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scotchsoldier

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#11 14 years ago

I would never have expected the flight physics to be good, OFP and ArmA are more a Infantry sim than a flight or tank sim. Whoever said they took 5 years to do this is wrong, they started making their "Game 2" but that was delayed because the Spanel brothers ideas are time consuming to implement, thus they started making ArmA mid 2004 I think, to fill the gap.




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#12 14 years ago

My question. How animations are ? I mean reloading weapons, is it like OFP, or more like any FPS ? And how are the buildings ? In original OFP, there was clipping problems, like falling through the floors.




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#13 14 years ago

Yes, all clipping problems and geting stuck in walls are sorted. Weapons re-arm like most FPS games as well.

I been playing it for 2 weeks roughly now, And myy mind set as changed rapidly. It is amazing!!! Cant get enough of it. It just takes time till you see all the little tweaks and how it all adds up to a better gaming experience.

And im the one who said its taken 5 years. Ok, maybe they did take a break but still, they mentioned the game in 2003 for release date. Its now basically 2007!!! And also, what a idiot to say its a infantry sim haha!!! Obviously you not played ArmA!!! and by the sounds of it you didnt play OFP! EVERYTHING! is more relistic. There no more turning a plane around quickly when your doing 600MPH+, it just dont happen. And the helicopter is so realistic its untrue. They got the flight physics so close to the real thing, IT'S HARD!!! Not bad physics!!! Flying a helicopter in real life is one of the hardest things learn, and so this is true in the game. Even in OFP they were more realistic than any other game at the time. Except flight Sim which is exciting!!!! NOT!

Unless you've actually played ArmA, you wont relise how realistic it is!!!

Infantry sim haha, Jesus christ!!! It's a god damn WAR SIM!!! Working with Army's all over the world, they know what there doing!!!




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#14 14 years ago

What are you talking about> You want a realistic flight model play some flight simulator, you want realistic tank combat play a tank simulator. ArmA and OFP's engine is not dedicated to tank or flight sims, but they are a more realistic than most other FPS's out there like BF2. All Im saying is that OFP was aimed more at infantry combat and by the sounds of things ArmA is too. On the officail forums there has been hundreds of complaints about ArmA's flight and tank physics but your comments have lightened up my thoughts about the game.

How about not calling me an idiot.




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#15 14 years ago

Haha, yes sorry about that. bad day :/

I know what your saying about OFP's physics, but people moaning about the physics in ArmA are the people who a BF2 shooters and that kind of thing. It's because they've made it so realistic, i.e, flight simulator like, that they are complaining. End of the day, fair play to bohemia for doing this. THeres nothing worse than a plane/heli whorer in games :)

And i thought OFP simulated tanks pretty well. AI wasnt to clever with them as it keeps locking on target after target without shooting but thats resolved in ArmA with better AI. And commandering a tank is alot harder. Morer relistic again. They use the space bar to command the gunner while you contol an automated machine gun for defence (M1A1). Not T80 though, thats a mistake!!! T72 is way too weak




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#16 14 years ago

It is interesting to hear BF2 players complain about physics when Operation Flashpoint and ARMA actually have a better system. As far as I can remember, BF2 doesn't take into account all the little things such as bullet drop, or how long it takes for sound to travel.

As for the tank/flight portions, I can't think of a game that incorporates everything so well. Besides some more basic control issues, you really can't get much better. In flight simulators they don't render the ground and infanty war, all the detail is in the skies. Not so in these games.




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#17 14 years ago

Ensign Riles;3406771It is interesting to hear BF2 players complain about physics when Operation Flashpoint and ARMA actually have a better system. As far as I can remember, BF2 doesn't take into account all the little things such as bullet drop, or how long it takes for sound to travel.

As for the tank/flight portions, I can't think of a game that incorporates everything so well. Besides some more basic control issues, you really can't get much better. In flight simulators they don't render the ground and infanty war, all the detail is in the skies. Not so in these games.

Yes, everything as been simulated. Bohemia have done an excellent job as the work they've done with VBS1 with military's all around the world is showing. As i said, they know there shit. I hope the OFP2 that codemasters are doing doesnt see the light of day. There's no way they got any chance of doing what bohemia have done with ArmA. It will be an arcader like game for sure.




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#18 14 years ago

M3sssh, stop going around and spreading false information. And ensign, you didn't even know about OFP before 2004, so whats your point?

In ARMA nothing's realistic as you guys say.

The flight model is definately not realistic, and its definately not arcadish, its just plain stupid.

Everything else is as close to realism as ofp and nothing more.

So stop talking out of your ass.

As for the tank/flight portions, I can't think of a game that incorporates everything so well

Well thats screwed up big time in ARMA

How does this sound for a simulation? "Leveling a whole forrest with your tank and still gaining momentum while leveling every tree in your way." Imagine that at 30 kph

And did you even play the game or just decided to talk? And stop talking in the name of BIS, your in no way related to them or know what they will, won't do. People like you is the reason why there is so much false shit around.




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#19 14 years ago

Decebalus;3407931M3sssh, stop going around and spreading false information. And ensign, you didn't even know about OFP before 2004, so whats your point?

In ARMA nothing's realistic as you guys say.

The flight model is definately not realistic, and its definately not arcadish, its just plain stupid.

Everything else is as close to realism as ofp and nothing more.

So stop talking out of your ass.

Well thats screwed up big time in ARMA

How does this sound for a simulation? "Leveling a whole forrest with your tank and still gaining momentum while leveling every tree in your way." Imagine that at 30 kph

And did you even play the game or just decided to talk? And stop talking in the name of BIS, your in no way related to them or know what they will, won't do. People like you is the reason why there is so much false shit around.

Well for starters, I was GIVEN OFP in 2001 when a friend from college brought it and his system wouldnt run it so theres the answert to your first statement!!!

You state: 'In ARMA nothing's realistic as you guys say'

And the answer i give to that is already done for me by someone off the ArmA board on gamefaq's to a comment simalar to yours, 'It's not realistic at all'!!! Here it is:

'Really? That must be why so many armed forces around the world use a version of this game (VBS1/VBS2) for simulated training, including USMC, ADFA, Australian Defense Force, DSTO, US National Guard, US Secret Service, IDF. And I've played VBS1, Their is almost no discernible difference between it and OpFlash with a few modes.'

And i couldnt agree more!!! Theres no other game that try's to take on as much as ArmA/OFP does. Not even close. Obviously you got a grudge against the game. Maybe your a Ego shooter so go play with BF2, Maybe you just got a vendetta against this game or more than likly you cant play the game. I dont really care. All i put on here is my opinions as im playing the game myself. Which you should do. Being insulting to me and all doesnt achieve anyone anything sorry to say.

If you dont like it, dont play it, Go anoy other's instead cause i dont think anyone here wants to hear it!!! And i dont want be acused of false acusations, WHO THE FOOK ARE YOU?????

I dont think the flight model is quite right though people. After a fair bit of time it still 'jerky' and over responsive. IMO anyways

EDIT: And saying i go spreading what i think around everywhere, What the whole of gamefaq's and here. Yes man, everywhere!!! And my posts have consisted of constructive information for people, i.e, system requirements and what you get for your bang. Image quality on various settings etc etc. You need get out more if your going get wound up so easily cause people dont think the same as you. Voiding that, Hang yourself, Save us the oxygen!!!!




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#20 14 years ago

VBS is nothing like ARMA kid.

And no armed forces don't use it like you think IMO. If VBS so so successul, it wouldn't have been sold to the public.

Anyway do you know anything about physics? So I won't bother examplaining to you how helicopters fly in real life.

And since you claim the flying is realistic mind if you explain it?

And do you enjoy flying in armed assault?

P.S. Flying does not mean just staying above the air. You know dogfighting? Shooting ground targets?

Oh, and since your spreading what you "think" your opinion sure don't match others, some who played ofp since 2001. Source: Bis forum. I belive they have more credibility, no offence.