Gamers Blame Red Rings of Death on Kinect

England isn’t so merry (but still just as old) for Kinect owners following the holidays, who are claiming Kinect is killing their Xbox 360s with the Red Ring of Death, according to a story out of the BBC.

Apparently a whole mess of 10-year-olds and their baffled parents are upset because their Xboxes are up and quitting on them more or less right after they start playing Kinect — at least, as the story describes it.

Meanwhile, the Xbox forums are awash in similar stories, but they seem to apply to connecting Kinect to old Xboxes, not the new slim versions. A lot of them seem to be coming from legitimate gamers who know something more about their hardware than the parents the BBC interviewed. So maybe this is a real thing.

Then again, Red Ring of Death is the catch-all “holy crap your Xbox is broken” error. Mine have always seemed to be attributable to cooling issues, but just about anything broken, including the hard drive or the power supply, can cause it. It seems completely possible that excessive play with Kinect coupled with a really poor ability to cool itself might be the old game console’s problem, though that doesn’t explain people who claim they basically plugged in the unit and had a hardware failure immediately afterward.

A Microsoft spokesperson told the BBC that no, it isn’t Kinect causing Xboxes to fail — Kinect works on all Xboxes, and so it’s probably just the shoddy hardware inside an unrelated issue that a huge portion of some old consoles can suffer from. As the rep put it to the BBC, the hardware failures are “merely coincidental.”

Microsoft has sold 2.5 million Kinects, so statistically, the failures might really be a coincidence, considering how often Xbox 360s break down.

Via VG247.

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35 Comments on Gamers Blame Red Rings of Death on Kinect


On January 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm

*afterward* not *afterword*.

Phil Hornshaw

On January 5, 2011 at 11:15 pm

Gee, thanks, Matt. *corrected


On January 13, 2011 at 3:19 am

Matt, UR an absolute genius, really. Your input to the subject was just riveting. One day you will truly be regarded as an absolute a- hole, but for the moment you will have to be content with simply being a fully fledged fukkin kok. Well done rse wipe

Derek = Fail

On January 14, 2011 at 6:07 am

Oh yeah, I went there.

That poor little man can’t even offer a little spelling fix without getting verbally assaulted by someone who uses terms like “fully fledged fukkin kok”? I nearly died of laughter.

And just what kind of input do you expect, exactly? It’s an article about a bunch of losers crying over the loss of their precious 360s and are desperately trying to find a scapegoat other than the fact that these particular consoles all tend to break if you so much as sneeze too hard near one. This was also worth a good chuckle.


On January 14, 2011 at 8:26 am

WTF the gamers in england think the red ring of death is caused by kinect dude i have a kinect and i didnt get red ring of death from playing it


On January 16, 2011 at 4:28 am

Ok 1st off the red ring of death could’nt be affected by the kinect since the kinect is external hardware. I have been working in this area of work for 15 years and i can guarantee its because the heatsink is over heating, the gpu is failing, the powersupply is bad, the disc drive is worn, the motherboard is fried, or you need new A/V cables. All the people who think its your kinect, it’s not. THE OLD XBOXS WERE SUSCEPTIBLE TO RED RINGS PEOPLE.


On January 17, 2011 at 4:39 pm

@Drumbatt, so let me see if I read that right (which in all possibility, I might not have) old Xboxes (not 360s) are ALSO susceptible to RRoD?

if this is the case, eff Microsoft consoles and hardware, I own a Wii, have Linux on my Laptop, I’ve now got one more reason to be anti-microsoft.

Phil Hornshaw

On January 17, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Old 360s. Original Xboxes don’t connect to Kinect and new 360s are supposed to be built better and vent heat better, so they supposedly don’t succumb to the RRoD problem.


On January 18, 2011 at 6:44 am

I agree with Derek = Fail about the UK looking for a scapegoat because there Year free maintenance is over and they don’t want to pay for a new one themselves It’s like the rednecks of the UK world got on BBC to but the more refined people there where laughing in the back of the studio
Just like when you see rednecks in America on the news it makes news more interesting =)


On January 20, 2011 at 1:36 pm

This proves that God hates England.


On January 22, 2011 at 9:05 am

Seems to me they have prolly been playing their xbox more than they ever have since getting the Kinect. Those older xbox 360′s were junk. You just gave the system more of a chance to overheat. =) Pc gaming for the win!

Dan fails also

On January 22, 2011 at 6:27 pm

so, dan, England is punished by God in the form of consoles failing?
It’s more of a blessing in disguise, they might buy a gaming rig that is already 3-4 generations ahead of the consoles (pc, if I have to spell it out).

If God hates England (it’s the UK for your information- but I’m used to americans thinking the UK and England are interchangable)and punishes us with failing consoles, he must really hate America, because of the state of your toilet-paper currency.
Good day to you.

Daniel (differant from Dan there)

On January 23, 2011 at 11:01 am

I beleive the main reason why the systems are failing is because of the above statement the first xboxe 360 sucked really bad they wanted to be released b4 PS3 so they just winged it an failed epicly an yes the Kinect is new to the “old” xbox 360′s an its just another source of processing power taken from the xbox cpu so the chances of it geting RRod are higher than it would be if it wasnt using the device so in a way both partys are right an no God does not hate anyone people want him to do everything that they cant fix but the truth is they have the power its just that they have not found it yet. The reason why Microsoft sucks is when ever they sell somthing wheter it being a 3000 dollar computer to a 3$ xbox headset they lose money so they make it with less than good materials an workmenship

King Reggin

On January 23, 2011 at 12:16 pm

I’m suing for damages to my console, and since I’m actually in the good old USA, I’ll win.


On January 24, 2011 at 10:24 am

There is only one way to solve this… Get a PS3.

Jack @ gus

On January 24, 2011 at 11:27 am

Pretty sure PS3′s get that yellow HDD or w.e it is… just as prone to failure as the xbox.

jo chedda

On January 24, 2011 at 2:36 pm

I remember reading back that Kinect, even though it’s external hardware, actually uses some of the xbox’s processing power. Not much, but I doubt that’s a reason why.


On January 26, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Heh. I got RRoD once, and my 360 runs fine after that. Just needed to fix the cables.


On January 29, 2011 at 11:48 pm

if anybody knew owt,theyd knw tht the new slim xbox still gets the rrod,and the new liton whisper drives have got a nack of breaking aswell.

Mr Tom

On January 30, 2011 at 2:11 am

I work retail, and have actually seen xboxes that ONLY red ring when the Kinect is attached. Reboot without the Kinect attached, and fine, reconnect, and RROD again. Most won’t even boot at all with it attached. Still a coincidence?

Also, UK=United Kingdom. That includes England Wales and Scotland.
They are not the same thing. Just like saying Texas is the USA, not IN the USA.

@ Dan. God hates everyone, not just England.

Phil Hornshaw

On January 30, 2011 at 2:48 am

Mr. Tom raises a good point about the Kienct RRoD failures — if he’s seeing Xboxes RRoDing with Kinect attached, it could mean it’s the Kinect itself that’s broken down. RRoD refers to hardware failure, and a lot of different hardware is included under that umbrella; that’s why Microsoft’s troubleshooting includes checking to make sure it’s not your power supply or A/V cables that are messed up. It could be just the Kinect that’s broken. Just a thought.

your mom

On January 30, 2011 at 5:52 am

I have an idea to combat this problem, throw you XBOX 360 out of a window.

Dan fails fails

On January 30, 2011 at 3:55 pm

It’s generally good practice to not make yourself look like an ignorant hick when you’re insulting someone who was clearly just a troll.

matt. w

On February 2, 2011 at 10:13 am

Wait… 10 yr olds… the kids who dont know how to take care of their video game consoles in the first place???? i wouldnt point my finger at kinect yet.. but the 10 yr olds lol

your mom

On February 2, 2011 at 10:16 am

Honestly guys, consoles are failing PC’s emulated for the family.
PC gaming is the king.

Somebody with a brain

On February 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Well, in my personal opinion, consoles are pieces of that little kids can play with and break at their own leisure. When you get beyond the age of 12, you should use a gaming PC. Presumably at that point in your life you are smart enough to use the internet and smart enough not to break a computer. Personally, I won’t let anybody without a Comp Sci major touch my $6000 gaming rig. Hell to the no.


On February 5, 2011 at 1:52 am

ok, this is out of hand…

once again the fools who think their stuff is better than other peoples stuff have come along to break up the topic.

and “somebody with a brain” why the hell would you need a $6000 rig? Are you trying to get a spaceship to mars?

xbox was a total disaster. It was rushed to the shop shelves and from day one there were red eyes staring back at people.

Ps3 came out and seemed to work but about 3 years later it was becoming noticable that there was also an issue with yellow lights.

PC is the way to go… i bought a nvidia 460 gtx for a standard work comp i got out of some retail store and now i actually have more power than an xbox, especially when i overclock components. You don’t need to be any kind of expert to install parts, just a medium – high IQ. And once your done!!! MODS GALORE, SO MANY OF EM. I have replaced every car on gta 4 with a more realistic one, i can fly, i am invincible, i can spawn every car, get a minigun, get a flamethrower, get vehicles that i didn’t even know existed. Its so much BETTER

As for kinect……. Fail.


On February 5, 2011 at 8:47 pm

:O Stop the console wars and in really the ps3 was supposed to come out first but it postponed it till a year after the xbox came out so really if sony wasnt being a bunch of females ps3 would be having this problem too but idc im not in it for the kinect. The whole reason Xbox is better is Online (Period)

I hate Steve

On February 6, 2011 at 3:21 pm

I think it’s better that the Sony postponed the PS3. Why would you want them to release it earlier if it’s just going to out on you. X Box 360′s suck. I enjoy laughing at their Red Ring of Death’s and their having to pay for L4D2 DLC. Everyone I know who has an xbox 360 has had a red ring of death. My PS3 has never had a problem at all and it’s the older cheap ass model.


On February 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm

Alright, this one needs a list and a colon:<—–(colon)

Every Single Piece of Hardware ever produced by mankind has a chance to fail. Why? Because it was made humans. I don't really know how this comment board escalated into a console war, but bickering about certainly won't solve anything. Be happy that gaming began as an excellent marketing scheme developed by business people to sell televisions and make money, but evolved into a passion of the people who founded Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, and others. Now they care enough to keep making things and for gamers and not just for profits. Complain your system broke, or be happy you had it. Which sounds less conflicting?

Informed Continued

On February 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm

Hmm, lost track of the list, and ended with a rant. Whoops.

Master Chief

On February 8, 2011 at 9:04 am

this is only in england because of the regional data like u cant play a game from canada in england so maybe its the regions kinects screwing up


On February 8, 2011 at 8:03 pm

Well the way I see this is its because Microsoft fails at every turn, Like what most of you said they want to get as much of it out asap. There is however another step you guys are missing though, how do you think these items get from point a to point b ? I am sure you all know the answer to that. There are many cases where items are damaged during shipments, so most of the time its not the manufactures fault.

Though due this topic sounding like hardware issue’s. to me its more like these people do not understand how to take care of their consoles, so far I have had a old model from when it first came out and I still have not had any major problems with it.

@Somebody with a brain: wow you actually spent $6,000 on a pc. I can easily make one just as good as that one and mostly under $2,000 if you know what you are actually doing. It doesn’t take much to understand how to install chipsets into a computer.


On February 9, 2011 at 7:06 pm

@DrumBatt; If you’ve been working with such for 15 Years, you should be aware that *some* External Hardware puts extra Stress on the PSU.

Also, a Xbox 360 could not possibly get a RRoD because of a Heatsink Overheating. Any kind of Main Component Overheating/Failure leads to a RRoD – Thus being; CPU, GPU, RAM, PSU, Mobo and Harddrive. As far as I know, a failing or defunct DVD Reader does not cause a RRoD.

Thus meaning that both Old and New Xboxes are and will still be subjects for RRoD. Just because it’s OEM doesn’t mean it’ll never break/fail.

So yeah, Kinect itself is most unlikely to be what’s causing a RRoD…


On February 10, 2011 at 4:21 pm

Does anyone else wish SEGA would come back to the video game market.