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Johncelot

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#31 16 years ago

yeah i think it is a venture class, but it dusnt specify the name. it defo is the captains yacht that worf and picard are in, dusnt say it but it cums outts the enterprise hull!




The Joelteon7

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#32 16 years ago

That being said, there really wasn't too much point for the Argo then was there?




Atlantis

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#33 16 years ago

"it defo is the captains yacht that worf and picard are in, dusnt say it but it cums outts the enterprise hull!"

No, it wasn't. The Sov Yacht was later in the flim, when Picard, Data, Troi, etc go down the the Ba'ku surface to kick some Son'a rear.

[Image #1 - shot from the flim of Scout with Type11] [Image #2 - shot of Type11 showing Picard and Worf inside] [Image #3 - Cousteau (Sov Yacht) for comparison]

PS: The Argo was added because it's cool. 8)




The Joelteon7

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#34 16 years ago

I'm not saying it wasn't cool, I'm just saying from the point of view of what the Enterprise had, the Argo was pointless...but I'm all for desert racing!

And when it comes to Canon ships, although there are those made entirely up, and those seen in films/series etc, they will still need to get the ideas from somewhere, so in theory if you create a ship its cannon, because, let's face it, we don't even have any proof of what these ships look like...we only managed to reach the moon almost half a century ago...its different if you're playing a game like Battlefield with tanks and planes, cause that all happened, but you can't really say henceforth that something for star trek is "canon"...

Just my view though...




Atlantis

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#35 16 years ago

Yeah, as far as i'm concerned, any ship design which ....

a) is shown in credible technical manuals b) is made under Star Trek label (ie. FASA, and maybe even computer games) c) is made up, but follows the design and starship styles of it's race at that era (for example, you couldn't say that a retextured Minbari War Cruiser would be a credible Federation starship :-p)

.... can be considered just as canon as those ships seen on the shows, because after all, it's your perception that matters; outside of the TV show, it is up to yourself (but it's up to us modders to make fair compromises).




Flash525

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#36 16 years ago

Persoanlly - ships are only "canon" to me if they exist within the star trek shows! - i wish they had thought about what they were doing before starting the series...

I mean lets see, the Klingons have what, 7, 8 ships, Romulans have 5... and the poor cardassians - they only have two (then you look at the federation) - they got millions and most of them are just parts of other ships simply stuck togeather - it looks wrong!

They should have thought about what they were doing before making all these ships - if they simply made a certian number then there wouldn't be all this fuss. This also bring to mind why the other races ahve so little ships when the federation have so many.




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#37 16 years ago

Well surely that's just because all sci-fi is based around the humans, so the other races aren't explored in the same depth.

Except in Babylon 5. :p




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#38 16 years ago

babylon 5 rocked (gooooooo Shadows!), I mean...

Although it is true that humans are only explored, I believe that working on race "functions" we can form a basis for ships, for example:

Federation: Large, if so graceful ships

Klingon: Anything is good if its got a weapon mount, usually have the more sleeker designs that allow for more combat orientated objectives.

Romualns: Again, sleek designs with a "bird-like" feel to it...obviously. These are huge ships with again stunning designs intend to scare the enemy (you need only look at the Scimitar and know you are in trouble)

Cardassians: Similar to the Klingons but tend to have tails. So in that sense similar to the romulans, but these ships do have the more arrow-like design, that sticking to one long line with variants at the front and sides.

Borg: Anything goes! These are extremely large ships with no intention for design specifications, built for the role they will play. Though in another sense, they tend to take on the form of geometric shapes.

Sp8472: "weapon struts" pertrude from the hull, then any other various bumps can be done along the way...I s'pose

The Dominion: They tend to take on what I like to think of back-to-front designs. What you'd usually expect to see, just, in reverse. They tend to be huge ships with masses of firepower...again, pretty much anything goes.

Ok, hope that helps, and if you ignore that...then...well, meh :P