Posted on October 25, 2007,

Simply Put: PlayStation 3 SKUs in a Venn Diagram

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Confused by all of those PlayStation 3 models? Not sure which have backwards compatibility powered by hardware, which have Wi-Fi, and which can allow for up to a certain number of hours of DVD-quality pornography? Chris Kohler and Game|Life have you covered, all thanks to a handy venn diagram, which you can see above.

Stores should just hang this up next to the PlayStation 3 displays, perhaps along with some Tylenol and an arrow directing them to the Xbox 360, Wii, and PlayStation 2 areas.

Who said the things you learn in math class don’t apply to real life?

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19 Comments on Simply Put: PlayStation 3 SKUs in a Venn Diagram

Norbit

On October 25, 2007 at 7:30 pm

“Stores should just hang this up next to the PlayStation 3 displays, perhaps along with some Tylenol and an arrow directing them to the Xbox 360″

Yeah ‘cos that will help :roll: There are only 3 PS3 SKUs on sale which is a lot easier to deal with than this:

Xbox 360 Elite System
Xbox 360 Pro Value Bundle
Xbox 360 20GB(with HDMI)
Xbox 360 20GB(without HDMI)
Xbox 360 Console Halo 3 Special Edition (with HDMI)
Xbox 360 Core Console System

Chris

On October 25, 2007 at 7:37 pm

Funny how you immediately single out the Xbox 360, as that was only one of the three systems I mentioned.

Bit of a fanboy?

As for what you have there, aside from the specifics (i.e. Halo system is obvious, Core is phased out, HDMI probably doesn’t matter to you if you don’t know what it is and the non-HDMI systems are probably sold out by now) at least those systems have _names_. Elite, Pro, Arcade, Halo; beats the hell out of 20GB, 40GB, etc.

Norbit

On October 25, 2007 at 7:55 pm

“Funny how you immediately single out the Xbox 360, as that was only one of the three systems I mentioned. Bit of a fanboy?”

I singled it out because there are more versions of it on sale than there are PS3s which made your suggestion that it would be easier to look at them completely idiotic. How exactly would looking at the 360 sections with 6 SKUs be less confusing than the 3 PS3s?

Look on Amazon. All of those 360s are still on sale.

I terribly sorry if you cant take criticisms but what you said was dumb.

Nemeis

On October 25, 2007 at 7:56 pm

um no – 20 GB, 40GB, ect. is easier then Elite, Pro, Arcade, Halo.

Just by looking at 20GB, 40GB, ect. you can tell which is better. The one with the highest #.

Looking at Elite Pro, Arcade, Halo – you need to look that stuff up.

Joelteon7

On October 25, 2007 at 8:02 pm

Not necessarily Nemesis, as it would seem the best unit to get would be the 60gb one, which isn’t the ‘best’ by your terms.

I’m not going to defend either console for having a stupid amount of variety. Crap! I just forgot about the slim-line versions of the PS units too…that’s gonna get very confusing when they come out. The diagram makes me go a bit boggled-eye too.

I think I know why people are buying the Wii; it’s the only console that doesn’t nark you off when you’re trying to decide which version of it to get.

used cisco

On October 25, 2007 at 8:11 pm

I looked at this diagram for 3 minutes and I can’t find the model that is worth buying. Is there something missing here? ;)

Chris

On October 25, 2007 at 8:19 pm

Nemeis (Nemesis?) – That’s not true. I don’t see how the extra space available in the 80GB outweighs the complete backwards compatibility of the 60GB model.

Norbit – If you can find an actual store that actually has all those systems, I will be entirely shocked. And I also don’t see how you can argue that the Xbox 360 models are as confusing as the PS3′s. With the Xbox 360 you’re basically looking at a color (Halo 3) or a hard drive (Premium vs. Core/Arcade). The bundle is simply adding games, so you can’t argue that’s confusing on either side. (There are MotorStorm PS3 bundles out there, don’t forget.) The HDMI is a non-issue because, as I said, I doubt any stores carry them both and if you don’t know enough about this, chances are you don’t need HDMI.

PS3 on the other hand has fundamental differences in terms of Wi-Fi functionality, backwards compatibility (which is much more confusing than anything else in this argument), the number of USB ports… this isn’t a knock on the PS3, so I don’t see why you’re so defensive over this.

grayfox2

On October 25, 2007 at 8:22 pm

Two things are missing. A footnote that the 360 is a TOTAL ripoff, and that the PS3 is SOMEWHAT worth it, but should be waited on until MGS4 because WarHawk is only so much fun. Although I’m loving these Blu-Ray movies on my 37″ LCD in my bedroom.

xx-Thor-xx

On October 26, 2007 at 1:03 am

they both have strong selling points but they both have things that kinda suck about them;

PS3
-good: built in hd output/blu-ray player, large hard drives, future outlook on games is good, free online
-bad: costs an arm and a leg, kind of big, has too many fanboys

X360
-good: has a large library of good games, relatively cheap, good online support, future outlook on games is good
-bad: RROD, too many little/annoying kids on live, the whole hdmi situation

@grayfox2- some people buy consoles to play games on. there are a bunch of good games on the 360, bioshock and gears come to mind.

sure those are on pc too but pc isn’t a ps3 is it? as soon as the after christmas sales start rolling around i will probably pick up a ps3.

zs450

On October 26, 2007 at 3:27 am

It’s funny how PS3 fans always throw in something about the Blu-Ray drive, yet, articles have been published saying that the vast majority of PS3 (and 360) owners don’t even know that they can play regular DVDs. People buy gaming machines to play games…. :shock:

About the comment of the HDD being the indicator of the best system, others have already talked about the actual hardware differnce but, even if they were all the same then the best PS3 deal would be the smallest hard drive. That may sound crazy, but, you can put your own HDD of whatever size you like in there so why not buy a 20GB and swap it out for a 160GB drive that costs less than $100 *the difference in price of the system*. The only thing that you get different in the 360 is the HDD. You get nothing, 20GB, or 120 GB. You’ll have a hard time finding one now that doesn’t have HDMI on shelves so that point has no weight, however, the PS3 60GB is starting to be hard to find. I’m still seeing them long after Sony said they were sold out though.

The biggest point that the last poster hit is games! It was about three months after the 360 launched before the games started rolling in and all of the other fanboys were trashing MS saying that it wasn’t ready for primetime…..where are you now? It’s almost been a year since the PS3 launched and I can’t find a PS3 owner that I know who doesn’t spend more time on a 360 or Wii because of the lack of titles and I know some serious fanboys. Even the Wii has quite a bit of nothing to keep any other than a casual gamers interest for long. I’ve got one collecting dust between good game releases and vistors stopping by the house.

Anyway, to satisfy the masses, I think Chris should do an equivolent chart for the 360. The only one that doens’t need a chart is the Wii, unless Nintendo decides to start offering Gameboyesque options in colors and form factor while chaning no functions, it’s pretty straight foward.

Norbit

On October 26, 2007 at 4:42 am

Chris said: “Norbit – If you can find an actual store that actually has all those systems, I will be entirely shocked.”

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=vg_nav_hp_x360/105-1683061-7974053?ie=UTF8&node=14220161&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_r=03NGGWA8JDMWQB443SSN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=303649601&pf_rd_i=468642

Amazon is an actual store. Its definitely not a fantasy.

There probably isn’t a ‘physical store’ (if that’s what you meant) that stocks all of them but I doubt there are any physical stores that stock the 4 PS3 SKUs in your dumb diagram or even the 3 that are still on sale.

“PS3 on the other hand has fundamental differences in terms of Wi-Fi functionality, backwards compatibility (which is much more confusing than anything else in this argument), the number of USB ports… this isn’t a knock on the PS3, so I don’t see why you’re so defensive over this.”

I’m not defensive, I’m pointing out what you said was retarded. You pointed people in the direction of the 360 because of the ‘confusing situation’ with the PS3. That was stupid because any idiot can see the 360 situation is far worse.

Of course there are differences in the PS3s however you are wrong about WiFi.

EVERY PS3 ON SALE has a hard drive, WiFi and HDMI. The only differences are Backwards compatibility, # of USB ports, card readers and hard drive size. None of those 4 things will prevent you from hooking it up to your tv, connecting to your wireless router or downloading games.

If someone wants to buy a console to download a lot of games from the net and play online they can buy any PS3 and do so.

On the other hand there are 2 360 SKUs that dont have hard drives and cant perform that role. All of the other 4 would also require the purchase of a Gold Live account which makes the situation even more confusing as does the fact that WiFi is an extra also.

The FACT is Sony’s range of PS3s is smaller and less confusing that Microsofts range of 360s. I’m sorry if that doesn’t fit in with your agenda but it is a fact and no amount of deliberately misleading diagrams and ignoring facts will change that.

I just remembered it was you that posted the interview with Thomas Bidaux the other day where he was generally positive about Home even saying it had the potential to be ‘very, very good’ but you decided to pick the only remotely negative sentence in the article for your headline to try and change the tone of it from being generally positive to negative. Pathetic and really, really bad journalism. Not as bad as this article however.

Chris

On October 26, 2007 at 9:45 am

Why is it a dumb diagram, Norbit? You seem as if you’d be laughing it up had it been about the Xbox 360.

And no, not any idiot can see the 360 situation is worse. I asked around just to see if I was the only one, and every person I asked agreed that the PS3′s SKU assortment confused them more than the 360′s.

For clarity’s sake, there’s no Wi-Fi in the 20GB PS3, but yes, every system being sold now does have it built in.

This is about the various SKU assortments, not the need to get online and download stuff. I agree, though; Live shouldn’t be an extra hurdle and should be free.

Ah, another jab at my “agenda.” Sorry if disagreeing with a fanboy mentality automatically means that I’m being paid by Microsoft to spread slander. They mustn’t have paid enough, since most of the news I’ve covered recently was PS3-related, and most of it in a positive tone.

You point to the Bidaux interview, but completely ignore all of the times I’ve called Microsoft out, so I’m not even going to address this point.

If you think the PS3′s SKUs are less confusing, that’s fine. I disagree. Either way, this venn diagram simply shows the differences with a twist of humor which apparently has made your PS3 fanboy (or anti-Microsoft fanboy) freak out. Ditto for the arrow to the Xbox 360/PS2/Wii sections, which was a joke, one you clearly didn’t get due to the aforementioned fanboy freak out.

Norbit

On October 26, 2007 at 1:00 pm

The diagram is dumb because it includes 1 SKU that was withdrawn 6 months ago, 1 SKU that is being withdrawn and one that isn’t even in shops until next month. How is that supposed to represent the choices currently available? It isn’t. Its supposed to make things look a damn sight more confusing than they are.

Your agenda is to get people reading your articles and to do that you are falling into the same foolish trap so many people have which is simply to put down Sony as much as possible. Even your Ratchet & Clank article mentions the only negative thing you can find in its title. There was never any online mode announced for it so how is not having it news? The fact that you have managed to make some posts about Sony that haven’t been biased against them doesn’t mean the ones you have just go away.

I have no problem at all with you poking fun at the amount of the PS3′s SKUs but the insinuation you made in your article about the 360 lineup being less confusing was stupid. That’s what annoys me. Can you not understand that? Poke all the fun you want AS LONG AS ITS BASED IN FACT. 6 SKUs is more confusing that 3. I dont care how many friends you lie about agreeing with you. It would have made perfect sense and would have been amusing if it just said PS2 and Wii but you are obviously too stubborn to just admit you shouldn’t have included the 360 as well.

“You point to the Bidaux interview, but completely ignore all of the times I’ve called Microsoft out, so I’m not even going to address this point.”

How many times have you posted a quote from someone talking about Microsoft in a way that deliberately misleads a reader into thinking the interviewee holds completely different opinions to their real ones? That’s what you did with that interview. You selected the only thing in the entire piece that could be spun negatively and ran with that.

I did notice however that yesterday instead of reporting that Microsoft had SHIPPED 13.4m 360s for some reason you changed it to SOLD 13.4m.

Innocent mistake?

xx-Thor-xx

On October 26, 2007 at 1:06 pm

“It’s funny how PS3 fans always throw in something about the Blu-Ray drive” im not a “fan” of any one particular console. PC is my bread and butter, my blu-ray drive is in it, the majority of my games are on it, my gaming life centers around the jack of all trades windows machine. i was simply putting a few of the pros and cons of each system to show that they both have reasons to get one but that neither system is infallible. that wasn’t my way of saying which is better, imo they both suck since they will never be as adaptable as a pc to any given situation.

zs450

On October 26, 2007 at 5:38 pm

xx-Thor-xx

Sorry to lump you into the group of Lemmings, you obviously don’t fall into the fanboy crowd.

I’m also a PC gamer, but, I have to say that only recently has PC gotten back to games that I enojy better than the consoles. I’m not a MMO player and I’ve had my fill of period games. Those games that have been multiplatform have been a toss-up. I got Shadowrun for PC because it was the same gane but cheaper and Bioshock because it actually is better on the PC IMO. The PC does have limitations though, namely developers. There has been a shift in focus with the console penetration and PC gamers seem to now be getting the short end of the stick. I don’t mind because I like gaming on anything that I can game on.

used cisco

On October 27, 2007 at 8:06 am

I thought the diagram was funny.

Dac

On October 29, 2007 at 12:33 am

I think we’re all simply forgetting the fact that the PS3 is garbage. And not even, like, garbage you find outside for free! It’s garbage they make you pay extreme amounts of money for! While that doesn’t seem fair to me, I can understand Sony’s position on wanting to make money by selling crap. I mean, some guy sold a fart in a jar on eBay for around 40 bucks. Same principle.

~Dac

Fromps

On June 6, 2008 at 2:58 am

Well there’s those PS3 types, the Xbox 360 plethora of types, then there’s just 1 Wii, since you can’t really make it better/worse without making a new console.

nutzelfutz

On July 14, 2008 at 2:13 am

This is just stupid…
Facts are:
The Wii has just one SKU.
The PS3 currently comes in two flavors – 40 GB and 80 GB.
The X360 has three variations – Arcade (no HDD), 20 GB (Pro) and 120 GB (elite).
It seems the 20 GB edition will soon be replaced by a 60 GB edition…
All X360s come with HDMI – the older models aren’t manufactured any more.

What should be considered is the following issue:
EU gamers don’t have any choice in this matter – they only get the 40 GB PS3 without backwards compatibility.
And: While the X360 has been constantly improved upon since release – it now has built-in HDMI 1080p output, all SKUs come with wireless controllers and the firmware bugs have been ironed out (the current edition doesn’t RRoD on you, so stop bringing this up) – the PS3 features have only been reduced. No twin HDMI, only one Ethernet port, no backwards compatibility, reduced CPU speed… Sure, they now have a rumble-enabled controller, pressing the home button allows you to access system options in-game, and select games have ‘trophies’, but all that has been in the X360 firmware from day one.