Why Grand Theft Auto IV Isn’t a 10

GTA IV CoverWe’ve all been watching the hoopla surrounding Grand Theft Auto IV this week. Heck, you can’t avoid watching it. It’s everywhere.

Like most of you, I made my way over to a local retailer Tuesday and picked up my copy. I brought it home, sat through the 4GB install on my PS3, and then leapt in. Judging from the perfect scores that have been thrown at this game like panties at a Wayne Newton concert, I expected to be completely blown away.

Unfortunately, I wasn’t. In fact, I was amazed how much like the previous editions of GTA it was. Now, I’m not one for messing up a good thing. The truth is that I like GTA IV, just as I’ve enjoyed previous iterations of the series. The problem is that it’s receiving perfect scores for a less than perfect game.

Grand Theft Auto IV is basically GTA III with a new character, a lot more voice acting, and an admittedly stunning graphics makeover. It really does little to nothing new, and leaves me wondering if perhaps the preview copies came with some sort of awesome swag we should know about.

This is why I distrust rating systems for games. Games like GTA IV (and Halo 3, etc…) are hyped into the stratosphere, given perfect scores, and then at release are found to be good, but not the shining gem of perfection we were all led to expect. Why can’t people just be content to say something like, “Wow, this game is pretty good, and it’s fun, but it’s really just the same old GTA again. I’d give it a nine.”

No, they have to spout off about how glorious it is, and wax eloquent about its majesty, only to leave us who didn’t play it prior to release feeling somehow slighted by the actual game we receive. Therein lies the tragedy: A good game leaves the gamer feeling somehow cheated because he isn’t experiencing the rapture the previewer obviously did.

Let me reassure you that GTA IV is a good game, even an excellent one. It’s just not perfect, and therefore, not a ten.

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53 Comments on Why Grand Theft Auto IV Isn’t a 10


On May 2, 2008 at 2:03 pm

wells nothing perfect its all about opinions im blown away by the amount of detail there is in it small things such as cars stalling,closing door car hearing music through door but muffled, searching cops data base etc etc i could go on and on forever tiny details rockstar put in it. maybe it is hype but its the best gta of the series and not jus gTA with a new character. think as more pllz rave about it the more pllz try to find faults and drag it down but thats jus life

used cisco

On May 2, 2008 at 2:06 pm

I don’t take “10″ to mean “perfect”. I take it to mean, “Obvious excellence to the point that few games are better”.

That being said, I think you are being absolutely fair in your comments.

This raises an important question for me: Is GTAIV better or worse than it’s earlier incarnations. Obviously graphics are better, but I mean, the game itself?

Thanks for the write up.


On May 2, 2008 at 2:17 pm

Also, like it or not, some reviewers are biased by their payroll department, events such as the whole Jeff Gerstmann situation leave us gamers wondering if we’re getting the full truth when reading reviews.

I usually take reviews with a grain of salt, I rarely trust them with games or movies but I do keep them in consideration. Sure Ill be more willing to buy a game that’s 9/10 than 2/10 but I doesn’t usually persuade me into sealing the deal.


On May 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm

I agree wholeheartedly with this. I believe Yahtzee said something similar in his Halo 3 Zero Punctuation review.

I’ve actually never played any of the GTA games, so I couldn’t compare this to the old ones. I’d give it a very solid 9, personally, possibly a bit more.

Ron Whitaker

On May 2, 2008 at 2:42 pm

Honestly, I’m enjoying GTA IV, and it’s very similar to previous editions. It looks good, and I like the fact that the main character actually talks now. Using the cell phone to get missions or free cab rides is a nice touch as well.

One thing I would point out is that it does seem that Rockstar/Take-Two has grabbed onto the role of ‘moral media envelope pusher.’ There are several scenes in GTA IV early on where objectionable language was added superfluously. 15 minutes in, my cousin took me to a strip club.

I get that it’s mature rated, ok? You don’t have to rub my nose in it.

Shawn Sines

On May 2, 2008 at 2:45 pm

The funny thing for me is that after hours of gameplay.. well I’ve yet to visit the strip club.. and I’ve spent a lot of time dating Michelle, the obvious organized crime taskforce plant and playig pool and bowling.


On May 2, 2008 at 2:46 pm

As IGN stated in their GTA4 review:

“A 10 doesn’t mean a game is perfect — it means a game is pushing boundaries, expanding a genre, and doing many things to a level so far above and beyond its competitors that they overshadows any flaws. Certainly, GTA IV has some issues, the most noticeable being the occasional flaw in the cover system, but there are many more pieces of GTA IV that are better than anything I’ve seen from a game in the past decade. We don’t give 10s often — just to games that merit the score.”


On May 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm

GTA IV didn’t leave the WOW factor that I originally expected but after Halo 3 was hyped to the sky and all I pretty much don’t believ hype anymore and I just like it for what it is….a continuation of a really good unique playing experience. Now granted, I have only played the game for about 3-4 hours on Tuesday night and I plan to play even more tonight and tomorrow night but so far I have felt that the level of detail has improved trmendously compaired to previous games…..and why not it’s on a current-generation gaming system now. It should be better.

You can’t change the way the game plays, people will freak….people are creatures of habit and as such making a great deal of changes to a game that has as much of a following as GTA does is very risky. The devs took the easy way out ….make graphical changes, keep the overall feel and play of the game intact…..they succeeded.

I seriously think any developer other than maybe Capcom with their Mega Man franchise would risk screwing with a format that they know will work. Anyway, just my $.02. :cool:

Go Marlins!!!!

Ron Whitaker

On May 2, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Personally, as I said in the article, I don’t think this game is pushing boundaries. It’s doing just what its predecessors have done, albeit in a more polished way. That’s the main reason I’d say it’s no 10.


On May 2, 2008 at 4:07 pm

If I played GTA III again today, I’d give it a 9. And as reviewers said, 10 doesn’t mean perfect, it means the game is so great, it raises the bar for the genre. And it does. Therefore, GTA IV deserved a 10. If it was as much alike GTA III as you say it is, then it’d deserve a 9, but if you include an exponential amount of detail and an awesome multiplayer component, you can safely add 1 more point to one of the greatest games of all time…. Giving GTA IV a 10!


On May 2, 2008 at 4:15 pm

The story and the addition of the mobile phone lift it way above San Andreas and the depth and detail to Liberty City is simply astonishing.

I would give GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas 10/10 (they were some of the best games of their generations) and this is better in pretty much every way so it gets a 10/10 from me. Bioshock was my best game of this generation so far but imo this is better in every way. Gameplay, story, look, size, replay value, online mode. It also has the best characters of the series so far. Not only do I actually care about my character for the first time but some of the other characters (Brucie for instance) are absolutely brilliant.

A 10/10 doesn’t have to be pushing boundaries (although in terms of creating an immersive world this clearly does) it just has to be one of the best games around, which this is.


On May 2, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Ok, then what makes a game deserve a perfect 10? and is any other game out there a 10?

Note this is not criticism its a question.


On May 2, 2008 at 5:23 pm

wow you are an idiot…simple as that….to say this is the same means u haven’t played more then 6 hours, didn’t even bother trying multiplayer, and dont know jack about games


On May 2, 2008 at 7:03 pm

GTA4 is simply amazing! Its all in the details and the incredible AI and physics. After spending an hour in most games you have seen it all, but in GTA games you still discover new stuff after having played for 40+ hours. So i dont think you have to blame IGN and the like for the 10, this game is truly amazing and set the bar really high for the other developers. Im sure that the people that are angry with the 10 just doesnt get the game and get frustrated seeing all of us being so happy with it…

Chris Anderson

On May 2, 2008 at 7:12 pm

fanboys need to relax, the author is right, there are some faults in this game, it is good but not perfect as he says. Just like the author, i never give games 10/10, especially ones such as this that are improved but still just upgrades. to have a 10/10 game i think it needs to stand on its own and reinvent a genre, not just improve it with modest changes. (making a car radio sound different when the car is close is attention to detail, but far from a revolution). Maybe a game should never be 10/10, there always HAS to be SOMETHING that could be improved on. I also don’t think for a second this game is the best game in the last decade, what about all the titles that have REinvented their genres.


On May 2, 2008 at 8:03 pm

@ Chris Anderson

10/10 should just signify that a game is one of the best games available at that time. ‘re-inventing genres’ and all that non-specific crap. What exactly would GTA4 have to do to fit in with that? If you cant give examples of what should be done or what previous games have done then your criteria is just rambling bollocks.

Did Rome:Total War reinvent a genre? No, it was basically just a huge update on previous games but does that mean it isnt one of the best strategy games ever made and thoroughly deserving of all the 10/10s it got? Did Bioshock reinvent a genre? Of course not but that doesn’t mean it isnt one of the best video games ever made.

I’ve heard some people say that Duke Nukem 3D reinvented the FPS genre while overs claim it was Doom. Many people on the other hand say that Wolfenstein 3D that did it. I’ve heard others say that Halo reinvented the genre on consoles while others would argue the case for Goldeneye.

My point is that ‘reinventing a genre’ is ambiguous claptrap.

You lose all credibility by suggesting that maybe there should never be any 10/10s. That ridiculous because 9 would become the maximum meaning all score would therefore just be 9/9 and then people would start objecting to games getting 9′s and call for them to be scrapped. Maybe all review scores should just be marked 5/5 because no one ever seems to object about perfect 5/5′s?


On May 2, 2008 at 11:07 pm


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On May 3, 2008 at 1:28 am

well i broke down and got it, i said i wouldnt but its the Halo effect (i also got, but hardly play ever), a must own if you feel its a 5 rating or a 10 rating, its still GTA. so yes it has some merit in that alone.

Anyone who plays GTA IV or games of the past GTA have to say its the best yet or pretty damn close. I wont waste time here saying if its a 5-10 rating, its just damn fun, every one will have a different view what its worth. honestly in my oppinion no game is perfect or ever a 10. I also was not blown away by this game because it has predicessors. but its GTA so it is what it is.


On May 3, 2008 at 11:37 am

do you answer your question somewhere in the article ? i don´t even see one feature really compared, it´s all just a bag of hot air. making people to read articles by blowing up a big headline is not really good reporting style.


On May 3, 2008 at 1:58 pm

In that case, throwing perfect scores around lightly is not really good reviewing style either, is it?


On May 3, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Now that I think about it, this is a good reason why people should start using 5 star ratings. Review scores should be a base of a review because it seems that these times people don’t read reviews anymore and just look at a score. That’s why I’m not a very big fan of Metacritic or any of those other things that sum up review scores. Of course I’m mad you didn’t give it a ten, but that’s because I’m a biased GTA fanboy.


The answer is at the very end of the article,

“It’s just not perfect.”


On May 3, 2008 at 8:42 pm


Everyone is going to have their own opinion, some will like it some won’t. I do agree with the post though, nothing groundbreaking about it.

VOTED for this review at:


On May 4, 2008 at 1:16 am

you’re ing retarded! My ONLY complaint is that it is too much different than the others, even then barely cuz for the most part it’s better for it.


On May 4, 2008 at 12:47 pm

There is ALOT of things differnt… and alot of things improved.. is the Only thing i dont agree with in your statements Ron, Alot of people would say car physics,New aiming system, Ragdoll, very solid story… New grafics engine…..

I think they improved alot with out changing the core of the game.


On May 4, 2008 at 12:48 pm

this game is truly a 10 of 10 or a 100 of 100 =) i play game for living and this is the best game ever! stunning graphic car handling weapon effects ,falls… it got everything! and the multiplayer rocks ur ass off!!!! so god damn fun to play! cheers rockstar! this is the worlds best game! =)


On May 4, 2008 at 5:13 pm

Everyone is probably to young to remember, but a game that really earned its 100/100 score is Half-Life, as it raised the bar of FPS immersion.

I believe that if GTA4 is really as they talk about it, it deserves a 100/100, and i haven’t even played it.

I know everyone says that 100 doesn’t mean it’s perfect, but when ratings of that caliber are rarely given, it’s quite hard not to think of it like that.

PS: Halo 3 really really sucks. If only the original Halo would make a comeback (without the 3-shot cheap kill pistol, of course).


On May 4, 2008 at 11:41 pm

The thing is some people put too much emphasis on the score. If you read the text of a review, you’ll see the main reviewing sites usually do a great job of explaining how the game mechanics work. After reading an ign review i can tell exactly what to expect from a game. Therefore, I don’t just see a high score and expect to be blown away. I read a review and I usually get exactly what I expect. If you read text of the reviews instead of just the score you would have probably known the general idea of the game is still the same as GTA III. There was no reason to be surprised. Also, I don’t think its fair to say “Games like GTA IV…given perfect scores”. The 10 is so extremely rare from the main reviewers (IGN, EGM/1up, Game Informer, GameSpot) that it isn’t really worth arguing over in a general debate about reviews.

Spectre J

On May 5, 2008 at 11:24 am

I agree with many of the points already made. Reviewers have said time and time again in recent years how 10 or an equivalent score is not perfect, but as close as it gets at the time. GTA IV most definitely pushed boundaries with the world it has created within the game, so far above even its previous iteration. It deserves a 10. Why does this argument start up every time a 10 or equivalent is given to a game? At the end of the day it is all about opinion.

Jerke Wadde

On May 5, 2008 at 11:31 am

A game does not deserve less than a 10 because you yourself didn’t think it was the second coming of Zod. I’d also put a lot more currency in your “review” if you described your game playing experience with a bit more detail. On one side, I have a plethora of reviewers giving it a 10, with reviews full of anecdotes from game play describing an incredibly immersive experience, the likes of which gamers have never seen before. Then I have you saying you installed it.

Guess who’s opinion I put more value in.


On May 5, 2008 at 8:25 pm

Anyway, you would probably enjoy a game with a score of 9 the same you would one with 10. They’re just giving GTA4 an extra point for being so tech profficient.


On May 6, 2008 at 2:58 am

How does any one game receive perfect or near-perfect ratings from EVERY mainstream reviewer? I fail to see how Rockstar is “pushing boundaries, expanding a genre, and doing many things to a level so far above and beyond its competitors.”

In fact, GTA IV has succeeded (admirably) at accomplishing the opposite: updating a familiar brand name to next-gen consoles in a way that remains familiar and exciting. The specific genre itself is unique to the series, save past imitations, and the genre would be extinct if not for the brand itself.

I don’t see much innovation here. If innovation is the standard IGN was working with I would like to know why other outstanding games that really did expand genres (e.g. Half Life 2, Civ4, Company of Heroes, BioShock) still failed to receive perfect reviews.


On May 6, 2008 at 5:09 pm

A) 10/10 should not mean perfect, as any game can always be better
B) There are plenty of new things in the game, the cell phone (incl how cheats are handled), dating, the internet, email… And the biggest thing of all:
C) The Euphoria engine. When you kill someone, it’s almost creepy how realistic they act. When you shove someone, they respond in a far too life like manner. How is this not new?

The game is great, and very much deserves a 10/10, 5/5, 100%, or whatever perfect rating anyone can give.

PS3 Daniel

On May 7, 2008 at 7:51 am

Im not sure what i like better by story mode San Andreas or IV, IV has much much better gameplay then sandreas and the graphics are 1,000,000 times better. Im not far enough in IV yet to comment on the story line so i cant really make a judgement, but if i had to make a judgement right now i guess i would have to say GTA IV wins.


On May 7, 2008 at 3:15 pm

people were just happy they actually made a sequel instead of milking 3 with expansion packs for years.


On May 9, 2008 at 2:59 am

sounds like it must be about a 9.5 then


On May 10, 2008 at 8:12 pm

:lol: oh no! You just had to piss off the righteous followers of GTA. Didn’t you know no matter what you say… even if you add in “I like the game”. People will be butthurt about it anyway. You are talking about the mighty LORD of games.


On May 10, 2008 at 11:56 pm

Completely agree with you, Ron. :grin:


On May 14, 2008 at 2:51 pm

I love gta4 but I was a little disappointed by it (mainly because of the hype including comments from the developer saying that its the same kind of leap from gta3 to this than gta2 to 3 only to find out it clearly isn’t) although it is the best in the series. An example of this is that I was led to believe by previews from various websites that you could go into most if not all houses/shop when in fact its still very limited to where you can go in. I don’t think its groundbreaking, it won’t be for me until you can do that (going in every house and shop) I would give it a 9/10


On May 14, 2008 at 5:43 pm

Of course it earned the 10 rating it perfected a game type on which they created from the ground up, its the best of its kind. Saying its much like GTA IV is like saying Warcraft 3 is a better looking version of StarCraft. Which it is, however, they added elements to create differences such as story line and where it takes place.

Here is what the problem is with the world, if Grand Theft Auto 4 would have went a different route and made the game NOT like any other Grand Theft Auto, it would have been an utter failure. Why you might ask… Well this is why, because people can’t accept change, they don’t like it whatsoever, which is why Halo 3 was such a large success, but the same damn game.

Of course it deserves a 10…


On May 17, 2008 at 8:21 am

Definitely not worth a 10 in my eyes. The gameplay is as undeniably repetitive as its predecessors (the inferred myriad missions are thinly redressed variations on a theme). The range of interaction with other characters and the environment is limited in the same way that all so-called immersive gaming environments are. What’s the point of highly detailed graphical environments if they are shrouded in inpenetrable shadow, for example? Maybe its just me, but isn’t Roman just the irritatingly moronic victim we love to see murdered in the movies?


On May 19, 2008 at 6:08 pm

I have to disagree. I personally rarely consider a game to be a 10 personally, but GTA IV is probably one of the top 4 games on the Xbox 360, so it deserves to be up there with Halo 3 and COD 4 ratings. The game was a huge improvement over past GTA games. I’ve been playing the game in-depth since release and am still discovering little things they threw into the game.

It certainly wasn’t a perfect game, but what game is?


On May 20, 2008 at 3:59 am

Alright here’s another random view on this topic. Unlike others I will go into some detail into why I think this game does not deserve a 10/10. Now I’venever been a big fan of the GTA series so if you all wanna discredit me now go ahead. To be honest I think the last GTA I really enjoyed was GTA 2, but I AM liking this one. Alright so lemme just get to this.

the good – Attention to detail is amazing, they did a really good job on all the small things. the sparks, the crashes, the cars, draw distance is also very nice.
the bad – most of the time the game is running at 15-25fps. The characters dont seem next gen. They look alright during actual gameplay but when you see them up close they look “deformed” i guess is the best way to put it. Resolution. at 1080p I’m expecting everything to be crystal clear but it all looks blurred. I think it’s purpossely a depth of field thing but personally I’m not enjoying it. day/evening/night, once again a personal thing but I find the days a bit too blue evenings a bit to orange. If they toned it down just a bit it would be perfect. Maybe it might be an overuse of the bloom effect reflecting off of everything. And textures I find are way to low res. I understand it’s a huge city and there needs to be a lot of textures and painting them on a city a quarter mile away may take up a lot of power but from a next gen system I was just expecting more.
Overall I think the graphics are very nice. But after seing the jump from GTA-SA to Saints Row (yes different creators but still…) I was expecting to see much more. It looks more like a revamped GTA 3 engine. Don’t know the name of it.

I have no problems with. They did a great job. From the sounds of a chainlinked fence to the crashes to the sounds of tires squealing on a wet road compared to a dry one. Excellent job. Music on the otherhand, not my personal taste but it doesnt really matter to me anyway I ususally turn music off or down.

I have a major problem here. I don’t like them at all. Could be personal but I’m not a fan of the auto camera. I like the Saints Row approach which feels more like an fps. I look up, move forward the camera stays up. I run backwards the camera stays facing the same direction instead of turning around. I like to strafe one way and look another and feel I can’t do that in this game. The lock-on system. ??? Does anyone else seem to have problems with this. I point my crosshair on an enemy hold down lock on and now im facing a different direction locked on to another guy. I also think that once an enemy is incapacitated it should automatically lose the lock or switch to another character. I also found that if something is obstructing my line of sight Neko will not fire his weapon I can press fire as many times as I want and hold it down and nothing will happen. I’d prefer it to fire hit what’s in front of me and I’d know to move. Too many times I’ve been killed cause he will not fire and then I’ll get a nice shotgun blast. If I could at least fire then rotate I would have got them first.

alright the bad first this time.
I’m gonna put camera here cause I was unsure of whether to put it here or in controls but whatever. I find that the camera looks like it’s too far from things. A character 2 car lengths away looks small enough to be a block away. Probably personal I know. Outside car camera looks like it’s too low down. 10ft (game distance) higher and it would be great. Roof cam, never been a fan of gimmer bumper (no parts of car on screen) or in-car. Now try this go incar (roof) and drive down a street with no cars on it. Now look up so you can’t see the roadand immediatly look down again. Bam you probably just hit a car that apeared out of nowhere, and probably 3 more along with it. Same thing if youre standing on an empty street look one way then the other and you probably now have a line of cars. Same goes the other way around. I drive past a banshee that I like, get in front of it to stop it, and look behind and it’s gone. The main storyline characters I think are a little over the top.
The good – The city is very well done. Radio, tv, internet, cellphone, all very great features. All the characters in the world act as you think they would. Peoples conversations on the street, friends, girlfriends. It’s a great place to be. Neko I think is a great character unlike some of the other ones.

Well like I said I’m not a big fan of the GTA series but I’m liking this game. But I ca’t really say cause I’m only about 40% into this, so that’s as far as I’m going.

So does this game deserve a 10. I don’t think so. It looks to be a great game definatly an 8.5. But I think there’s just too many faults to say it’s perfect. But that’s just me…


On May 20, 2008 at 9:05 am

This article basically summed up my exact feelings toward GTA IV. And Halo 3 for that matter. This seems to happen too often now. I wish the gaming press would calm down their hype machine for a while and actually let a big release get reviewed properly.

Glad to see I’m not alone.


On May 20, 2008 at 2:41 pm

this should be titled, why im jealous of GTA4


On May 20, 2008 at 6:33 pm

Halo 3 sucked. Simply, it was hyped to the sun and back with a short detour to the moon. It came out and was simply a shiny Halo 2. I don’t see how GTA4 could really be much different from San Andreas. At this point they’re simply putting in a new character, shining it up, fixing some minor things, taking out things (fixed-wing aircraft, I couldn’t care less about realism flying a learjet or a Boeing was awesome)and then selling it for 60 bucks. It’s not worth it, and personally I don’t think it really revolutionized anything, the genre’s been there for a while. It’d be like giving a basic FPS game a 10 because it was big and shiny *cough*Halo3*cough*. The games that deserve tens, the ones that revolutionize a whole genre, can anyone say ‘Fable’, don’t get them (it got a 9.3 from IGN, but for changing a whole genre forever, a 10/10 is deserved. GTA3 deserved a 10, San Andreas, Vice City, and now this thing are simply pushing the game series as far as it can go, they each deserve solid 8′s for a good game, but nothing new, maybe San Andreas deserves a 9 because it allowed fixed-wing craft, swimming, skills, etc. There’s my take on it.


On May 22, 2008 at 9:31 pm

It’s sad when a good game like GTA 4 is so heavily criticized. Is it fun? Check. Re playable? Check. (especially with the multi player added) Great Graphics? Check.
If tomorrow they came out with a fully virtual reality GTA5 that you played like Neo jumps in and out of the Matrix. People would still .No matter how good a game is some is gonna come along and say it sucks because he needs to have something to about. You can’t please everyone so as long as you are having fun with GTA4 tell all the haters to make a better game or shut the hell up and go play your Wii.


On May 24, 2008 at 6:36 pm

Theres alot of things missing from this game as someone said eg pushbike, so if its more realistic then how come pushbikes arent in there, there was more stuff also in GTA : SA, like swat teams armys etc, it would be fun driving a tank down the street


On May 25, 2008 at 6:30 am

Having completed the game i would say its alright. its gta so you get what you expect with extras. it all comes down to personal choice. who gives a e what other people think. stop ing about it and either play the game or take it back.


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On May 31, 2008 at 8:16 am

:lol: Reviews are extremely subjective. One mans 10 is another mans 2. Only uber fanboys give a crap. If you need a review to make a purchase decision that’s sad. Most people have been playing VG’s long enough to know their personal taste.

The cover system is an improvement and the online multiplayer spanks hard in the online sandbox category. The game’s far from perfect, but the technical achievements are very impressive.

I hated the original GTA 3′s. The graphics were hideous and the guns/aiming were lame.

Complaints for IV:
Can be glitchy at times.
The online Free Play mode has spazzed out and kicked all my friends out of the room. Not cool. May be due to the high volume of people playing onlione though.


On July 20, 2008 at 11:32 am

I think yall should of made a gta like San Andreas
GTA IV wasnt all that even though it was real in certain ways but it would of been 10 times better if it was another San Andreas and everyone else think that as well. Lot of my friends quit cuz the multiplayer isnt all that good because of the clothes issue. Why put colombian in NY and have other people wear regular clothes but online we wear winter clothes. Basicly what im trying to say is come out with another GTA SA because IV wasn’t all that hot like I thought it would be.


On July 20, 2008 at 11:33 am

Also the online Multiplayer would of been better with clans/gangs it would of put more interest in multiplayer. But if yall was to make another GTA SA it will be the top selling game for sure everyone loved that game.


On July 20, 2008 at 11:41 am

and another thing what happened to fitness room like san andreas had all im trying to say once again Grand Theft Auto San Andreas = Best