better items (but only slightly) which you then want to try out and then you find another and then you look up at the clock and its 2 am.

Now if you’ve been gaming a long time, then you’re aware of the 2 am effect and remember to check the clock every once in a while and call people to make them think you still care about them lol. Also, you’re likely far better at multitasking games and other things since you probably went through the whole doing nothing but gaming phase when you were like 8 and it was pretty much average and mitigated by constant parental vigilance.

As for chatting, I’ve never found new people all that interesting. Going to the bars bores me to tears…Unless I’m incredibly bored, I stare straight ahead on the subway. I pretty much like my friends and don’t really go out of my way to bring new friends in. I have a girlfriend so I have no interest in meeting girls. However, most guys I have met seem to derive some worth from being popular and well-liked or meeting new women and making the “conquest” of getting them to like you, making out, having sex, etc. etc. so I guess that drives them to be further engrossed into this game.

Also, a lot of the time, someone regularly engages in activities that bore them without even knowing it until something really fun comes along. For example, if some crappy medieval peasant came to our time, I’m sure he’d forget all about his ty feudal serf lifestyle and his broad shouldered plague-ridden wife (not that I’m making that allegation about Jocelyn, just a rather extreme example). Some people spend so much time working and trying to make money that they don’t really do a lot of fun crap until their lives get settled.

Maybe your boyfriend isn’t that emotional so physical affection is a low priority for him and his “get in get out” attitude towards sex? Maybe he just likes WoW a lot?

Addiction to substances is currently defined with the following seven criteria. If a person meets 3 or more, then that person is addicted. I pointed out in the class that featured these that tolerance is inherent in all substances and activities, which the lecturer actually agreed with (despite the rest of the class laughing and thinking I was just making excuses for being some rando drug addict), so I say 2 or more of the remaining 6.

1) Tolerance – Either needing more to get the same effect or diminished effect with the same amount.

*Sure I’d say nothing is as fun as the early days and gets more and more attention later.

2) Withdrawal – Either exhibiting strange behaviors when pulled away from the addictive item/activity, or seeking a similar “high”

*Maybe carrying around WoW manuals everywhere or compulsively playing other games when WoW servers go down? Angry, moody when unable to play etc.

(3) The substance is often taken in larger amounts or over a longer period than was intended.

*Actually pretty much any new gamer that starts with WoW since most new gamers don’t know that in RPGs it takes a while to get anything done and probably don’t intend to play for years. Use your judgement with this one.

(4) There is a persistent desire or unsuccessful efforts to cut down or control substance use.

*This is generally the only thing that people think defines addiction. Pretty self explanatory.

(5) A great deal of time is spent in activities necessary to obtain the substance (such as visiting multiple doctors or driving long distances), use the substance (such as chain smoking) or recover from its effects.

*Percentage of free time used. Think more on how much effort is spent getting out of events, making up crap excuses, troubleshooting game glitches, planning raids with friends, etc.

(6) Important social, occupational, or recreational activities are given up or reduced because of substance use.

*Self Explanatory…but rather than reduced, let’s say significantly reduced since doing anything technically reduces time for other things.

(7) The substance use is continued despite knowledge of having a persistent or recurrent physical or psychological problem that is likely to have been caused or exacerbated by the substance.

*Carpal tunnel, lowered immune function, getting fat…these are the most likely to follow the gamer lifestyle since addicted gamers generally spend little time preparing food and even less time moving around heh.

Here’s my take:
Really though, short of not going to work/financial losses, I think a lot of this is blown out of proportion. Everyone seems to be an expert on what makes up a healthy life, but no one can tell you what to do if you’re an adult and you live in a democracy as long as you stay within the law and don’t harm others. Let’s suppose you’re addicted and can’t stop playing, you’re forced to do something you don’t want to do. Let’s suppose you want to play and everyone keeps having interventions for you and won’t leave you alone, you’re forced to do something you don’t want to do. What is the real difference?

Also, real is somewhat overrated. Sorry but raising kids sounds boring as , as does married life. I enjoy seeing my mom, dad, and sister and even some of my cousins in small doses, but aside from these, visiting with family sucks balls.
I either do or at least have done many other activities. I was actively involved with Kung Fu for five years (gave it a fair chance) and realized that knowing how to fight or fighting is pretty much a waste of time and usually someone inevitably gets injured and has to stop or you actually use your kung fu and get arrested ha. I play guitar but its sort of on the wane these days. I’m not a big reader of non fiction, I like to get my stories in video game form.
Going out is a waste of money and time, people stand around pretending to hear each other, talk to the same friends they came with largely, and then go home feeling popular. Pretty much my only motivation for going out was to meet women.
As for my girlfriend, she’s fun and all but I can only take so much of her and her emotional whatevers and “i did this today” stories.
The rest of my time is hence spent on RPGs and video games and I’m quite happy with the decision. It’s not like I didn’t give these things a fair chance, it’s not like I was bad at them (certainly not all of them) and got frustrated, it was just a preference.

I frequently would ditch friend hangouts in college and even studying for the game, but the friends I ditched wound up moving away and the tests or homeworks I may have effed over weren’t big enough to stop me from graduating, getting a good job, and getting into a post grad program. People skip class all the time, but when its because of a video game and not to nurse a hangover, its a big problem. I don’t really see what’s so great about real life, and why certain people seem to lump going out drinking, smoking weed with people (an activity I quite enjoy), playing sports, watching sports, or watching tv as “real” but not video games. Its not like I actually think I’m in the game or anything. It’d probably suck to be in the game, my dragon wound would get gangreen or maybe I would die a slow death starving in some pit down in a dungeon that no one will ever venture into, sounds pretty crappy to me… If I lived there, I’d probably buy a gaming system and play 21st century, I’d be a level 70 lawyer and ditch my farming activities to pretend to win cases.

Now I think why we keep hearing stories about WoW and not other games is its actually NOT a hardcore game, its very accessible and easy. The classes are easy, the end game gear is pretty easy to choose, there’s little creativity with the stats and skills. The players I’ve met in real life run the gamut from nerdlinger, pothead, parents, businessman or woman, and sorority girl (this is actually a huge one, they all get on and raid together). The graphics aren’t horrible, they are just cartoony.

I actually don’t play this game at all. I have tried playing on friends’ accounts, I’ve done a raid or two, done some quests. It’s certainly a good game, I just don’t want to pay $15/mo when there’s non subscription games that hold my attention better (morrowind, diablo 2, neverwinter nights, icewind dale 2, warcraft 3 Dota, torchlight, titan quest, the list goes on…). In every last one of these games, there are way more unique characters, more min maxing, it just generally takes more skill to plan out a character in them as opposed to having it basically done for you by blizz.

Oh and finally, I don’t get the whole “the game never ends” thing. That’s just hype… The game ends when you get to whats called the end game. That’s like saying torchlight never ends because there’s a dungeon with infinite levels. Sure it never ends, but it sure gets repetitive…

Anyway, sorry for the length and don’t know why I posted on this old ass thread anyway ha. Maybe I’ll cut and paste it somewhere more recent, or maybe I’m just not the person to be giving people advice on how to prioritize their time.

Damian van Rossum

On February 29, 2012 at 7:34 am




On July 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm

This story is 4 years old, though I thought that someone like me may read it even now, You know maybe a permanent ban could solve his problem ;) in my case someone stole my account over a year ago and then it seems that guy had started a fight of calling names , …. in-game which led to my permanent ban ofcI didn’t even receive a notification email about it, as my email address had been changed & I didn’t know what’s wrong! My emails got neglected from Blizzard’s side for several week, As I couldn’t start what I had done in that game over 3 years I just ignored it and never returned to the game, after a year and half, I gave another try and opened a ticket but this time they made it clear that they will never ever give that account back to me. U know what ? Frankly, they set me free that’s my feeling about it, Real world ain’t that bad to enjoy it at all.


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