Torchlight 2 vs. Diablo 3: Two Different Approaches to the ARPG


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Contents:

Page 1: Character Creation, Skills, Pace
Page 2: Loot, Trading, Replay Value, Music & Visuals
Page 3: Story, Endgame, Modding
Page 4: Multiplayer, PvP, Price, Final Thoughts


Why does the gaming community insist on comparing Torchlight 2 and Diablo 3? Yes, they’re both action RPGs. Yes, they’ve released within a few months of each other. Yes, they are superficially similar games.

But the most important reason is because when D3 disappointed some fans of the Diablo series, they turned to TL2 as the true sequel to Diablo 2 — from purely a gameplay perspective, of course.

Three key members of Blizzard North, the now-defunct division of Blizzard Entertainment that created Diablo and Diablo 2, now work at Runic Games and helped develop TL2: Erich and Max Schaefer, former project and design leads of the Diablo series who co-founded Runic in 2008 with Travis Baldree and Peter Hu, as well as Matt Uelmen, sound designer and composer of D1 and D2′s soundtrack, who joined Runic in 2009.

What did the former Blizzard North members bring to the Torchlight series? Matt Uelmen told Game Front:

“I think the Schaefers and myself try to bring a “big picture” approach. Our experiences and the ups and downs we’ve all had have given us a little more perspective and a little less ego than some might expect. I think all three of us really try to focus on the gameplay experience itself, and everyone at Runic tries to pitch in to fill the gap if we have a particular function that needs help.”

Let’s see how the influence of this shard of Blizzard North, as well as the work of the rest of Runic’s 30-man team, differentiates TL2 from D3.

Character Creation

TL2 offers players four classes to choose from, versus D3′s five classes. TL2′s classes feel more archetypical than D3′s, and while neither provide truly vanilla warrior/mage/archer options, D3′s characters have more flair and personality. What other game lets you play as a big bad voodoo daddy?

Both games allow you to select the gender of your character, but only TL2 allows you to customize your character’s appearance.

At character creation, TL2 has you select one of several “pets,” which include cats, wolves, hawks and much more. Your pet companion follows you around, helps you in combat, but can also be used to venture back to town with a stash of items you want to sell and a shopping list of items you’d like to buy while you continue your dungeon crawl uninterrupted. I’m not sure I’ll be able to play any other ARPG and not miss this added convenience.

Instead of pets, D3 has followers, which you meet in your travels throughout the campaign. At any given time, players can have one of the three available followers currently “active” and accompanying them in combat. Followers level up, have skills the player can choose, and engage in colorful banter.

TL2′s pets bring with them an ingenious convenience feature that D3′s followers lack, but D3′s followers add more tactical choices for players to make.

Bottom line: If you want a cute pet that sells loot and buys potions for you, pick TL2. If you want a hero seeped in style and backstory with a sidekick that has a story of her own, pick D3.

Skills

This quintessential element of any RPG is handled completely differently by TL2 and D3: skill trees. In fact, neither game ran with the traditional “tree” approach at all, though TL2′s system is far more conventional than D3′s. Arguably, each game’s skill design methodology implies that the others’ is inferior.

In TL2, you gain skill points as you level up, and every skill unlocks at a certain level. You gain the use of a skill by placing a skill point in it and can improve that skill by investing more points into it. The game allows you to “undo” your last three skill point expenditures at the cost of gold, but your choices are otherwise locked in.

In D3, there are no skill points; at any given time, you can have a certain number of skills. Every skill becomes available to the player at a certain level, and every skill has seven “runes” that unlock as the player levels up that modify their respective skill in a unique way. Players are free to change which skills or runes they have selected at no cost.

D3′s system allows players to experiment with the full spectrum of skills available to them, while TL2 makes players commit to their choices. Because of this, I felt far more variety in skill usage in D3 than in TL2.

Bottom line: If you want a unique character build and decisions that permanently affect your character, pick TL2. If you want to experiment at will, without restrictions, pick D3.

Pace

While both games boil down to furiously clicking critters to death by the drove, TL2 does feel like the faster-paced game. Movement speed is faster, you level up faster, loot comes faster, and it takes less time to beat the game. While faster doesn’t necessarily mean better, in this case… faster is better. The faster pace gives TL2 an edge over D3.

Bottom line: If you want a fast-paced game that rewards you constantly, pick TL2. If you want a slower (but still fast) experience and a campaign that takes longer to beat, pick D3.

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10 Comments on Torchlight 2 vs. Diablo 3: Two Different Approaches to the ARPG

Patches

On September 26, 2012 at 9:51 pm

TL:DR=

Diablo 3 = One approach is broken and constantly need Nerfing/Buffing/Tweaking and is slaved to its RMAH/Online-Only ‘security’…

Torchlight 2 = One approach is the one we already know and love. And work fine right from the start…

Devastator001

On September 26, 2012 at 10:41 pm

@Patches

Bravo… another example of troll trying to turning a solid attempt at a neutral breakdown of two games into another turf war.

Aids

On September 26, 2012 at 11:01 pm

I like Diablo 1 more. TOWN KILL ALL

max

On September 27, 2012 at 8:20 am

i alwase been a diablo 2 fan, so its torchlight 2 for me, All those WoW nerdz can go play D3 any time for all i care.

max

On September 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm

u can even alwase duel in torchlight 2 i tryed it with a friend yesterday it was very fun, at any time u can type /pvp and duel any 1 who has typed it /pvp, so No more PKers only Fun, diablo 3 dosent even have such a simple features as duels, why the *ucking a game that took 5 years to make dosent even have duels in it ? seriously diablo 3 is an epic fail. the game can last for a couple of months, but never even will it last a year, and 10 years ? U wish BLIZZARD. BURY THAT GAME DEEP so we never hear from it again, What a shame how could they ruin the game that could of been the Best on earth. instead they made it a WoW diablo version, what a *ucking joke i alwase hated WoW, and loved diablo 2, now i have to hate diablo 3, wow if some 1 had told me this 5 years ago, i would of said he was crazy, but now it happened, Epic Fail GG blizzard owned, Remake. (like we used to say in d2)

Patches

On September 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm

@ Devastator001

You’re welcome…

That ‘neutral breakdown’ would only try to make acceptable an unacceptable business practice of releasing a broken game, an artificially rigid DRM under cover of anti-piracy and/or RMAH protection and an overall greedy business practice… You can also add to that the complete lack of repect for the customers and the long time fans of the Diablo serie…

Jim

On September 28, 2012 at 11:48 pm

For a $20 indie-developed game to be compared to a $60 game created by a multi-million dollar company really says something about their own inherent qualities.

Swcloud99

On September 30, 2012 at 9:03 am

@Patches
Alright, so you didn’t read the article and you’re criticising it’s conclusions?
Seriously, read it. It might be neutral but the conclusion is: Diablo 3 has good points but, Blizzard sucks, Torchlight is more fun and costs less money.
Although it manages to imply it in the fairest of manners. Way better than making some ass comment about stuff everyone is saying. This is actually a quality article.
I won’t go so far has calling you a troll, I don’t believe you are, people on the internet throw that around way too often, but I do think you have preconceived notions born of laziness.

David

On October 22, 2012 at 12:42 am

@Patches

Diablo 3 keep getting more refined every month

TL3 : Except for bug fixes and the mod tools I dont see this game growing past the point where it is now.

Ian Miles Cheong

On January 12, 2013 at 10:43 am

I honestly prefer Torchlight 2 because of the soundtrack.