TOR: Patch 1.1 and the End of the Free Month — Will You Keep Your Subscription?

Tomorrow was meant to mark a day of celebration in the Old Republic: the much-vaunted, “Get those level 50s out of my ****ing PvP Day.” Or, if you’re on the other end of the issue, “Get those ****ing noobs out of my PvP Day.” Here at Game Front, we don’t discriminate.

TOR’s Patch 1.1 was supposed to release January 17, but has been postponed to “some time within the next few days,” which is only slightly less nebulous a timeframe than “soon.” Needless to say, this has made a couple players unhappy.

While the patch contains a bounty of bug fixes, the feature many of us have been looking most forward to is the segregation of level 50 characters from everyone else in Warzones. Too often do PvP matches boil down to which team is loaded with more level 50s — and it seems we’ll have to keep suffering for another “few days.”

The inbuilt mechanic that bolsters everyone’s stats to that of a level 50 does a serviceable job leveling the playing field for characters up to level 49, but the advantages in gear and abilities held by level 50s puts them over the top. The 50s are professional NFL athletes playing with a junior High School team, leaving both parties wondering why they’re stuck with each other.

Sure, some of those 50s get their jollies tackling the 98 lb. prepubescent asthmatic, and the thrill of contributing to the take-down of a 50 grants more satisfaction than any Flashpoint boss. But overall, Warzones simply don’t work without balanced teams — and that’s one of many reasons players are canceling their subscriptions.

That’s right — this has all been a roundabout way of arriving at the crux of my point: TOR’s subscription-free month is coming to an end, meaning a portion of the player base will vanish before February rolls around. Patch 1.1 could contribute to the retention of players during this culling, but only if it releases in time.

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11 Comments on TOR: Patch 1.1 and the End of the Free Month — Will You Keep Your Subscription?

Phil Owen

On January 17, 2012 at 2:12 am

I thought for sure, seeing as how I don’t normally play MMOs, that I wouldn’t keep playing after 30 days, but now I’m leaning toward sticking around. It’s just that damn good.

Warp

On January 17, 2012 at 3:54 am

*PvE feels like a single player game with chat
*No LFG tool
*Fanboys ruin the community
*No Addon support or macros
*Long travel distances

Quite honestly all of these points i agree completly with

The game feels like a singleplayer game (and probly would have done better as one aswell) beyond the heroic quests and the world bosses theres not much else i need other people for so they quite simply become white noise (i.e Chat)

TOR currently has a LFG tool however nobody uses the current LFG tool, why? Because nobody uses it and nobody picks people out of it if you go /who lfg in TOR you at most find 2-3 who are not queing for the same FP as you are.

Third point is no suprise biodefenders have always been the most horrible bunch of anti-wow trolls that the internet has ever seen, they oppose anything and everything simply because ”Wow did it so no thanks”, in a way they are more hell bent on killing the game then WoW fanboys they accuse of wanting the game to end up like a ”failed wow clone”.

No addon support, I dont give a damn about macros but i want my damage meter DAMNIT, i want to see if i need to read up and play better or if i am doing good and i dont want to have to go through a combat log worth of math to try to gauge that, I cannot realisticly stop in the middle of a flashpoint just to say ”Brb calculating my damage guys this will take about 20 mins”.

Travel distances are too long, putting this quite simply the world is too damn large and mounts are not fast enough to prevent it from feeling like it takes 15-20 mins to run from the quest hub to the quest location and then 30 mins to GRIND the quests themselves and then 15-20 mins to get back to the quest hub needless to say this breeds alot of frustration (might explain my high DS point score…) and voice acting having to listen to someone talk for 10 minutes just to get to the ”Accept?” button is…bull****.

I also want to add that low level flashpoints are dying off because quite simply nobody ever does them anymore (which quite honestly i blame entirely on the LFG tool not doing its job).

I will stay on the game untill about march, if bioware has not fixed atleast 3 of these points i will not be buying anymore time and will go back to WoW.

Luther

On January 17, 2012 at 5:13 am

@Warp
*PvE feels like a single player game with chat

What game doesn’t feel like a single player game when you are leveling? Actually this game is one of the few that truly encourages you to level with friends except for the lack of money you make, but you do level faster then by yourself doing the same quests, and doing the cut scenes with friends is fun!

*No LFG tool

Yeah that can be annoying but general chat is always buzzing!

*Fanboys ruin the community

Like wow fan boy’s that want instant travel and instant epic loots with instant one hit kills on uber world boss’s without ever leaving the fleet?

*No Addon support or macros

Yeah It would be nice to get a couple macros in there!, As for addon’s I was a really big supporter for addon support back with rift since they didn’t support them ether at launch, but with this game it feels a little more casual for me for the time being so I’m going to sit this one out on the addon’s tell I experience some end game raids. It’s fun thinking back to Burning Crusade having all my mods to help with Sunwell, back when it was the hardest instance ever made in wow to this day, having to theory craft all my stats based on guild dynamics and healing make up for the most grueling healing I ever had to do, made black temple seem like a walk in the park. (only about 4% of all guilds in the world finished sunwell, 10% downed the first boss)

I’m glad I don’t have to be that way with this game.

*Long travel distances

Well the travel time IMO is about perfect, it almost seems too fast with the instant recall you get that’s on a short cool down.

Warp

On January 17, 2012 at 7:22 am

@Luther

”What game doesn’t feel like a single player game when you are leveling?”

World of Warcraft for one, i’v spend about 90% of time in dungeons getting good gear and talking to people not to mention guild runs.

”Yeah that can be annoying but general chat is always buzzing!”

Sure is, everytime someone asks for help on one of the heroics ofcourse nobody ever responds to that guy (or they whisper him) and the guys who ask for flashpoints are more often then not ignored as i never see any LFM message to follow up the LFG messages.

”Like wow fan boy’s that want instant travel and instant epic loots with instant one hit kills on uber world boss’s without ever leaving the fleet?”

Lol biodefender sterotpying, all i have seen ”WoW players” ask for in SWTOR is the basic cut away of fat and trim the game up to compete with actual games like WoW, but then again you biodefenders dont give a toss about this game you just want to rage against WoW and call it a failiure just because YOU did not like it.

”Well the travel time IMO is about perfect, it almost seems too fast with the instant recall you get that’s on a short cool down.”

The instant recall is on a 30 min cooldown which is way too long and the maps are HUGE and filled with hostiles that will knock you off your speeder every 100 meters or so and most of time you cant avoid them either and it does not help that the hostiles basicly have the respawn rates of a super charge roach.

Like 90% of the quests consits entire you getting to actual quest locations and then fighting some elite/strong level mob and then running all the way back, Its a stupid time sink the game does not need.

xix

On January 17, 2012 at 12:17 pm

>World of Warcraft for one, i’v spend about 90% of time in dungeons getting good gear and talking to people not to mention guild runs.

Right. 90% of the time doing a dungeon and not exploring the environment or questing. Its like getting the fast food of an MMO instead of that hard earned delicious roast.

>Sure is, everytime someone asks for help on one of the heroics ofcourse nobody ever responds to that guy (or they whisper him) and the guys who ask for flashpoints are more often then not ignored as i never see any LFM message to follow up the LFG messages.

That’s a specific server issue. I’ve rolled on Vrook Lamar (RP) and Saber of Exar Khun (PVP) and both servers’ general chat was helpful.

>The instant recall is on a 30 min cooldown which is way too long and the maps are HUGE and filled with hostiles that will knock you off your speeder every 100 meters or so and most of time you cant avoid them either and it does not help that the hostiles basicly have the respawn rates of a super charge roach.

Yeah, stupid Bioware giving us large areas to roam and quest in. They should’ve just made a Molton Front style daily hub *sarcasm*

Warp

On January 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm

”Right. 90% of the time doing a dungeon and not exploring the environment or questing. Its like getting the fast food of an MMO instead of that hard earned delicious roas”

Dungeon quests do exist also are you imply that i the tank do not work for the boss kills i get? besides the point was that i could get into dungeons in WoW and i could get better gear, in TOR low level flashpoints might aswell not exist because nobody ever does them anymore or groups just fall apart the minute they wipe.

”That’s a specific server issue. I’ve rolled on Vrook Lamar (RP) and Saber of Exar Khun (PVP) and both servers’ general chat was helpful.”

I am playing on 4 diffrent servers and they are all exactly like i discribed so no its not a server specific problem.

”Yeah, stupid Bioware giving us large areas to roam and quest in. They should’ve just made a Molton Front style daily hub *sarcasm”

Large areas are fine, Large areas that i cannot traverse at a good rate and are filled to the brink with mobs that will attack me and force me to go even slower and GRIND my way through an entire area just to have them respawn 2 mins later is not fine.

Luther

On January 17, 2012 at 6:36 pm

@Warp

I think the problem is you want this game to be something that it isn’t.

Wow was the first game to introduce instant travel to everything with super fast flying mounts that to this day the wow devs wish they never would of added but can’t take away now do to fanrage.

Most mmo’s want you to have a group effort in getting to somewhere or doing something, plus its not really about the destination but the journey there.

One of the big negatives that wow players have is the feeling like they “need” everything right away without much effort, sure you can level in this game doing 4 man heroics all day long, or flash points instead of questing so you can have uber loots but so what? no one gives a damn about your gear tell lv 50 anyways so do what you enjoy the most.

If you hate leveling in mmo’s then you might want to stop playing them or stay with wow, if you cant get instant groups for your heroics or flash points and it piss’s you off to a point you can’t enjoy yourself then this game isn’t for you. Just so you know not everyone feel’s the same as you, just because you are upset doesn’t mean everyone else is, this game is going to do just fine.

Ray

On January 17, 2012 at 11:27 pm

There IS NO LFG tool. There is a pathetic notation that you can notify peeps that you want to do a dungeon. There is no auto grouping tool, period.

Warp

On January 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm

”I think the problem is you want this game to be something that it isn’t.”

You mean like fun? No heaven forbid i have any fun in an MMO!

Sarcasm aside im not trying to get this game to be anything, im poiting out flaws and thats it.

”the wow devs wish they never would of added”

You can either prove that or admit that your lying, i am quite sure that its the last mentioned.

”One of the big negatives that wow players have is the feeling like they “need” everything right away without much effort”

Such as?

”sure you can level in this game doing 4 man heroics all day long, or flash points”

No you cant, you wont be able to get groups enough to get a days worth of flashpoints or even heroic quests especially at low levels, infact if you even get one run of any FPs you could probly chalk it up to luck and move on.

”no one gives a damn about your gear tell 50 anyways”

And i dont give a damn what people think of my gear level 1-50 but it is MY opinion of my gear that matters and i am not comfortable in crappy greens that bearly get me past the quest boss or orange items that force me to buy mods off GM every 5 level or so to keep up with the content.

”if you cant get instant groups for your heroics or flash points and it piss’s you off to a point you can’t enjoy yourself then this game isn’t for you”

Yes because its entirely my fault that nobody uses the LFG tool and nobody answers me when i ask for Flahspoint groups? Biodefender bull**** and blame it on the player attitude right there.

”If you hate leveling in mmo’s”

And where did i say this?

Derek

On January 18, 2012 at 1:23 pm

I’ve been able to run Essels 5 times, Hammer Station 3 times, Athis twice, and Mandalorian Raiders once. Got a level 28 Guardian on Telos Restoration Project. Lower pop server… never had any trouble finding people. Personally, as a recovering WoW player, I enjoy the fact that I can just go off and complete the story and not hve to invest a great deal of time into making sure I’m on with my group. There is some credence to the “Feels like a single player game”… In fact, while I’ve enjoyed the group interaction, FPs, and Heroics, I wish it had been a massive single player game. I’d have been preferable to sit with my 360 controller and have 2 or 3 of my companions out running with me while I experienced a vast galaxy. That to me is the significant difference. WoW does a lot of things right for an MMO environment. I think Bioware wanted to try and bring MMO to a story driven game. For those that enjoy the WoW style of game play this game is not offering anywhere near what they want. I’m not going to say that’s bad, it is however not good for the subscription model of the game.

Adam

On January 19, 2012 at 12:28 pm

The biggest problem with this game is the awful pvp. If u can even call playing hutball pvp. There are no arenas. Illum is broken. There is absolutely nothing to do at 50. How does bioware expect to keep collecting monthly sub fees when you are left with nothing to do at max level? When I quit cata for this game I declared that I would never buy another wow expansion. Now I cannot wait for expansion 4. At least I’ll have something to do til diablo 3/gw2. Cancelled my subscription today. Best decision I’ve ever made!