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StarBlade

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#11 10 years ago
k_merse;4936037(everyone feels to be neceessary to add a new ship class to the Starfleet, but with the less effort possible :P )

That's so very true, and it's a product of people not being conscious of the full scale of what "ship class" means. Part of that is Star Trek's fault for focusing on a single ship of a single class, usually named Enterprise (although I blame Excelsior for really starting the "every new class of starship is a huge leap forward in tech" trend, so that we assume that every new hero ship in the universe has to be of a new class of starship. Not so. In fact, there are usually anywhere from twelve (for big ships) to hundreds (for destroyers and escorts) identically built and serviced by identical numbers of crew. And they do this on purpose-- to standardize tactics, reduce R&D/build/maintenance costs, create what one might call "a brand name", and facilitate widespread production. Numerical superiority is always a critical factor.

I see the Miranda family as being like the T-34 series of tanks worked for the Soviets --you can specialize them every which way but the ease of maintenance, the sheer number of them, and the ability to perform well in most conditions.... that's what wins the day. I also completely agree with merse's line of thinking-- not just because I know it's based on his considerable research on the subject, but also because it follows closely with my own, based on my knowledge and my own research (can we call it that when it's so much fun?). :lol:

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Majestic-MSFC

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#12 10 years ago
k_merse;4936037TNG: Mirandas still in service, Lantrees had minor refit (born of the Majestic "subclass"), Ticonderoga Class (Sisko's Saratoga) enters in service, Soyuzes are reactivated during the Dominion War.

Oh what I noticed the Majestic class was just a standard Miranda with new warp grills and additional impulse engines replacing the rear torp launchers on the roll bar. I too did a lot of research on this when I was first drafting Yesteryears.




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#13 10 years ago

Goldmine of info... Now I just need to rework a couple of things on my techtree guide... oh and just what the heck is a megaphaser?




Tain_Enabran

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#14 10 years ago

Do you know the Vol Sulaki class and the Truman class, both are other Miranda variants. Star Trek LCARS Blueprint Database - Star Trek Blueprints: Miranda Class Starship U.S.S. Reliant NCC-1864




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#15 10 years ago

eew nice!




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#16 10 years ago

As far as I am concerned, all the ships that are similar to the Miranda Class, are in fact, simple variants. Much alike the Nebula (which can change her pod), I'm not willing to accept that countless vessels have been launched, with only minor differences. To that end, unless I hear / see differently (from official sources), the Lantree, Saratoga, Reliant etc are all of the Miranda Class.




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#17 10 years ago

I always call the Reliant version the standard Miranda, the Lantree (no rollbar) as the Lantree class, Soyuz as the Soyuz class, Saratoga (Sisko's version) as the Saratoga class and so on.

Aerilon;4938955To that end, unless I hear / see differently (from official sources), the Lantree, Saratoga, Reliant etc are all of the Miranda Class.

That's a fair enough call for sure, there has to been to my knowledge no canon reference to this and thus all open to speculation by us the fans. ;)




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#18 10 years ago

Miranda is the main class. [COLOR=red][COLOR=blue]Anton, Kennedy, Vindicator, Benning, Surya, Coventry, Dollond, Avenger, Cyane, Endurance, Reliant, Commanche, Nimitz, Ticonderoga, Soyuz, Truman, Vol Sulaki, Apache, New York, Callisto, Lagrange, Brownwood, Hensley, Knox, Daran, Darter, Ianar, Decisive, Bragg, Pharris, Lancer, Murphy, Kresta, Peregrine, Hippocrates[COLOR=red]+[/COLOR].[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black]All these ships are subclasses.[/COLOR]




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#19 10 years ago

Whoa. I was looking up some of those and actually found even more variants. I think we have a very simple answer to the "why the heck is the miranda still around in the Dominion War" and it's simply because it looks like every 5th ship was some form of Miranda LOL when you've built that many vessels and their spare parts... you could probably keep those suckers running for another hundred years beyond DS9.




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#20 10 years ago

The only three ships classes I've never seen are the Darter, the Decisive and the Kresta. There are Miranda variants too. See Mastercom Data Center.




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