Battlefield 2 1.4 is hosed. -1 reply

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konypt

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#11 13 years ago

I believe the problem with BF2 1.4 is NOT the 1.4 patch itself... it is the NEW version of PunkBuster that it requires. Many of the problems ppl are now having with 1.4 originated with the PB update that occured earlier in the week before the official 1.4 patch release. I noticed problems then and posted HERE about it. Don't be SOOO quick to jump to scream 'its all Dice's fault'. PB is potentially the bit of code that AFAIK causes the failures (as it has been documented in the past as doing so... even by PB themselves!) that occur just as you're getting into a game when the PB code tries to 'auto update' in game! IMHO PB updates should be FORCED to take place only during the progress bar stage and the software should say 'PUNKBUSTER attempting to update'. That way more ppl would see that its their fault as the crash would occur then and not later leading most ppl to say 'see my BF2 has failed' (HINT. DICE, if are you listening, that MIGHT deflect a lot of criticism from you and increase your standing in the software development community accordingly!) Just as with 1.3, the blame may turn out to lie more with PB's chimps rather Dice's monkeys! :) konypt ------------------------------------------------------------ 3744307.png CPU AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.02GHz Gigabyte K8 Triton GN-K8N-SLI NForce4 SLI GPU Nvidia Geforce 7800GT 256MB PCIe x1(ONE) RAM 2048MB DDR400 Audigy2 Soundcard WinXP SPwhatever-is-newest BF2 Patch Type FULL

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#12 13 years ago
colonel_flaggThey've screwed up 1.4 for most of us. Just because YOU are playing fine, means absolutely nothing to the rest of us. The majority of us are hosed. Some don't even know it. Some will find out in a day or two. It's not something that's hosed across the board, it will eventually hit 2/3's of the multi-player community.

Wouldn't it be funny if the 2/3 that had no problem with 1.3 might now be the ones being 'hosed' by 1.4... but at least the ppl who had problems with 1.3 can play again! What larks! :) Ho ho ho To be honest I had problems with 1.3 and it really got on my ****** when the ppl who saw no problem kept 'boasting' WELL ITS OK ON MY SYSTEM! who's lol'ing now! konypt ------------------------------------------------------------ 3744307.png CPU AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.02GHz Gigabyte K8 Triton GN-K8N-SLI NForce4 SLI GPU Nvidia Geforce 7800GT 256MB PCIe x1(ONE) RAM 2048MB DDR400 Audigy2 Soundcard WinXP SPwhatever-is-newest BF2 Patch Type FULL

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#13 13 years ago

if all of you people hate BF2 so much, why are you still here complaining about it while many other games are still waiting to be slammed on by you? (to the people that never stop complaining) i have absolutely no problem with 1.4 and im running way lower quality pc than most of you... i mean seriously, this patch problem is caused by you complainers in the first place, by whining on the first version of BF2 which had only a few minor bugs, but nooo, whiners wanted more,more,more out of it, just because the most of them didnt have a clue of how the game works and wanted the game to change for them.




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#14 13 years ago

colonel_flaggThe ignorant need not apply..

You didn't READ my post. I can install, up to 1.3, Battlefield 2 on my system and play on 1.3 servers without issues.

Only a complete moron would think that my computer is hosed if I apply 1.4 and then the game goes to hell.

They've screwed up 1.4 for most of us. Just because YOU are playing fine, means absolutely nothing to the rest of us. The majority of us are hosed. Some don't even know it. Some will find out in a day or two. It's not something that's hosed across the board, it will eventually hit 2/3's of the multi-player community.

/CF[/quote]

Lol .... Well let us begin shall we ?

Just because you could play up to and including 1.3 on your system, doesn't mean 1.4 is going to work as well for YOUR system. I am sorry but if this were easy everyone would do it. I read your post word for word and i am standing by mine. You could be a complete moron because you maybe one of a few having issues, what can i tell you ? How do i know you didn't botch the install ? how do i know you didn't have something happen during the download, or that maybe the source of your download , didn't have something happen ? Feeling stupid yet ? No of course you aren't. But give me one second.

Funny that you come here and speak for " US". Where do you get off ? The rest of "US" are firing you as our spokesman. YOU'RE FIRED. Before you clean out your desk, do "US" a favor and leave your data at the door so we can look over where you got your info. Cause if the only people that are having a problem are the people YOU know, well maybe the few you know are the only ones having issues.

I know I am not having any issues. But i do not presume to speak for the rest of " us ". I will say this though [quote=Merrick] If you do not like the game, don't come here with the single purpose of bashing it. If you would like help, that would be another story

Oh and Madcat is one hundred percent correct. If you don't like the way it is.... DON'T PLAY IT. Ignorant people need not come back here :D

[editedby=Merrick] KONYPT: Good post in #11. Punkbuster has been known to cause issues with not only crashes but lag in the past ..... It is a third party software that NOBODY has considered. Right on target man ... Good thinking. [/editedby]




colonel_flagg

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#15 13 years ago

Don't worry. I won't be playing it and the plan is, to take as many players with me as I can.

More and more people are reporting to have trouble and no, it's not a punkbuster update causing the issue. It *could* be the way punkbuster is running with the new patch, but it's not a PB update issue as I have tweeked my punkbuster update time to max (500) and I have downloaded and run (before each time I start up BF2) the PB Update Utility for Windows.

It's always easier to point the finger elsewhere. Point it at punkbuster, it's a third-party piece of software, DICE/EA couldn't possibly put something out this bad. Point the finger at the individual computer, the one that works fine and dandy with 1.3, but doesn't work with 1.4. The computer that works well with ALL OTHER GAMES, but doesn't work with Battlefield 2 1.4.

It's as if people in these forums are EA/DICE sock puppets, making sure to try and preserve the "good name" *BWAHAHAHAH!!!* of EA/DICE.

/CF




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#16 13 years ago

colonel_flaggFYI: This is coming from someone that 1) is a information systems manager, 2) has done all of the tweeks known for BF2, 3) is running a relatively fast (AMD 64 3500, 2gigs, x800) computer and 4) was running a perfectly stable 1.3 Battlefield 2 client prior to the 1.4 patch.

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DICE == Losers.

That's right. We've all known it for a very long time, but I've never made a "front page" article proclaiming it (see: www.internetwarzone.org).

Battlefield 2, at least up to 1.4, is a flying piece of shit. We had all the hopes that the 1.4 patch would fix a lot of things. Sure, they fixed a few things, but I believe they've broken more than they've fixed. It's worse than it was. Sure, 1.3 servers crashed, but my client didn't crash nearly as much, the lag was tolerable, the game menu worked better. Now, with 1.4, the lag is unbelievable, I crash constantly, the game menu is once again hosed. It lost the ability to read my mouse setup correctly (G5 Laser Mouse). I thought I had screwed something up on my computer. Then, Sirnaut advised me that I wasn't the only person experiencing the lag issues. He as well as many other (see BF2 related forums) are experiencing the same.

EA/DICE, you cannot hide this. This piece of shit game is just over a year old. Your programmers are incompetent, yet, you lay-off (see: FIRED!) the Trauma Studio folks that didn't want to move to Europe when you were finished screwing them in the ass.

I am at my wits end. EA/DICE have virtually killed off Battlefield 1942, a game with a few bugs, but it was stable and the community as a whole, loved it. Since then, I've put forth my efforts to migrate to the newest "thing" and this "thing", well, it F'in sucks.

I dunno what to do here. I am just about ready to throw in the towel. There's no other games I like as much as I do the Battlefield series, although, COD2 comes in a close second. I never played online games until I found Battlefield 1942. I am just about to quit playing online games once again. Yea, I've tried Quake 4, COD2, Half Life 2, CSS, etc. But they're not the kind of game I want to play... again, COD2 comes close and it's still an option.

I entered this world at the 1.5 patch level of Battlefield 1942. Folks told me that "...it was buggy as hell in the beginning." With the introduction of Battlefield 2142 within a year of Battlefield 2's release, what insurance do I have that Battlefield 2 will ever be patched fully? None.

It's all a money making game to them. They don't care about communities like IWZ. They don't care about the modders, that's evident from many mod communities' complaints to that very fact.

People want to take the side of the game and game developers. They state this and that, but the bottom line is, there's an issue and PROFESSIONALS see it. The average gamer, who ventures to server to server, experiencing lag on this one, but not on this one, doesn't consider everthing involved. ALL ranked/punkbuster linux servers have the same code. ALL ranked/punkbuster Microsoft server have the same code. If you visit 3 Microsoft servers and 1 of 3 have an issue, sure, it could be a routing issue, but if 10 of 30 have an issue and they're all on different backbone providers/routes? Please, don't try to point the finger elsewhere.

All of my favorite servers I had in my favorites list prior to 1.4 are giving me fits. Whether 32 or 64 player servers, whether linux or microsoft. With or without tweeking my computer, with or without custom drivers, batch files, registry tweeks... it doesn't matter.

I am sick of it. Honestly, if I could get my money back for Battlefield 2, I would.

Though 1.3 had it's issues, it was a godsend compared to 1.2x. I was pretty well happy with 1.3 come to think of it. No, I don't/didn't like Battlefield 2 as much as I did Battlefield 1942 and I never will. The hope was to get use to BF2 and wait it out until Forgotten Hope 2 came out. Looks like the BF2 engine is so hosed, it could ultimately screw up FH2 as well.

I don't see an answer to this, unless of course, EA/DICE decide to fix this piece of shit.

I can't go back to BF1942, there's hardly anyone playing it now. I can suffer and play on what's left of the Forgotten Hope servers until FH2 comes out. What I am thinking that I am not gonna do is, play Battlefield any longer. If I cannot find something in the BF1942 realm to do, then I guess that's it. I am done.

Battlefield 2142 is a fucking joke. It's as bad as Battlefield Vietnam was. Sure, I HOPED like hell BF Vietnam woulda been something special. Turned out to be crap as well.

EA/DICE haven't put forth anything worth mentioning in the Battlefield world since Battlefield 1942 and that's a FACT whether you or anyone else choose to believe it.

In closing, to make my point very succinct, I am done with Battlefield 2 until someone tells me that EA/DICE have fixed it or FH2 comes out.

I'll either not be playing or I'll be playing Battlefield 1942 or Forgotten Hope.

No, I am not changing or adding any BF1942 servers. For all I care, all of the IWZ servers can be closed down. I'll visit whatever Battlefield 1942/FH server that suits my fancy at the time and play there.

Hard to believe a company like DICE could possibly spell the end to our community. But, I suspect there's been many others out there that's been done the same way.

Colonel Flagg IWZ - Internet Warzone www.internetwarzone.org

How long did it take you yo figure out that dice will not fix it completely there underpaid over worked people like the Chinese with their mostly low quality cheap stuff. Rockstar needed to make bf2 they would have dane a way better job.




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#17 13 years ago

No need to for name calling here, it's totally uncalled for. It only makes posts less credible. We can all disagree with some respect, can't we?

Some may have had no issues with 1.3, but plenty of people did. Now some have an issue with 1.4, but it's apparant that plenty of people don't. Making blanket statements about how we will all soon have issues is ludicrous. There are no EA apologists here, if the game is messed up for us, we will darn well say so if asked. I personally think EA is an evil money grubbing corporation that ruins other gaming companies and game franchises, but I still don't blame them for everything that goes wrong.

madcat0i mean seriously, this patch problem is caused by you complainers in the first place, by whining on the first version of BF2 which had only a few minor bugs, but nooo, whiners wanted more,more,more out of it, just because the most of them didnt have a clue of how the game works and wanted the game to change for them.[/QUOTE]Indeed^ If it ain't broke... [QUOTE=konypt]I believe the problem with BF2 1.4 is NOT the 1.4 patch itself... it is the NEW version of PunkBuster that it requires.

Many of the problems ppl are now having with 1.4 originated with the PB update that occured earlier in the week before the official 1.4 patch release.

I noticed problems then and posted HERE about it.

Don't be SOOO quick to jump to scream 'its all Dice's fault'.

PB is potentially the bit of code that AFAIK causes the failures (as it has been documented in the past as doing so... even by PB themselves!) that occur just as you're getting into a game when the PB code tries to 'auto update' in game!

Great post. I hadn't even thought of that though I do recall PB issues in the past.




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#18 13 years ago
colonel_flaggDon't worry. I won't be playing it and the plan is, to take as many players with me as I can. More and more people are reporting to have trouble and no, it's not a punkbuster update causing the issue. It *could* be the way punkbuster is running with the new patch, but it's not a PB update issue as I have tweeked my punkbuster update time to max (500) and I have downloaded and run (before each time I start up BF2) the PB Update Utility for Windows. It's always easier to point the finger elsewhere. Point it at punkbuster, it's a third-party piece of software, DICE/EA couldn't possibly put something out this bad. Point the finger at the individual computer, the one that works fine and dandy with 1.3, but doesn't work with 1.4. The computer that works well with ALL OTHER GAMES, but doesn't work with Battlefield 2 1.4. It's as if people in these forums are EA/DICE sock puppets, making sure to try and preserve the "good name" *BWAHAHAHAH!!!* of EA/DICE. /CF

well then you need not post in these forums. No one here is a fanboy of dice or Ea ... But we don't need to hear the constant Bashing about it. And it sure as hell can be a pb issue within their update. You must be ignorant if you think that just because you changed the CLIENTSIDE update time, that you can affect the SERVERSIDE coding of punkbuster. Give me a break .... I played Soldier of fortune 2 for well over three years and if there is one thing i know and understand is the configs and updates with which they work with. Keep digging your hole but it will not be here. This is closed. Thanks to all the Sensible posters ... You guys rock.




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