Petition Asks Microsoft to Pull MechWarrior Rights from Piranha Games

After firing its guns for months, it appears the dedicated MechWarrior Online community has finally overheated. A new petition on Change.org requests that Microsoft Game Studios, owner of the intellectual property rights for MechWarrior, end its licensing agreement with developer Piranha Games.

Remove the MechWarrior franchise rights from Piranha Games Inc.” was posted on Change.org yesterday. While it almost certainly won’t have any real impact on Piranha or MWO, the petition is symbolic of just how much diehard MechWarrior fans hate what PGI has done with the franchise.

Last summer, we outlined in detail the design decisions and ill communication that landed PGI in hot water in our feature A Cautionary Tale: The Rage of the Mechwarrior Online Community. In short, we stated: “Mechwarrior Online’s road to launch is a cautionary consumer tale, fraught with anger and betrayal. It shows how a company can take a fan base dedicated to an old IP and completely alienate it through lack of communication, unpopular features, and oathbreaking. It shows how players need to be cautious of supporting a project based solely on the IP backing it.”

Since then, PGI has done little to right the ship. If anything, it only further escalated tensions with the community in December when it began selling a set of eight gold-plated mechs for $500each. The gold mechs quickly became a symbol of two of the biggest issues fans have with MWO: monetization before new content and design decisions that don’t fit the MechWarrior mythos.

Officially, Microsoft licensed the electronic rights to MechWarrior (along with Shadowrun and Crimson Skies) to Jordan Weisman’s start-up company Smith & Tinker in 2007. In 2009, Weisman partnered with PGI to create MechWarrior Online.

I’ve reached out to Weisman, the man responsible for making MechWarrior one of the biggest PC gaming franchises of all time, for comment on MWO, its community, and the new petition.  I’ll update this post with any response.

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56 Comments on Petition Asks Microsoft to Pull MechWarrior Rights from Piranha Games

Ares

On February 24, 2014 at 2:37 pm

As a huge Mechwarrior fan I gave up this a long time ago. Was promising but has gone off in the wrong direction.

I have better faith in MekTek and the Heavy Gear project of theirs. They did wonders to support and keep MW4 alive and blasting.

Why

On February 24, 2014 at 9:41 pm

Why did you make an article based of a troll. Sigh…

brainsoftheoperation

On February 24, 2014 at 11:02 pm

and this is why journalism is poor

a pathetic little cryer who puts up a petition on an everyone has a beef about something petition creation site now get’s noted for the ludicrous notion that he/she can take charge of a buinesses property by informing the previous owner of what they’re doing with the IP? microsoft would’ve built this game themselves if they cared but they didn’t so i doubt they’ll bat an eyelid if 1 million people signed an i disaprove of the company petition.

whoever wrote this article is a fool for giving a troll any attention

Dragon84

On February 24, 2014 at 11:24 pm

I’m not surprised to see this considering the many times there has been massive backlash from the community, I am surprised it’s taken this long before a petition was started….

The game play is challenging and addictive, it’s the only thing that keeps me coming back for more. We are still missing major features that are years late. It’s still a glorified death match but at least the weapon balance is better with only a few exceptions.

PGI’s most recent stuff up was UI 2.0 the forums exploded with criticism! It took em a very long time to make, it arrived with bugs and failed with some basic design principals… latest patch fixed a few issues but there is more work to do….it’s a long slow trudge for PGI.

Next major stuff up? Clan implementation….. get out your folding chairs and popcorn it’s going to be quite a show!

lol

On February 25, 2014 at 12:33 am

Anyone crying about MWO obviously never played MW4 online. It was a fest of either putting as many ER-Large Lasers on a Daishi or running around with a suicide Raven.

PhuckMe

On February 25, 2014 at 4:22 am

Apparently being dissatisfied with a service and publicly stating as such makes you a troll. What a world we live in. Standards have never been lower.

Kitten Punch

On February 25, 2014 at 4:54 am

>>Since then, PGI has done little to right the ship.<<

Really? This poorly written and researched article coming out days after PGI effectively gave away a free 'mech to it's player base?

Find any F2P title and you'll find someone who doesn't like something.

Can I write for this site? " People don't like stuff and things" .

Please send me my check ASAP.

Roadbeer

On February 25, 2014 at 7:21 am

The only thing more laughable than the poll written by a 12 year old, is that it generated the intrest of a fellow neckbeard to write this “article”.

Remember when it took a little journalistic integrity to write an article? Thanks HuffPo.

Heffie

On February 25, 2014 at 8:51 am

Funny how some folks are all over bad articles for being junk, but if someone writes positive stuff about PGI it’s awesome. I see one of the regular propaganda cheerleaders came here to post something negative. Must suck that all PGI gets is bad press. Cheer harder!

Sad

On February 25, 2014 at 8:59 am

Yes, it certainly doesn’t do PGI’s image any good when their defenders all act like little crybabies at the slightest whiff of negative publicity. Same as BioWare’s trolls. Pathetic.

I’m not even taking a side in this debate, I don’t know the game well enough to make an informed judgement. I am, however, informed enough to tell the difference between genuine criticisms and butthurt. The comments on here calling the journalist a hack and the person who started the petition a 12 year old etc are most definitely the latter.

Head in sandpit

On February 25, 2014 at 9:28 am

Yup, funny I thought it was just every negative post on their forums that needed to be commented on, but I guess it’s if anyone dares say bad stuff about PGI. I’m starting to think they are PGI family members, who else would care so much about a game company to post so much and so defensively about a game. And these folks complain about people who post hate threads, the defenders are scarier. Talk about 12 year olds or people living in moms basement.

Cmndr. Keen

On February 25, 2014 at 9:43 am

Mechwarrior online started life as a closed beta in which you could customize a mech and use it in a death match setting. Little has changed over the past 18 months, and the big features that were promised to the founders to be out within 90 days of open beta (13+ months late now) are still absent.

In the mean time the developers have baited and switched on most of the major features they swore to keep out as well, including coolant flushes (they monetized them to add them…) and keeping it as a 1pv-sim (they forced 3pv cam in and made it the default vision mode).

Any time PGI wants your money (e.g. 500 dollar golden monstrosities) they talk a good talk about making progress, but really they then clam up again shortly after.

Their most recent ‘accomplishment’ of UI2.0 was not something that was specifically wanted by the community but spun by PGI as being the answer to all of their development roadblocks between the front end and back end of the game. In summary they screwed up their original UI so badly that they had to rewrite it so they can maybe some day deliver the central gameplay features and persistent universe that were supposed to be in since the end of 2012.

Tabrias

On February 25, 2014 at 10:49 am

Thanks for this, wouldn’t have known about it otherwise. Got my signature.

WordOfBlowtax

On February 25, 2014 at 11:26 am

Yawn. These people are idiots. They don’t like the game so they expect everyone else to suffer.
It’s not far off from Mark Twain’s quote about censorship: Something about telling a man he can’t have a steak just because a baby can’t chew it. Move along, babies. Nobody’s cared what you had to say since you all left in Beta.

Das

On February 25, 2014 at 11:35 am

I found that if i just play the game and dont look at the forums or what people think at all, I have a lot of fun playing.
UI 2.0 hurt my enjoyment a bit but im getting over it slowly now.

WordOfBlowtax

On February 25, 2014 at 11:39 am

Sure, punish everybody that enjoys the game because a miniscule number of people are crying because they don’t like the game. There are plenty of things that need improving, but it turns out that’s what happens when you buy into a Free-To-Play game.

These whiners want to punish the vast majority of the community for enjoying a game that a few are unhappy with. Move along, there’s nothing to see on this useless troll-post.

Christ.

On February 25, 2014 at 12:06 pm

Considering these many thousands of people paid their money just as you did, WordofBlowtax, and actually seem to have valid criticisms unlike your name-calling and reliance on fallacies, I could make a pretty strong argument that it’s actually you that’s the selfish whiner who wants to spoil it for everyone else by demanding it stays static when many, many people clearly want to see it improve. You don’t represent the game or its developer well by behaving like a child whose had his favourite superhero called a wimp during lunch break.

Social Misfit

On February 25, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Thousands who enjoy, LOL. If the game such a success why so fearful of a silly petition? PGI can’t keep a CM around but they don’t need to with their unofficial troll squad to drive any critical posts to where it won’t be seen. These sad viral folks don’t get it. No normal person posts so much to white knight for a game. They should at least get special titles, oh wait one does already.
But don’t call them white knights, they really think they are unbiased. Of course all the people who love the game would agree.
A forum over run with WK is a sad sign. All the critical people don’t bother to even post or play anymore, so I hope they buy a lot of $500 clan shyte. Notice how the “micro” transactions went up. Only so many whales left so milk as much as possible.
They are so desperate they actually broke down and gave something away the tight fisted oney grabbers. MS must want a report with good numbers.

WordOfBlowtax

On February 25, 2014 at 12:56 pm

Oh, everybody wants to see it improved, christ. Killing it and then taking Mechwarrior away from all of the fans though is NOT the way. THAT is the pinnacle of selfish petulance.

You also don’t represent the game, you don’t even represent the vast majority. People who spent their money on this free game have received the products they paid for. It’s the things they’re asking for that don’t require purchase that they’re angry about. This has nothing to do with money, it has everything to do with a very loud few that don’t like how long the game is taking to see more in-game features. Most of the complaints aren’t even about the direction that the game is moving (though there are some), it’s about the speed of development and some people expect that to happen faster.

Bonkers

On February 25, 2014 at 1:34 pm

Uh, I paid for the game, I was a founder, where’s the stuff I paid for?

Where’s community warfare? Where’s directx11, a promised feature from the start of closed beta? Where’s role warfare, where lights and mediums and certain heavies and assaults are completely non-viable in competitive play? Where’s information warfare? Remember when that was relevant?

PGI hasn’t delivered on their promises and if the “vast majority” thought the game was in any way salvageable the game wouldn’t have such poor reviews on metacritic.

SB

On February 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm

Considering the Gold mech includes a package of 8 Clan mechs and their variants as well as additional content, this article is as half assed as the petition it’s giving light to. It’s not just 1 gold mech.

Diabloenfuego

On February 25, 2014 at 7:08 pm

I fully support this petition. BURN, MWO, BURN!!

ArchAngelWC

On February 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm

I was an admin for Starlance MW3/4, and MechCommander leagues…
I though MWO was going to be MPBT3025 v2..Awesomesauce..
Instead we got World of Battletechs (with special hero mechs), and camos.
And that has not stopped or changed in the slighest..
They have done nothing with that game but milked the Battletech community of our last ounces of faith..

Chris Roberts FTW!!

Roadbeer

On February 25, 2014 at 8:44 pm

ROFL

You neckbeards are priceless.

c

On February 25, 2014 at 10:08 pm

This is the worst article ever. forum troll makes a petition… Wht do you expect from gamefront though?

Oh come on.

On February 25, 2014 at 10:22 pm

I’m fairly certain this is just a vocal minority.

There are still many players playing (and loving) this game. Personally, I would like some of the features a little faster, but THAT hardly warrants a petition to pull the IP from the game. Ridiculous. It’s a PR problem, not a game problem.

> Since then, PGI has done little to right the ship.

That’s just not true. Communication has improved dramatically, and they’re still reading the feedback threads (and responding to common concerns, where the concern is constructive).

It’s also not true that the community is “completely alienated”. Have a look at the forums – there are still many players discussing builds, tactics and gameplay every day. Right now, there are a thousand users logged on to the official forum alone, and most of the recent posts I can see there are positive.

This is still a great game, and having played MW2 and 4, I think it’s the best mech game yet.

Mini Driver

On February 26, 2014 at 3:48 am

“I’m fairly certain this is just a vocal minority.”

Any evidence for that? Apologists for anything like to dismiss criticisms by saying they’re coming from a “vocal minority”, as if that somehow changes anything (the strength of an argument is based on its own merits, not on the number of people making it). But nobody seems willing to actually dissect the numbers. Sure, the petition itself is a minority – only 79 people have signed it. But it would be naive to suggest that this is entirely representative of the fanbase, or that this number couldn’t grow. It’s only representative of those who have a) come across the petition and b) felt enough of a response to sign the thing. It also discounts the number of people like, say, Ares who simply don’t care enough about the game anymore to try and change things. It doesn’t mean they’re happy with it.

For all you know, you could be in the ‘vocal minority’. It only needs to be less than 50% in order to be a minority, after all. But again, unless there’s actually a stated intention to listen to the majority then the numbers shouldn’t matter as much as the weight of the arguments.

ScottyDoo

On February 26, 2014 at 5:46 am

@Bonkers: No, you did not pay for CW. You paid for Founder’s mechs, MC, Premium Time, and got the best deal that’s ever existed for those things. Community Warfare is part of the game…the game is free.

You purchased an introductory advantage and speculated on the future of the game’s releases and progress (which isn’t guaranteed, btw).

If you purchase a pre-order of a game and then when that game comes out you maybe don’t like it as much as you thought you did…you still bought it. You received the content that you actually put money down for, you just want more….oh, and if you didn’t like it you could have actually gotten a return (seems like you didn’t though…must be you enjoy the game, maybe?). A lot of companies wouldn’t even have entertained that idea.

This message coming from a person who is also a Founder.

As for who’s a vocal minority…you guys want some proof? Look at your own petition. Nobody cares, not even that many of the people who are upset.

Zeece

On February 26, 2014 at 8:22 am

Really? you are reporting this when the petition has 50 people on it? This is extremely poor journalism.

If it had 5000 on it then someone should watch it.. but 50 people… doesn’t even remotely touch 1000% of a percent of the MWO community.

Cough

On February 26, 2014 at 8:36 am

Heh, got to love how ScottyDoo claims to be a founder as if somehow that validates his comment. All it does is show that he has vested interests and an agenda. So that’s two fallacies in his comment (appeal to the majority and appeal to authority), where are the valid ripostes? Next we’ll see someone appealing to emotion or invoking Godwin’s Law.

I have no opinion on the game, I’ve no intention of ever playing it, I just find it hilarious how desperate some people are to defend it yet can’t grasp at even halfway reasonable arguments.

Roadbeer

On February 26, 2014 at 10:35 am

“I have no opinion on the game, I’ve no intention of ever playing it, I just find it hilarious how desperate some people are to defend it yet can’t grasp at even halfway reasonable arguments.”

Translation: “I haven’t the slightest clue what I’m talking about”

I find Pseudo Intellectual comments like this delicious.

Ben

On February 26, 2014 at 10:49 am

Got to love how the fanboys claim the petition is worthless yet they’re still taking the time to tell us how worthless it is. What’s the point? Clearly the backlash cuts much deeper than they’d like us to think.

Tony

On February 26, 2014 at 10:55 am

Just a note, Jordan Wiessman and Smith & thinker were never part of the development of MW:O. I just recently had a conversation via twitter with Russ about this. They WERE involved with the development of MW5 but disappeared after the lawsuit from harmony gold.

Rusty Bollocks

On February 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm

Funny, how people who rag on a game are 12 year olds, neckbeards, etc but those who post 15 times a day to defend it against all comers, even going to defend it on other websites are normal functioning adults. Get out of moms basement and get some daylight and maybe you’d realize it’s you who are the social misfits and weirdos. Unless you’re related to people who work there, why so defensive.
Oh maybe the money you put in is a big deal and you don’t want to see it tank. Best work some extra shifts at the MCDs to save up for your $500 Gold skin.
Please come back and say you are an adult with a real job who posts 8K times defending a video game even on other sites. I’ll believe it.

Neckbeard Warrior: Online

On February 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm

LOL, why so angry about constantly being made to look foolish?

Remember, vote early and vote often.

Neckbeards will be neckbeards

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

“petition”, “author” and “article” are all a joke.

Rage harder my nerds, rage harder.

True Gamer

On February 26, 2014 at 4:03 pm

I love how Rusty Bollocks was proved right by the very next commenter. Sad fanboys who can’t handle honest and valid criticism of their beloved products and feel inclined to spam and spew bile at anyone who tries to provide some balance. Pitiful.

Roadbeer

On February 26, 2014 at 7:31 pm

“I love how Rusty Bollocks was proved right by the very next commenter. Sad fanboys who can’t handle honest and valid criticism of their beloved products and feel inclined to spam and spew bile at anyone who tries to provide some balance. Pitiful.”

Lulz, I wonder if the ‘author’ of this ‘article’ did any reasearch on the one who created the petition?
I also wonder if the publisher of this site knows they’re furthering the agenda of someone who refers to American service personal as “Baby Killers” and laughed at the murder of one.
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/151178-remove-pgi-rights-to-mwo/page__view__findpost__p__3175075
You mouthbreathers just don’t care about the company you keep, as long as you get to be angry together.

Pure Comedy.

Heffay (Markemp)

On February 26, 2014 at 10:39 pm

For all the white knight jaggoffs:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/105925-Codemasters-Launches-Jumpgate-Evolution-Lawsuit

What happens when your publisher gets tired of your bull (well thats what happens when you use a publisher you dont create yourselves so its not gonna happen with IGP)

Slippery Weasel

On February 27, 2014 at 3:29 am

Roadbeer, all you’re doing by calling people names when you don’t agree with them is legitimising their need to make themselves heard. If you’re not willing to let those with a critical voice air their thoughts then that shows a lack of confidence in your own beliefs, since you’re clearly far more threatened by these ‘mouthbreathers’ than you want us to think otherwise you wouldn’t be taking the time to obsess over them like this. If what they’re saying doesn’t have any merit then you should be able to de-construct what they say without resorting to ad hominem schoolyard talk. The fact that you haven’t managed this yet suggests that you don’t have any answers for it and, by association, that what they’re saying actually has something to it.

You might think you’re helping PGI here, but you’re really not. You’re just making their fans look like infantile morons.

Roadbeer

On February 27, 2014 at 7:03 am

“Roadbeer, all you’re doing by calling people names when you don’t agree with them is legitimising their need to make themselves heard. If you’re not willing to let those with a critical voice air their thoughts then that shows a lack of confidence in your own beliefs, since you’re clearly far more threatened by these ‘mouthbreathers’ than you want us to think otherwise you wouldn’t be taking the time to obsess over them like this. If what they’re saying doesn’t have any merit then you should be able to de-construct what they say without resorting to ad hominem schoolyard talk. The fact that you haven’t managed this yet suggests that you don’t have any answers for it and, by association, that what they’re saying actually has something to it.

You might think you’re helping PGI here, but you’re really not. You’re just making their fans look like infantile morons.”

LOL, you mouthbreathers never really understood what I do.

I don’t give 2 craps about PGI, I’m not here to defend them.
I’m here (and there, and anywhere) to make fun of ridiculous assertions, hyperbole, and overreaction.

This “article” by this “author” is a farce of a joke, the petition doubly so. All I”m doing here is making fun of shoddy ‘journalism’ and those who give it any sense of credibility.
If you think that this was written by an objective hand? You definitely need to begin legal proceedings against whichever institution educated you.

Garth ILame

On February 27, 2014 at 7:04 am

Folks may not know Road Beer is the unofficial voice of PGI. They can’t have a real account post like this so they created a viral. No real person would spend so much time and energy getting all angry at people who dare to say bad things about PGI.
Engaging him is pointless, him and a few others, Sandpit, Heffay etc are just out to squash any and all criticism. Then they claim to not be white knights. It’s cute, like racists who claim to have black friends they point to the 1% of their thousands of posts that are vaguely critical, but they always come back to say any problems that may exist PGI will fix. Despite evidence to the contrary.
Good games don’t need to be defended all the time, good games don’t have their only exposure being negative articles in the gaming press. The rare positive come from PC Gamer paid propaganda or their own No Guts to stand up pom pomers.
As much as they like to claim it’s a vocal minority, go look at who posts cheerleading posts on their forums, who shouts down critics, it’s the same handful of die hard fanboi fakes.

Slippery Weasel

On February 27, 2014 at 7:31 am

Thanks for clarifying, Garth. Not that I honestly believed anyone who can’t write a comment without calling people neckbeards and making tired assertions about the IQs of the people he’s talking to was being honest when he said he didn’t have an agenda, but it’s nice to know someone’s paying attention.

And again, it only serves to make PGI and its fanboys look ever more desperate and incapable of forming valid arguments, instead having to simply throw mud at people like monkeys in a zoo. Pathetic doesn’t even begin to describe it.

The OP

On February 28, 2014 at 12:41 am

to whom it may concern.

I was tired of playing MWO with some really good people, Everyday for past 2+ years. I have gone from cheers of joy to ….well basically nothing. Player comments about the next announcement for PGI, lack any true luster. I feel like I’m surrounded by Mech Zombies, doing the motions, hoping for a better end. Its frustrating watching something I love become, well nothing.
I did some homework and notice that the PGI anti-criticism machine was blocking people or removing any post shining any criticisms. Even when a poll was taken for third person, again the MWO community was ignored. So I started my petition,
PGI over the past years have not only destroyed the trademark, but the love of the game itself.
Im tired of watching another favorite go down without a fight.
PGI will only accelerate its own demise.

Side Note : Any poster here claiming to be the original MWO forums poster ” KittenPunch” is another PGI troll.
I an convinced that Sandpit is a dev, the amount of time spent trying to discredit me is incredible.
Cheer to all who support this petition. Thanks Game front for picking this up.
KP

john

On February 28, 2014 at 6:59 am

In my many years of gaming, PGI is the worst game studio I have ever encountered.

They are profoundly incompetent, consistently dishonest, frequently and boldly rude towards their customers and have never even made a real game before. Seriously, look it up. The two smucks who founded PGI made a series of like 10 $2 ‘walmart bargain bin’ games. You know, the ‘sniper elite gulf warrior 5′ that those who didnt know any better bought. After making PGI, they worked on such gems as ‘bass pro fishing’ for the wii etc etc.

PGI is a ing sad joke. The only reason they are not already bankrupt is because of their blatant exploitation of fans waiting for a game for 10 years.

It really sucks.

ScottyDoo

On February 28, 2014 at 10:32 am

@ Cough:

You clearly have an agenda of your own (though you peevishly attempt to deny it). A reasonable response to another person’s opinion and you step in about debate-theory. What’s amusing is that two people can have different opinions on the same subject. A person who’s unhappy states “well, I’m a Founder” and their word is somehow gospel? But someone who’s content states it and you’re so quick to point out that it’s a fallacy. You’ve got some funny fallacies of your own, and you make yourself sound inept doing so.

…I’m sure you’re here because you have ‘no opinion’. You reek of opinion and it’s laughable (otherwise, why are you here and commenting?). But this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, so I’ll end it at that. I trust you enjoy being an opinion-less joke on an opinionated forum that has no credibility in and of itself.

Everyone’s welcome to an opinion, but when they’re trying to burn down a game (remember, this IS a game) that others still like then there’s a definite contention of interest.

But, selfish angry or irate people often enjoy taking away things that others’ enjoy. When babies cry, we acquiesce and give them their bottle. When adults cry, we get posts like these.

Cough

On February 28, 2014 at 10:52 am

@ScottyDoo – the only adult crying I’ve witnessed on here is from fanboys who obsess over what a supposedly irrelevant, minuscule minority of people think of a game they like. And the only agenda I have is to counter the childishness of these troll posts because I’m sick to death of people leeching onto these chiches and fallacies whenever they have their views challenged.

I don’t need to have played the game to know what’s a valid argument and what’s pan-beating histrionics. I have no doubt that there’s just as much of this in the camp that criticises the game and PGI. My observation is simply that none of the reasonable, objective comments on this article have come from those defending they game, they’ve all come from those with a critical viewpoint. The defenders have simply called the rest names and come across not even as true defenders of PGI but of people who simply want to attack others for the sake of it. I’m simply fighting fire with fire.

And by the way, you have no point whatsoever when it comes to the “I’m a founder” thing. It was YOU who said that YOU were a founder. Anyone with basic reading comprehension could see that my point is as follows – if you’re truly a founder, it’s you who has the agenda, not me. If you’re not truly a founder, then you’re simply a liar and thus are invalidated by virtue of dishonesty. The fact you thought you could muddy this issue by saying it would have been different if you’d said you were a founder who was unhappy with the game, despite having nothing to back this up, shows how desperate you are.

In two long-winded posts, you have failed to establish a single cogent argument.

I'm LOL'ing in my Pants

On February 28, 2014 at 11:04 am

This thread is pretty in’ hilarious, I gotta say.

So much wasted energy. Some of you people seem to be watching this post to like a hawk, itching for somebody to rag on (Looking at obvious pedants like you, Cough).

Y’all need to grow up and get a life if following pointless things like this is what you’re all about.

Cough

On February 28, 2014 at 11:09 am

Funny, I didn’t realize wanting people to use actual reasoning was pedantry. Nor did I realize that pedantry was a bad thing. Or would you rather people had no standards at all?

Not to mention you’ve just wasted your own time talking to people you say you don’t care about regarding an issue you say you don’t care about. How is that not wasted energy?

But I guess a troll is a troll is a troll.

Drillson

On February 28, 2014 at 12:18 pm

BS
MWO is a real good game! AND PGI IS DOING A GOOD JOB! I love Mechwarrior since my first PC runs MW2 and i’m proud of saying MWO is at the best with MW2 MW3 and MW4.

And if you hate MWO don’t try to ruin it for the other who like it.

Nutz

On February 28, 2014 at 12:28 pm

HARD HITTING JOURNALISM

someone fire this guy

VicViper.v1

On February 28, 2014 at 12:47 pm

It’s nice to see some of the community raising a Voice, I was really angry when PGI threatened league action agencies Wondering samurai for developing a Free Mechwarrior game called “Mechwarrior Liveing legends” the game is amazing and I highly recommend everyone to try it , Currently a lot of MWO players are porting over.
It would not have been so bad if MWO tried to learn from MWLL instead of blocking a better game such as they did.

Try checking it out
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Pedant-erast

On February 28, 2014 at 1:02 pm

I dunno that LoLPants guy (obviously a troll). But I think we should throw around the word ‘fallacy’ a few more times to make us sound more smart and important than the others in this thread. Obviously, if I use that card then it means your point is less valid than mine.

Behold, everything a pedant needs to know to understand why they’re an (because it turns out pedants are s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant

le pinky

On March 4, 2014 at 5:15 pm

if you haven’t heard the “whiteknights” such as sandpit and roadbeer and imperius are at the moment all on a boycott over the lacking to form larger groups launch modulegate. another of bryan and russ’s plans changing months later to something we didn’t want like coolant or 3pv etc. the knights have become haters too as their pet feature has been slammed like all the ones we wanted ages back.

so much for your PGI shills and devs multi account aliens theories.

oh and BTW OP your petition has as much impact as a feather, buisness involving revenue sources really don’t care if it shifts from one audience to another which is clearly what pgi have done over the last year. they’ve looked at the demographics and see gullible noobs are more plenifull then demanding lore abidding whales. that’s what pgi are doing and they’ve convinced microsoft that’s the best course to take. your petition is exactly the sort of thing which proves there judgement correct. you’re the minority, you’re not as plentifull cash wise as a larger pool of suckers. old hands and founders are being shafted and theres nothing you can do about it.

DemaTech

On April 14, 2014 at 11:06 am

i have to say, i think taking the rights from PGI would be a great start in the right direction to getting a good online MechWarrior based game. PGI has done very little for the players and fans since its beta release, and till this day is still beta. it took them how long to release the new UI that they promised how long ago? and how many bugs that still cause players issues, and some of the bugs that started on its first day of beta release, and are still happening, not to mention all the new bugs that have been added. also i have to point out the That its a Known fact that anyone who posts anything the Devs disagree with in the forums, gets deleted, this ranges from people posting video linked evidence of another player cheating, too players complaining about Devs failing to do what they promised, oh yah the best way to stop a problem is to ignore it, must PGI’s. and dont even get me started on the prices they like to charge players for any content, sure you can get almost anything for free, but when you consider the rate at with you make C-bills, its a long painful process og grinding to get even the cheap light mechs not mention the weapons and other things you might want to get to optimize your mech.
just have to say that, yes PGI does not deserve the rights, all they do is pump out new over priced content for a game that is no where near stable or fully functional after being in beta for so long, its not fair to the fans or the Tittle MechWarrior that some less than third rate Developers mess it up for all of mechwarrior fans to make a quick buck. screw PGI and the game they though they knew how to make.

Bret M

On April 29, 2014 at 9:39 pm

MWO has been falling apart for a long time now, and the developers are basically just trying to squeeze as much money as they can out of it before they shut it down.

Petitions are stupid as they achieve nothing, but anyone who says this was done by a troll or a small group from the playerbase has never played the game since launch or at the very least has never played any previous titles to see the potential this franchise had. I logged in recently and my friends list of 30+ players, some of whom I played MW4 and even as far back as MW2/Netmech with online haven’t even logged into their accounts in 10 months or more.

Paul

On November 13, 2014 at 6:47 am

After playing the game for 3 weeks and 400 games, I must agree with the petition to yank the rights. I posted a topic on their forums with 15 different changes the community wanted and asked the community to prioritize what changes they want first.

Guess what, the topic was locked inside 10 minutes and the moderator told me that when Piranha Games wanted to know what the community wanted, they would ask.

I haven’t logged on since then and will never do so again. I had reached the point in the grind where you had to spend real money on mech bays and was unsure if I wanted to spend the money on a game that I fell so far behind my expectations after having been a top 100 player on Mechwarrior 4. I won’t be spending any money.

Ironically, I learned about the game from this article. I will sign the petition.