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#31 11 years ago

I beat 7 Borg hard AI with the Romulans. It wasn't a quick victory like Freyr, but it never seemed like I was in trouble. Then again, I am pretty lame and have never played a real opponent or online games, just the AI.

The strategy was simple. Use their strength against them. The borg are all about assimilating things. Well, they cant assimilate plasma torpedos! So I built a ton of em- over 100. If you upgrade shields and weapons to max and build a ton spaced out far enough from needed stations, you can get to a point when they cant hurt you even when they attack with 20-40 ships. You just need to keep recrewing or rebuilding the few stations and ships (like repair ships) that WILL get assimilated. Once you cant be taken, build up a real fleet to attack back.

Having a few fodder ships to distract them so your plasma cannons can pick them off was key. The griffin was great for this, and so was the Kestral. The Ai never brought in Harbringers to take out the torps...a real opponent would know what to do, but the challenge was to beat the AI.

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#32 11 years ago

I beat 7 Borg hard AI with the Romulans. It wasn't a quick victory like Freyr, but it never seemed like I was in trouble. Then again, I am pretty lame and have never played a real opponent or online games, just the AI. The strategy was simple. Use their strength against them. The borg are all about assimilating things. Well, they cant assimilate plasma torpedos! So I built a ton of em- over 100. If you upgrade shields and weapons to max and build a ton spaced out far enough from needed stations, you can get to a point when they cant hurt you even when they attack with 20-40 ships. You just need to keep recrewing or rebuilding the few stations and ships (like repair ships) that WILL get assimilated. Once you cant be taken, build up a real fleet to attack back. Having a few fodder ships to distract them so your plasma cannons can pick them off was key. The griffin was great for this, and so was the Kestral. The Ai never brought in Harbringers to take out the torps...a real opponent would know what to do, but the challenge was to beat the AI. I have some screen shots, but being new to the forum, I cant seem to upload. They are tiny so I can e-mail if needed, or explain how to upload with out it failing, and I will post.




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#33 11 years ago

Actually, im going to have to partly agree Dontai, against the AI he would get owned.... But this is assuming the AI is cheating and has its Build Time and Resource Cost set to nothing on the Advanced Options. Any AI will spam battleships (which is nice as the borg rarely use TC's), and by spam, i mean they will build one ship, and the game will give them 3. Fed AI players however, the AI will use Sovys instead of Galaxys, so they lose a little firepower compaired to other races. Against 7 of these, its instant death. They can have a fleet of 100ish ships per AI before you have a shipyard. :lol: Otherwise, if it was a standard 7 hard AI's, then thats not really a problem, I do find 8472 harder than the borg, but ultimately they're just a challange to be overcome slowly.




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#34 11 years ago

<_< As an experiment... I'm going to see if I can't force a TFC build for the borg. I have a feeling that if doesn't work, it will be due to the fact that the TFC is made through a special weapon, not built. XD If I ever do get the TFC built by AI, I'll send the AI files over to Freyr for fun




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#35 11 years ago

Good luck with getting that working. Off topic: If its possible (which im sure it will be, just unprobable), then it'd be nice to see the same AI applyed to the 8472 battleship link (Cant recall its name, but you know what I'm talking about). Then we can have a really nasty shoot out. :lol: TFC Vs The best of 8472!




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#36 11 years ago
Ultimate_Dragon;3731839<_< As an experiment... I'm going to see if I can't force a TFC build for the borg. I have a feeling that if doesn't work, it will be due to the fact that the TFC is made through a special weapon, not built. XD If I ever do get the TFC built by AI, I'll send the AI files over to Freyr for fun

I thought that was already done. A while back, someone made a mod that had Fusion Cubes building from a portal, I believe. It's just a matter of adding the ships/station to the tech and build lists and telling the AI to build them.




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#37 11 years ago
kel333;3736960I thought that was already done. A while back, someone made a mod that had Fusion Cubes building from a portal, I believe. It's just a matter of adding the ships/station to the tech and build lists and telling the AI to build them.

Yes, but that's building them, through a modded station. I belive UD means getting them to aquire a FC or TFC through the standard ingame fusion weapon.




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#38 11 years ago

Ahh, I missunderstood. Has anyone ever discovered why some specials work (for the AI) and why some don't? Is it hard coded, or just the AI being lazy?




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#39 11 years ago

I think the AI decides only to use specials that in considers worth using, of course it's tactical sence is fairly limited in this area.




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#40 11 years ago
AdmarilRyan;3748720I think the AI decides only to use specials that in considers worth using, of course it's tactical sence is fairly limited in this area.

Ahem.

I think the AI decides only to use specials that in considers worth using, of course it's tactical sence is fairly limited in this area.

I think thats more correct. :)