Posted on November 12, 2007,

Unreal Tournament 3 Incorporates GameSpy

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It seems odd that an announcement like this would come so late in the development cycle (UT3 releases this month on PC), but Epic and IGN today announced that GameSpy will be incorporated into Unreal Tournament 3 on both PC and PlayStation 3. This isn’t unexpected by any means, as just recently it was announced that GameSpy was going to be incorporated into Unreal Engine 3.

GameSpy provides a variety of things, including VoIP, stat tracking, messaging, and leaderboards. This technology will be implemented into both the PC and PS3 versions of the game, although the extent of these features that will be seen in the PS3 game remains to be seen.

This seems like a bit of a slap in the face for Microsoft and their Games for Windows Live service. Maybe if there was no tiered level to the service, Epic would have more strongly considered Live. As it stands, this reinforces the usage of yet another online gaming service in what is becoming a very congested market.

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17 Comments on Unreal Tournament 3 Incorporates GameSpy

Joelteon7

On November 12, 2007 at 4:26 pm

First reason in a long-time to not get the game then. GameSpy is a complete and utter joke. Could they not have used some other, better, provider? This just disappoints me.

Nicklass

On November 12, 2007 at 4:57 pm

Will it work with Xfire ??

weclock

On November 12, 2007 at 5:27 pm

Steam steam steam, forget that I’ll use steam.

Phil Migrowen

On November 12, 2007 at 5:43 pm

“GameSpy is a complete and utter joke.”

You are an idiot. Gamespy has been the most stable and reliable online gaming service provider of the past ten years. Unlike other services which have come and gone or which discontinue support for older games, Gamespy is still standing and still supports every game it ever has.

UT2003/4 also supports server reporting to Gamespy, but unfortunately its built-in server browser doesn’t retrieve a server list from Gamespy. Given that Epic’s master server has failed a number of times over the years, having Gamespy as a backup master server was a great little-known secret whenever Epic’s went down for those who used Gamespy Arcade and Gamespy3D. It’s good to see that Epic is finally rectifying that omission by providing better Gamespy support in UT3.

Joelteon7

On November 12, 2007 at 6:53 pm

Yup, my opinion makes me an idiot. I just love internet discussions, get real mature approaches here.

I don’t care if it’s the most stable or reliable. I’m a stable and reliable person, that doesn’t alone make me a good person and the same principle applies here. Should you be so inclined as to want to go through GameSpy Arcade (why o why?!) after facing wall after wall of advertisements (to which subscribing adds what, the removal of these adverts and a few extra lobbys?) through to getting to the actual game lobby’s either presents you with a host of spamming or racial/sexist slurs mixed in with the odd obsenity for good measure. The download service part of it I’m pretty sure works backwards and its functionality has generally left many gamers perplexed as to why something so poor is still used so much?

Then if you go through it in-game, the only advantage is a lack of adverts. On some games, double registering is required taking forever, especially on older but still played games. Oh, also, you’ll see ALL game servers. For some ridiculous reason going through GS itself means that you can’t view all the servers in that lobby. Sufficed to say, that’s simply not good enough. I don’t know why this happens, but it has done so for years.

However the biggest problem I have with it, which is a fundamental one, is that it screws up connections and connection ports and all to do with that. I play Command and Conquer 3 and it pains me when I get 1 out of 5 games to work simply because I know GameSpy can’t connect problem and is having issues.

I’m not the only cynnic of GS. I’m sure there’s some half-hearted forum out there, but most gamers I’ve talked to, be it online or through associate are sick to death of having to use GS. Whilst it pains me to say so, I’d rather use Steam (still doesn’t sound right) because at least that’s MORE reliable, has better and more functionality and actually wants me to connect to the game I’m trying to play. I’m not saying I was happy about it in UT04, but for a game I picked up for cheap, I hardly thought about complaining, however for a game I’d be paying quite a bit for if I were to get it (UT3) I’d be disappointed every time I saw “Hosted by GameSpy”.

I think the fact I can back up my argument and not just say it because I want to, but think it, means I’m certainly not an ‘idiot’. Just like I will respect your opinion, I’d ask you do the same.

xx-Thor-xx

On November 12, 2007 at 6:56 pm

steam has recently been more reliable yea, but i remember about 4 months ago when it wouldnt hold favorite servers… which was a pain. ive never liked gamespy, not because of its service,but because of its UI.

Phil Migrowen

On November 12, 2007 at 7:24 pm

“ive never liked gamespy, not because of its service,but because of its UI.”

Gamespy doesn’t have a uniform UI. It is simply an SDK. Each game’s developers determine the look of the server browser. Some games have better implementations of a server browser for Gamespy’s backend servers than others. There is nothing inherent about Gamespy which makes games which use its services have a poor UI.

Phil Migrowen

On November 12, 2007 at 7:57 pm

“Yup, my opinion makes me an idiot. I just love internet discussions, get real mature approaches here.”

Yes, your uninformed and naive opinion makes you an idiot. The fact that you posted that opinion on a Internet venue doesn’t make it less foolish. In fact it makes it more so because you have justifiably opened yourself up to public criticism for it.

“I’m a stable and reliable person”

Your foolish opinions suggest otherwise.

“Should you be so inclined as to want to go through GameSpy Arcade (why o why?!)”

There is no need to use Gamespy Arcade as games which are “powered by Gamespy” don’t require it. Gamespy Arcade is only needed to play games which don’t have native Gamespy support incorporated into them. I too am not a big fan of Gamespy Arcade because I don’t like its look and presentation, but it does work reliably for its design purpose of providing lobbies for games which don’t have built-in Gamespy support.

“the actual game lobby’s either presents you with a host of spamming or racial/sexist slurs mixed in with the odd obsenity for good measure.”

If your delicate sensibilities are so offended by such verbiage then you should turn on Gamespy’s chat filter which works well at removing such profane words. I personally don’t pay much if any attention to what is said in the Gamespy lobbies since chatting isn’t required to simply join a hosted game session in the lobbies.

“On some games, double registering is required taking forever, especially on older but still played games.”

Few if any games which have native Gamespy support require registering for a Gamespy account. I can only think of one, and it is an obscure game which is not played much. None of the popular native Gamespy games like F.E.A.R. and Halo require a Gamespy account.

“For some ridiculous reason going through GS itself means that you can’t view all the servers in that lobby.”

I have used Gamespy Arcade for years, and that is not true. Name a native Gamespy-supported game where Gamespy Arcade doesn’t show all of that game’s servers. Sure Gamespy Arcade’s country and other filters can prevent some servers from showing, but those can be disabled.

“However the biggest problem I have with it, which is a fundamental one, is that it screws up connections and connection ports and all to do with that.”

Actually I have found that Gamespy’s support of NAT is much better and more reliable than other implementations I have seen. One can actually host a server behind a NAT device without manual port forwarding using Gamespy’s advanced NAT support of the past four years.

“I’m not the only cynnic of GS. I’m sure there’s some half-hearted forum out there, but most gamers I’ve talked to, be it online or through associate are sick to death of having to use GS.”

I find that those like you who complain about Gamespy are simply ignorant of how its service and software works and blame connection issues you have with other users’ hosted games on Gamespy when it is the host’s fault not Gamespy’s.

“Whilst it pains me to say so, I’d rather use Steam (still doesn’t sound right) because at least that’s MORE reliable, has better and more functionality”

Steam is certainly NOT more reliable than Gamespy and never has been. As for functionality, Gamespy can do anything which Steam does when it comes to providing online game services. Gamespy in fact does more than Steam simply because it supports more games than Steam. Steam mainly provides online services for Valve’s own games. Very few third-party games support Steam for their online services even when the game itself is available for purchase via Steam.

“I’m not saying I was happy about it in UT04, but for a game I picked up for cheap, I hardly thought about complaining”

In UT2004, Gamespy is only an optional backup service which is turned off by default. In addition the server browser in UT2004 is all Epic and doesn’t use Gamespy at all. The only way to get a list of the UT2004 servers which also report to Gamespy is to use Gamespy Arcade or Gamespy3D.

“Just like I will respect your opinion, I’d ask you do the same.”

I don’t respect your opinion above because it is simply incorrect.

Joelteon7

On November 13, 2007 at 8:55 am

Then I won’t argue any of your points. If you’re simply going to deny my ‘ignorant’ and ‘misinformed’ opinion from actually being, you sir are the one making a fool of yourself, however, I will honour the fact you made a concise counter argument. Having read it all, I can easily say “I’m good to agree to disagree on the matter” as there are clearly critical points we just aren’t going to agree to, that is of course if you’ll accept that opinion without trying to suggest that I’m ‘an idiot’ for even thinking it up…

Jeff

On November 28, 2007 at 4:55 pm

Phil Migrowen,

You sir, are an arogant **cktard.

idiot.

Ben

On December 7, 2007 at 10:26 am

Agreed.

Steve

On December 10, 2007 at 6:57 am

Phil Migrowen,

You make almost too much sense. Agree with everything you said.

Satsuki

On January 2, 2008 at 5:17 pm

GameSpy sucks.

ing retarded humans and their ignorant competitive arguments.

Compassion? Never. :cry:

Alimas

On February 26, 2008 at 8:33 pm

GameSpy does suck.

Every game I play that uses GameSpy brings with it two things: massive port demands and craptacular performance.
GameSpy’s server hosting sucks, the only games I have problems playing online are the GameSpy ones, lags, disconnects, freezing. I can even play over the modem versus my cable connection and get better service even if someone picks up the phone.

GameSpys a freaking joke and I wish it’d stop polluting my games.

Faces Of War

On July 26, 2008 at 10:18 pm

i hate gamespy. it sucks ass. it sounds like phil migrowen has a lot of knowledge about the nat and flex capacitor and whatever else. but i have always had a nat problem when using gamespy. i am not a computer expert and never will be. i just want to install my game go online and play. i shouldnt have to know what a f*cking nat is or how it works. im a gamer not a programmer. it seems to me that if you are going to offer a service the thing could at least work right without having to do a bunch of b*llsh*t to get it to work. gamespy works when it wants to and gives me problems when it feels like it. i dont know why and dont care to know why they need to just fix the damn problem. i have a life and dont want to spend it trying to get someone elses product to work. i know i dont have to use it but i really like the game and when it does work it is enjoyable. i guess the bottom line is that i dont get paid to do a job and have someone else have to do a f*cking raindance to get the sh*t to work right. thats what i get paid for. i feel gamespy should be the same whether its free or not.

Faces Of War

On July 27, 2008 at 12:35 pm

aahhhh. i feel better now

fuckGamespy

On June 9, 2009 at 7:21 pm

Gamespy pollutes the gaming-community with ads and
incomplete internet-services.

i hope some day someone can tell me how to play UT3
without registering at Gamespy