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Shooter Freak

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#41 14 years ago

Not really a star wars fan, so no, i never heard of him, although i am proud to say that i do know who han solo is! And theres robocop vs terminator?




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#42 14 years ago

Anyone know who long preds live? Then we could see if the SW time line and pred time line can merge.




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#43 14 years ago

I dont know, alot? 300 maybe, but I might have just imagined that. :lookaround:




El Hombre del Fuego

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#44 14 years ago

Yeah, in Predator: Conrete Jungle (a badass-lookin new Predator game) theres a gap of a hundred years in the storyline, and your the same pred, able to do the same stuff, so probably in the 300 to 500 area.

The Fetts and the Preds are about even. It depends where they encounter each other. If the area has any verticle restrictions (a city, perhaps, or a jungle) than the Pred has the advantage. If on a plain or in a desert, the Fett has one.




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#45 14 years ago

Maploogy, nice icon




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#46 14 years ago

Excuse my ignorance, but I've never seen Bobba OR Jango do anything that would even remotely challenge a Predator... short of flying, they don't really have anything going for them so far as I can see :confused:. Have you people arguing for Fett even seen all the relevant movies?




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#47 14 years ago

I cant stand this thread?! its so unbelivebly stupid!!! Man you got people here arguing about two totaly different things! Star Wars should only be compared to things about Star Wars its self and AvP to its self. You cant compare to totaly different things! Its like comparing Star Trek to Battle Star Galactica... It dosent work - FINALLY!!! I have something to say that Boba + Jango fett are sissies 1. Boba and Jango Are exactly the same (Boboa = Clone of Jango) And both could wipe the floor with a pred 2. Boba Fett didnt die in the Sarlacc pit, he Escaped with a thermal detanator (if you guys were any type of SW fan you would know that!!!) 3. A Jedi Master could kick a preds ass so bad it wouldnt even know what hit them (Its called the force and a Light Saber!!!) DISK!!!, chopped in half.....PLASMA deflected back at them.....CLOAK dont matter cause they are jedi.......COMBI copped in half also = preds are dead. 4. Most of all Preds wouldnt stand a chance because cloak would do diddly squat!!! Jango and Boba Have targeting scanners on there helments which would pick a pred off instantly. 5. Boba + Jango have Jet packs so it would be nearly impossible to hit them with a disc and Spears would bounce off there mandalorian armor! 6. Jedi masters can deflect everything a pred could use on them. (I know Alot about preds and aliens and I have to say Star Wars would kick the preds ass!!!) Most importantly You shouldnt compare thses things and preds dont think - They Just Kill Hands Down Predators = Dead to Anything Star Wars!!!

I know I just contridicted myself by saying you shoulnt compare these things... (but I had to get this of my chest i'm a fan of both Genres)




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#48 14 years ago

If us guys were any types of fans, we'd know that the 'Extended Universe' is not canon and cannot be taken as such. As would you. And as most of what you just said about the Fetts was not in the movies (still alive, targetting sensors, etc), it is considered void until a movie demonstrates otherwise. A Jedi Master is another matter though. As the 'Force' doesn't exist in our universe (an example of how pointless it is to try and compare the two, as you yourself said was stupid before comparing the two anyway), it is not logical to assume that a Jedi Master would be able to sense a Predator -- there would be nothing to sense. This may have been different had Episode 1 not tried to explain the Force, but it did, and so we can now discount the Force from the equation. Also, we've never seen a lightsaber deflect anything as large as a hard-plasma blast. It's possible it could be deflected, it's possible it could not. You can't make an assumption like that based on your own personal bias. A combistick would be useless against a lightsaber, but that's assuming the lightsaber was able to hit the combistick. It would still be perfectly effective against the person holding the lightsaber. Without their ability to sense him, a Predator would still have the element of surprise. They are experienced hunters, they know exactly how to evade their prey until the kill. They have a proven track record against humans, and without the Force helping them find little Preddy, this still stands. Back stabbings are still an option. And let's not forget that a Predator is faster and stronger than a human. Even if the Jedi saw him coming, the Predator would still stand a chance, 'Force' or no. And you seem to be forgetting the spear gun. One shot in the back = dead Jedi. It would be a challenge only the most skilled of Predators could undertake, for sure, but it wouldn't be as futile as you think. A Sith or Dark Jedi might have much more luck than a Jedi, actually. Most of a Jedi's Force abilities would be rendered moot by the lack of Force in our universe, but I don't see any reason why the damaging Force powers such as lightning and choking wouldn't work. Bobba and Jango? As I said, there's nothing in the movies to suggest either of them, or even both combined, would be a match for what we've seen of the Predator. As the Extended Universe is made up by fanboys, usually giving their favourite character a super power (such as the ability to not die), it is not canon and cannot be used. I'm a Trekkie at heart, so I'm not in favour of either side particularly. A phaser would vaporise the lot of them ;). Their only advantage is their ability to fly, which a plasmacaster would render moot anyway. Oh, unless of course, their armour is also immune to weapons :rolleyes:. There is no point arguing this, you're right, for most people in this thread are totally biased one way or the other. The only thing futile is trying to win this argument.




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#49 14 years ago

Ok so to back up your argument you say that a predator would be able to kill a jedi master because he "In your universe" cant use the force right... and a jedi would sense the spear flying at him (because jedi have incrediable fast reflexes and have force speed) and your puny little combi stickwould be cut in half by the lighsaber. Look I think we should move of this forum cause we are both right in 1 sense its not logical to compare 2 totaly different things. What im thinking is we should move of this topic and leave Star wars in its own universe and the Predators in thiers. That I think we can all agree on!




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#50 14 years ago

Yes the lightsaber is all-powerful and would easily cut through the combistick (I'm actually being generous on that one too, as you don't KNOW what a combistick is made out of. There are materials in the Star Wars universe such as cortosis which lightsabers cannot damage. It's impossible to know what the Predators build their weapons out of, so I'm being generous in accepting your assumption). But the combistick could still kill the Jedi if rammed through his spinal column. Even if cut in half.

I didn't say Jedis can't use the Force in our universe. I said that the Force doesn't exist in our universe. Our universe being the one the Predator operates in (I assume the Force doesn't exist in the Predator movies as they happen on Earth, in this time period). A Jedi could throw everything they have at the Predator, but they could not use the Force to sense him. There is no Force in a Predator for the Jedi to sense. So reflexes etc would all be the same for the Jedi, however, they would not have any greater ability to 'sense' a Predator than you or I would. Of course, this is the problem with comparing the two universes. In Star Wars, the Force is supposedly the fabric of life, yet it doesn't even exist in the Predator's universe. I'm not even sure how the two could co-exist at all. So yes, we should move off this topic :D. Notice I made no counter-arguments, just cleared up your misunderstanding over what I meant in my previous post. I'll say no more.