Friday Flame Wars: No More Generically Dark FPS Games?


Bethesda Softworks probably thought they were taking the world by storm on Wednesday, when they released the trailer for Wolfenstein: The New Order. They didn’t count on gaming elder statesman Warren Spector (Deus Ex, Epic Mickey). The Wolfenstein clip barely shows anything, but that didn’t stop Spector from taking it back behind the woodshed. In a post to his Facebook page, he delivered quite the prose beatdown:

Did the world really need another Wolfenstein game? Did we need a generically dark, monochromatic, FPS, kill-the-Nazi-giant-robot game?

Uh. No. The world did not. I am so tired of stuff like this…

Oh, and could we all just agree we’ll never use the generic gravelly-whisper trailer voice guy ever again?

And one more thing: Please stop using Jimi Hendrix to promote your adolescent male power fantasies.

Thank you. I’m done.

We posted about Spector’s comments at the time, but in the spirit of Friday Flame Wars, we’re posing the same questions he did: Does the world really need another Wolfenstein game? Do we need a generically dark, monochromatic, FPS, kill-the-Nazi-giant-robot game?

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12 Comments on Friday Flame Wars: No More Generically Dark FPS Games?


On May 10, 2013 at 10:06 pm

Ahhh complaining about other people not liking the things that you like.

Technically the world doesn’t need anything beyond the bare necessities to sustain human existence. It doesn’t need another “generically dark, monochromatic, FPS, kill-the-Nazi-giant-robot game” (although I can’t recall any previous games that revolved around destroying Nazi robots), but it also doesn’t need Epic Mickey. The world doesn’t need video games, movies, books, or any other form of art.

Look, I’m a little tired of dark gritty action games staring generically grizzled brown haired white guys too, but you know what? There isn’t anything wrong about these games. If that’s the directions people’s tastes run I can’t fault them for it, after all I’m still wishing for more games to adopt the Troma films aesthetic of relentless over the top violence and gratuitous and egalitarian nudity but I certainly don’t start throwing tantrums just because most people don’t want the same things I do.

Also Mr. Spector’s comment seems a touch unprofessional in my eyes, in addition to being unhelpful and nonconstructive.


On May 11, 2013 at 4:36 am

This just further illustrates that we are in the age of the douchebag developer, where everyone wants to ape Itagaki and be known for what they say and not for the games they make.

It also shows the larger problem with social media in general. Everyone wants to be the quote guy. Everyone has to make a comment just for the sake of making one. The Most Interesting Man in the World put it best. ” Having to say something and having something to say are completely different things.”


On May 11, 2013 at 6:36 am

At first I thought this article was going to be about Fuse, but then I remembered it’s not an FPS.


On May 11, 2013 at 12:15 pm

Did the world really need another Wolfenstein game? (yes, it’s Wolfenstien and Activision doesn’t have their hands on it this time. Not to mention the last few gaming generations never heard of or even played Wolfenstein)

Did we need a generically dark, monochromatic, FPS, kill-the-Nazi-giant-robot game? (Holy there’s a monochromatic FPS about killing giant Nazi robots? Where? I’d play that.)

Bend Oregon

On May 11, 2013 at 3:11 pm

How cute, ‘lol’ thinks his devils advocacy still has an impact. Either that or there aren’t enough worms in the garden for him to play with right now. Bless.


On May 11, 2013 at 8:53 pm

How about no more FPS games in general. These games have been the main reason the game industry has been falling apart. IF you do the research from the earlier consoles more gamers purchased games back then because of how different games were. Now almost 75 percent of all games are First Person this is all due to Halo’s success. Don’t believe me do the math on the different genre’s. No one wants to take risks anymore because of the cost. I say why don’t you try to budget your ideal idea but shred all the crap that no one cares. to look at. With less than 10 million dollars you can make a successful game that’s not VISUAL extensive and still get the same feel of the game in which you spent 50 million on. Why not try that to begin with and maybe more intelligent developers will follow suit and create new game experiences we haven’t seen yet and finally end the FPS reign of terror.


On May 12, 2013 at 5:57 am

Seeing as I’m not a psychopath, and I laughingly assume most other people aren’t either, I don’t see why anyone would want any Shooters in the first place. Martial Arts games- sign me up. But not Murder the Mans games. I guess if I WAS a psychopath, I’d be dead bored by now of Exactly The Same Thing Over And Over And At Full Price Every Time. Knockouts people, try ‘em.


On May 12, 2013 at 9:23 am

@quick tooth
You are absolutely right about the boredom part, at least for me anyways. I’ve been out of my mind when with boredom at the current fps market.
Sadly the risks are all being taken by small budget indie companies. Even there you find just as many generic fps and mmos being made.
One good indie game i recommend is wildfire worlds.


On May 12, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Did the world need Epic Mickey?


On May 13, 2013 at 9:29 am

“One doesn’t need to die for the other to exist”.

That’s what I think anyways. Can’t we have a generically dark, monochromatic, FPS, kill-the-Nazi-giant-robot game AND a completely different game that breaks most known tropes in the same universe? I’m no genre exclusive player, I enjoy a deep thoughtful narrative as much as shooting things in their general interfaces…


On May 15, 2013 at 8:08 am


Really? Cause Black Ops 2 beat Modern Warfare 3 in sales.

Halo 4 beat Halo Reach in sales.

Battlefield 3 beat Battlefield BC2 in sales.

So yeah the people do want it and it’s really not destroying the industry.

THQ didn’t have any FPS games, and look at how well they are doing lol.

Give Up

On May 15, 2013 at 9:44 am

@lol – typically facile, mentally lazy comment about THQ. They didn’t die out because of their lack of FPS games and you know it. Besides which, they DID have FPS games, the most prominent recent exact being Homefront which actually sold pretty well.

Look, we know you’re an industry sycophant, but you need to try a bit harder to encourage any discussion on here. We’re too wise to see you as anything other than a troll.