Battlefield 2 1.4 is hosed. -1 reply

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colonel_flagg

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#1 12 years ago

FYI: This is coming from someone that 1) is a information systems manager, 2) has done all of the tweeks known for BF2, 3) is running a relatively fast (AMD 64 3500, 2gigs, x800) computer and 4) was running a perfectly stable 1.3 Battlefield 2 client prior to the 1.4 patch.

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DICE == Losers.

That's right. We've all known it for a very long time, but I've never made a "front page" article proclaiming it (see: www.internetwarzone.org).

Battlefield 2, at least up to 1.4, is a flying piece of shit. We had all the hopes that the 1.4 patch would fix a lot of things. Sure, they fixed a few things, but I believe they've broken more than they've fixed. It's worse than it was. Sure, 1.3 servers crashed, but my client didn't crash nearly as much, the lag was tolerable, the game menu worked better. Now, with 1.4, the lag is unbelievable, I crash constantly, the game menu is once again hosed. It lost the ability to read my mouse setup correctly (G5 Laser Mouse). I thought I had screwed something up on my computer. Then, Sirnaut advised me that I wasn't the only person experiencing the lag issues. He as well as many other (see BF2 related forums) are experiencing the same.

EA/DICE, you cannot hide this. This piece of shit game is just over a year old. Your programmers are incompetent, yet, you lay-off (see: FIRED!) the Trauma Studio folks that didn't want to move to Europe when you were finished screwing them in the ass.

I am at my wits end. EA/DICE have virtually killed off Battlefield 1942, a game with a few bugs, but it was stable and the community as a whole, loved it. Since then, I've put forth my efforts to migrate to the newest "thing" and this "thing", well, it F'in sucks.

I dunno what to do here. I am just about ready to throw in the towel. There's no other games I like as much as I do the Battlefield series, although, COD2 comes in a close second. I never played online games until I found Battlefield 1942. I am just about to quit playing online games once again. Yea, I've tried Quake 4, COD2, Half Life 2, CSS, etc. But they're not the kind of game I want to play... again, COD2 comes close and it's still an option.

I entered this world at the 1.5 patch level of Battlefield 1942. Folks told me that "...it was buggy as hell in the beginning." With the introduction of Battlefield 2142 within a year of Battlefield 2's release, what insurance do I have that Battlefield 2 will ever be patched fully? None.

It's all a money making game to them. They don't care about communities like IWZ. They don't care about the modders, that's evident from many mod communities' complaints to that very fact.

People want to take the side of the game and game developers. They state this and that, but the bottom line is, there's an issue and PROFESSIONALS see it. The average gamer, who ventures to server to server, experiencing lag on this one, but not on this one, doesn't consider everthing involved. ALL ranked/punkbuster linux servers have the same code. ALL ranked/punkbuster Microsoft server have the same code. If you visit 3 Microsoft servers and 1 of 3 have an issue, sure, it could be a routing issue, but if 10 of 30 have an issue and they're all on different backbone providers/routes? Please, don't try to point the finger elsewhere.

All of my favorite servers I had in my favorites list prior to 1.4 are giving me fits. Whether 32 or 64 player servers, whether linux or microsoft. With or without tweeking my computer, with or without custom drivers, batch files, registry tweeks... it doesn't matter.

I am sick of it. Honestly, if I could get my money back for Battlefield 2, I would.

Though 1.3 had it's issues, it was a godsend compared to 1.2x. I was pretty well happy with 1.3 come to think of it. No, I don't/didn't like Battlefield 2 as much as I did Battlefield 1942 and I never will. The hope was to get use to BF2 and wait it out until Forgotten Hope 2 came out. Looks like the BF2 engine is so hosed, it could ultimately screw up FH2 as well.

I don't see an answer to this, unless of course, EA/DICE decide to fix this piece of shit.

I can't go back to BF1942, there's hardly anyone playing it now. I can suffer and play on what's left of the Forgotten Hope servers until FH2 comes out. What I am thinking that I am not gonna do is, play Battlefield any longer. If I cannot find something in the BF1942 realm to do, then I guess that's it. I am done.

Battlefield 2142 is a fucking joke. It's as bad as Battlefield Vietnam was. Sure, I HOPED like hell BF Vietnam woulda been something special. Turned out to be crap as well.

EA/DICE haven't put forth anything worth mentioning in the Battlefield world since Battlefield 1942 and that's a FACT whether you or anyone else choose to believe it.

In closing, to make my point very succinct, I am done with Battlefield 2 until someone tells me that EA/DICE have fixed it or FH2 comes out.

I'll either not be playing or I'll be playing Battlefield 1942 or Forgotten Hope.

No, I am not changing or adding any BF1942 servers. For all I care, all of the IWZ servers can be closed down. I'll visit whatever Battlefield 1942/FH server that suits my fancy at the time and play there.

Hard to believe a company like DICE could possibly spell the end to our community. But, I suspect there's been many others out there that's been done the same way.

Colonel Flagg IWZ - Internet Warzone www.internetwarzone.org




Oblivious

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#2 12 years ago

Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with it.

It's of no consolation to you I'm sure, but I've yet to experience issue one with the 1.4 patch. Granted, I've only played it a half dozen times, but so far so good.

The controls setup menu (and frankly the menu in general, imo) has been fubared since day one, so that doesn't surprise me that it's causing you some problems, albeit new ones. I use ASE to server browse, so luckily I rarely have to use the BF2 menu for anything.

Probably a dumb suggestion, but have you tried a clean reinstallation and the full 1.4 patch? I've never liked incremental patches as they occasionally don't work as advertised.




xWildsidex

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#3 12 years ago

nothing really has changed from mine, it still lags considering that my computer isnt fast enought to handle this game. Mine was like over 300mb if that's the size of the incremental v1.4 n i havent experienced crashes anymore thank goddness. as far as BF 2142, there is a high chance that one will be a lot better, if u dont want to get it, fine, i will, even though it wont support the PhysX Accelerator like i hoped is the only reason that is holding me back from getting it. one solution, plan on getting better parts. As for me, ill be waiting for the R600 GPU from ATI rumored to come out Q4 2006, which will support DX10 n that will surely help this game not lag as much. Waiting for quad-core from AMD to come out, Q2 2007 is when it comes out, get that too. last solution to ur problem, reinstall it, n see if that did anything good for u, or lower graphics settings. I did n it helped increase my FPS like 5 FPS more or something. my specs: AMD Athlon 64 +3000 sok 939 1GB DDR 400 Nvidia 6600 LE KN1 nforce4 motherboard




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#4 12 years ago

I gave up on BF2 and one of my friends has it on 'extended loan'. I don't particularaly miss it - crappy SP and lag really don't go down well in my books. Just play CoD2, it's an awesome game, or go back to Bf1942. I did both.




colonel_flagg

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#5 12 years ago

It's not just a few of us, it's double the number of players that experience no trouble....

here's an example of a poll taken:

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94841

It's bad enough to issue the hotfix they're wanting... they did it for BF1942, from 1.619 to 1.61b, about 10megs worth in a matter of a few days.

I can't believe that we're allowing this to happen. All that needs to be done is, all of the current BF players that are active in forums, including the ones that are having no issues, support the community by banding together and boycotting EA/DICE until they realize they cannot release crapware.

It won't stop the folks that have no idea about the history from buying an EA/DICE game, but it'll damn sure put a dent into the EA/DICE pocketbooks.

I'll guarantee you that I'll not be buying another EA/DICE game until they've proven to me that they're committed to the community.

/CF




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#6 12 years ago

i agree with you on most parts, i also have been pissed at the gameplay of bf2 for quite ahwile. thats why my clan stopped playing it and i havent gotten the 1.4 patch yet.

I would suggest a game that i find never has problems... http://www.wwiionline.com/scripts/wwiionline/index.jsp

ive been living on that game for ahwile because i just cant stand bf2... im considering getting 42 out of the closet aswell, it was such a good game, i would even consider working on a new 42 mod just to keep the game rolling long enough to live through bf2 bf2142... I liked bfv just because it was different and better in rare cases. then bf2 was great but that wasnt going to last... and nothing improoved in the patches.

anyway, your right about it, i completely agree that EA/DICE has a terrible PR system, they are now the big snobs of gaming, you sell that many copies and who gives a****about the outcome of the patches

i would recommend americas army aswell as an alternative, it gets boring quick but it will never fail you.

also i kinda started devfile on that reason, i figured a ton of people would be sick of not having mods, so if i made a website that helps mods get out there and release it might help.

[editedby=Merrick] Watch the language please[/editedby]




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#7 12 years ago

WOW after about 7 hours on 1.4 i find it running smoother i have no problems with i am well happy for once with the patch. and what is wronge with BFV i liked hell i still play it from time to time




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#8 12 years ago

Yeah i haven't seen a problem either. So it is your opinion. In your own words " it is double the amount of people not having a problem"? well ... There are two people here not having a problem, so you are posting about 4 people having issues?

I know that isn't the case. But the fact is, this isn't strange. This happens on many games. Some people have issues and some do not. I don't care if he builds systems for a living. There are still things he doesn't know about pcs. If it were easy, everyone would use them to game on and not do console. He could have a hardware issue. Everyone could have a small hardware issue and not know it. It is called capacitors. Get over it. If you do not like the game, don't come here with the single purpose of bashing it. If you would like help, that would be another story.




xWildsidex

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#9 12 years ago

omg i just had my first game crash since the patch came out, damn it.




colonel_flagg

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#10 12 years ago

MerrickDSYeah i haven't seen a problem either. So it is your opinion. In your own words " it is double the amount of people not having a problem"? well ... There are two people here not having a problem, so you are posting about 4 people having issues?

I know that isn't the case. But the fact is, this isn't strange. This happens on many games. Some people have issues and some do not. I don't care if he builds systems for a living. There are still things he doesn't know about pcs. If it were easy, everyone would use them to game on and not do console. He could have a hardware issue. Everyone could have a small hardware issue and not know it. It is called capacitors. Get over it. If you do not like the game, don't come here with the single purpose of bashing it. If you would like help, that would be another story.

The ignorant need not apply..

You didn't READ my post. I can install, up to 1.3, Battlefield 2 on my system and play on 1.3 servers without issues.

Only a complete moron would think that my computer is hosed if I apply 1.4 and then the game goes to hell.

They've screwed up 1.4 for most of us. Just because YOU are playing fine, means absolutely nothing to the rest of us. The majority of us are hosed. Some don't even know it. Some will find out in a day or two. It's not something that's hosed across the board, it will eventually hit 2/3's of the multi-player community.

/CF




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