File-N-Forget Podcast Episode 13: Yuletide Gaming

It’s time once again for the File-N-Forget Podcast. This week, Shawn and Ron discuss several of the games that have come out recently, and offer up a few thoughts on each of them. Listen in as they discuss Assassin’s Creed, Call of Duty 4, Rock Band, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Tabula Rasa, Kane & Lynch and Uncharted in our holiday game roundup.

As usual, there’s a Rant & Rave section, and a mention of this week’s FileFront Frag Night.

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15 Comments on File-N-Forget Podcast Episode 13: Yuletide Gaming

erathoniel

On December 8, 2007 at 12:35 pm

There was an old freeware game called Metal Gear Santa that was fun, though it doesn’t really relate to this. I would think they’d have something on holiday related games, though. Still, I would like to hear about Uncharted. Though I probably will never get a PS3, so it’s not really worth it.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

On December 8, 2007 at 9:05 pm

No mention of the GTA IV trailer? For Shame…

Shawn Sines

On December 8, 2007 at 9:14 pm

Why would we mention vaporware?? :)

Sorry.. couldn’t resist.. but seriously we were looking to talk about the things we’ve been playing and our impressions. GTA IV is at least 3 months from being real.. and from my perspective I’m not interested.. I left the franchise after Vice City. I’m bored with being a gangster pimp rapist murderer who steals cars and kills cops.

Joelteon7

On December 8, 2007 at 9:58 pm

I own a 360 and I have no intention of buying GTA 4…does this make me wrong in the head?

Anyhow, good show as always. Perhaps to solve the loud children problem, maybe you guys should host from one location and get the kiddies to play Rock Band/Guitar Hero? It’d solve a few problems and give the Podcast an aire of background music. No need to thank me, but if you must, I can e-mail you back details :mrgreen:

As a suggestion for a theme though, I’d like to hear you guys discuss what it means to be next-gen now? Since Will Wright talked about the Wii being the only next-gen console, it got me thinking if perhaps next-gen does now need to change from being doubling graphics to better ways of gaming. I don’t know if it was still Wright who gave the example, but they said that Gears of War could have been done on the original xbox. Okay, it wouldn’t have looked as pretty, but in essence, the gameplay could’ve been done on the xbox. Few games seem to utilize the peak performance from each unit and rendering the new consoles kinda pointless. A couple of companies said they are taking advantage (the Battlefield Bad Company team stands out in particular, saying “we wanted to make a game that truly couldn’t be done on previous gen consoles”) but not enough to really make a difference. Intertwined, the biggest argument could be, even though the Wii is innovating, it’s BASICALLY the Gamecube just a little bit better. Is that innovation enough to justify it as next-gen?

For me, the last biggest jump was from 2d to 3d and then each stage before that. Each step from 3d to Wii (if you will) has still clung to graphical enchancements just like its predecessors, but perahps due to the already high standard, makes less impact on us.

Just be interested in hearing what you guys have to say in that. Could spark in interesting (and of course, flaming) debate.

Joelteon7

On December 8, 2007 at 10:00 pm

*back = bank.

It’s late, I’m ill…language goes down the drain, sorry (goes for every other spelling mistake too..I really should proof-read more).

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

On December 8, 2007 at 10:55 pm

You could have at least said “Yeah, I like the new trailer” or “No, i didn’t like it”

You have to admit, its one of the most anticipated games in a long time, and any media on it is news worthy.

Shawn Sines

On December 9, 2007 at 1:08 am

Maybe I’m remiss S.T.A.L.K.E.R, but I generally avoid anything GTA IV related. I’ve not even watched the trailer. I also avoid even looking at any of the news items covering it here or anywhere. I don’t care for the concept anymore, not since I got to see the “Grandma Theft Auto” preview at E3 this year..

“Wow. He can park a car and walk down the street.. how riveting. Oh and instead of an Italian mobster he’s Russian.. hmmph.”

I do agree it is highly anticipated but I don’t necessarily think it newsworthy when they put out a bunch of screenshots. The trailer – sure. Though as I said others here cover it with far more zest than I ever will so I leave them to it. I have my niche as well – industry related news no one cares about and MMO news it seems.

I know we’ll talk about it once it hits the street but until then its all magical unicorn stories to me.

Ron Whitaker

On December 9, 2007 at 1:13 am

Sorry, but I have to join Shawn in saying my excitement level for GTA IV is at zero, and that may be overestimating. Even before the pitiful demo we saw at E3, I was less than enthused. Now, I could care less.

I’m sure we’ll mention it once it comes out, but I doubt it’ll be because it’s innovative, new, and different.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

On December 9, 2007 at 1:33 am

Ok. At least now I understand your viewpoints on the issue. Thanks for clearing that up.

I’ll look forward to your opinions on the game when it is released however, I expect full coverage from FileFront!!!

Shawn Sines

On December 9, 2007 at 9:18 am

Sorry S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I hope that didn’t come off as too severe. I think we were just underwhelmed. If it can return the series to GTA III’s heyday I’ll be the first to jump up and down with joy. I love GTA III and to a lesser degree GTA:VC. GTA:SA had some interesting ideas but I didn’t enjoy the thug life aspects.. though committing Grand Theft Bicycle was always funny.

I like Rockstar’s games, I love the sandbox nature – I just expect it to evolve either in storytelling or approach. Adding more whores to beat won’t do that for me. A fancy new graphic engine won’t either. Shiny things don’t attract me like a gnome (much).

Please don’t construe my view as being negative on people who enjoy the games, I’m just watching and waiting to see if I become a fan again.

Shawn Sines

On December 9, 2007 at 9:23 am

@Joelton: Recording in one location may be problematic as we live about 250 miles apart. It may sound like we’re in the same room but that is only accomplished through the magics of the Intarwebs. We actually record using Ventrillo. I then go in and edit out the dead space between the comments and overlap them to make them feel more conversational. I hope the episodes are entertaining and I’d like to know what you think after the change of approach we’ve been taking lately with me doing the leading rather than Ron. I think we’re starting to get more comfortable with the format and technology.

I like your topic suggestion as usual. I think defining next-gen is a moving target and its like saying define happiness:) But it does make for an interesting debate and lots of flame-bait.

Joelteon7

On December 9, 2007 at 10:40 am

@ Shawn

I kinda figured that you guys weren’t too close to be able to do it in one room, as I can only imagine the kinda fun you could have what with emulated sounds you could play…oh for the whimsy nature! …I’m gonna stop suggesting stupid things like that :p

The format of the show is good. The only thing that erks me is the length; whilst this is usually just right, I want it to be longer, because it is good stuff. Besides, you get to talk about all the games that I don’t have over here (like Brawl when it comes out, because apparently Nintendo hates us Europeans for some…reason) giving me enough time to fully avoid it and to tell my friends to avoid it too.

Something that came to mind though; when the Insider on the FileFront network sites gets back live again, it might be prudent in the Gaming News section to provide a link to the weekly podcast. I think it fits in and would give more attention to GamingToday. I don’t know the numbers on this site, and whilst it clearly does get a lot of numbers, I think it’s deserving of a bit more.

And finally, I actually have a simple theme for a later podcast, but not too much later; File-N-Rember, a lookback at the more memorable gaming ‘stuff’ in 07. I see it as a feature length, round-table kinda thing with witty retorts about the the console wars, challenges to genre thrones (ET:QW to BF, CoD4/Bioshock to Halo etc.) and a compendium of best gaming moments from the year, including a nice little double Scarab fight, driving along an exploding planetoid into a ship hangar (was that last section designed purely for the Theatre?), manual piloting in Metroid, no-one on your frikkin’ team shooting the frikkin’ medic healing the frikkin’ heavy, the fact that there IS no cake and so on and so on…wait, were any of those NOT FPS’? Damn.

weclock

On December 9, 2007 at 10:55 am

Graphics alone do not make the jump from one gen to another.
simple hardware tweaks are ridiculous, it has to be a seriously game changing experience.

Halo 3 isn’t next gen, it could’ve been done on xbox 1.

Norbit

On December 9, 2007 at 11:50 am

“Graphics alone do not make the jump from one gen to another.”

I really dont understand what people are going on about with comments like that. Most of the people who say ‘thats not next gen’ are very similar to people who say ‘thats not art’. They are quick to say it isn’t next gen/art but they fail to specify exactly what their criteria is to be next gen/art thereby rendering their argument complete nonsense. Examples of ‘real’ next gen gaming leaps would be good. Examples of what exactly represents the leap from one generation to another if not graphics.

You mention that Halo 3 is not a next gen game because it could have been done on the Xbox. I doubt the Xbox is capable of running Halo 3 but is that your criteria? Are you saying a game has to be incapable of being played on last gen hardware to be considered next gen? If so then the vast majority if not all 360 and PS3 games are next gen. Or do you really think a next gen game has to be a ‘seriously game changing experience’?. If so there are very very few next gen games in the entire history of gaming. If you take the FPS genre for instance there hasn’t been too much in the way of a ‘seriously game changing experience’ since mouse & keyboard or online play were introduced.

weclock

On December 9, 2007 at 12:44 pm

I mean that the dynamics of the game, the elements of gameplay, all existed on the previous generation of console.

improved graphics doesn’t mean anything!
Not in this day and age, sure the jump from 2d to 3d was huge, but now that we’re here, there’s no where else for us to go in the graphics realm.

what makes a game next gen?
well, how it is played, what kind of story is portrayed, and how it functions.

Halo 3 was basically a map pack, texture upgrade, and multiplayer match-making upgrade. Sure there were a few new enemies and weapons, but the dynamics are all the same!