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hellspawn45

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#1 15 years ago

System specs

mobo k7s5a duron 1.3 ghz processor 512mb ram radeon 9500pro(sapphire) some bad 15" monitor

Ok guys i need help, yet again. i can either

get a new mobo that will run my video card at 8x and ram at 333 and a athlon 2700+ and 17" trinitron monitor

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A radeon 9800pro

From what i understanf id i get the first option, i should be able to play the game full out all features on. Does this seem to make sense? I have seen benchmarks and it at times my 9500pro even goes faster than the nvidia fx 5900 in hl2 benchmarks.

So is my video card good enough?




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#2 15 years ago

Yeah, man, go with whatever runs better all out! But definately go with a Radeon!! If I were you, I would upgrade all my specs, not just graphics. Also what's your budget?

SAY NO TO nVIDIA !!!!!!!!!! Trust me. You can try, but if you look at the PC Gamer December 2003 Volume 10 #12 *I think that's the one* they go into detail comparing nVIDIA to (ATI) Radeon. The newest nVIDIA compared to the ATi Radeon 9100: nVIDIA=61% all around compared to the Radeon.

Dont mean to dis nVIDIA, but GO RADEON!!!!!!!!

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#3 15 years ago

DX9, PS 2.0, Full precision floating-point 2.8 GHz P-IV, 800 MHz FSB Average of several test DEM files Check Dealtime for prices NVIDIA Detonator 45.23 ATI Catalyst 3.7

*Note: The 9600 listed in the graphs is actually a 9600 Pro - it was a typo by Valve dx9_full.gif

Valve did a little homework on Pricewatch to see which card offers best frame rate for the dollar - yes, we're just as surprised as you are to see the 9600 Pro take the top honors. That doesn't meant at all that it's the best card, just the best value.

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The Full Precision mode runs 24-bit precision, the way Microsoft's DX9 calls for. This mode runs Half-Life 2 in full splendor - the experience Valve intends for the game to have. There's no doubting that ATI's hardware is clearly superior.

hl2_valve_dx9v8.gif

Here we have full precision mode versus DX8 mode - NVIDIA's own TI4600 runs this mode better than its current "DX9" hardware.




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#4 15 years ago

i wasnt asking to compare nvidia and ati, thanks anyway. I was asking if my radeon 9500pro will be good enough and i should just get a athlon 2700+ with a faster mobo and a new monitor? I want to play hl2 with full options on or most at least




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#5 15 years ago

Hence the reason i said this:

Amp (linkage2424)Yeah, man, go with whatever runs better all out! But definately go with a Radeon!! If I were you, I would upgrade all my specs, not just graphics. Also what's your budget?



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#6 15 years ago

Given the choices listed above I would go for the faster motherboard simply because a 9500 pro is already a great card and will perform for some time to come. A 9800 pro would only be slowed down by your current system and you wouldnt even notice the difference from the 9500.

You didnt specify your current ram but I'm assuming its pc2700 since you said 333Mhz? Just so you know, a new motherboard wont increase your ram to 333Mhz as it will be limited by the front side bus of your current cpu which is 200Mhz. Unless you upgrade the cpu or overclock your duron the best you can hope for from your ram is 200Mhz or the equivalent of pc1600. (provided you ram is currently pc1600 or faster?)

I'm guessing your budget is right around 350-400$ since the 9800 is an option. If I were you I'd do some bargain comparisons to see if you cant find a 333-400Mhz mobo, at least a 333Mhz cpu, and dump the trinitron for a cheaper model monitor. I bought a 17in. Mag innovision from best buy a few months back for 50$ that looks way better than my 500$ trinitron ever did.




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#7 15 years ago

thanks for all the replies. I guess since i believe and everyone else belives my 9500pro is good enough easily that i will get the new mobo athlon 2700+ because then my pc 2700 ram is fully in use instead of limiting it to pc 2100 and also for agp 8x. and i guess i will look into mag monitors maybe i will even get a 19 inch. thanks for all the help

Dan




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#8 15 years ago

hmmmm, i'd go for the first 1, but you radeon 9500pro won't be able to run the game at max settings. And what makes you think a 9500pro can beat a fx5900 (outdated, fx5950 )




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#9 15 years ago

Make sure you go for a motherboard with the nforce 2 chipset becuase there is some issues with the KT400 on older bios it dont like the 8x agp on the 9700 and upwards.

I bought a asus a7n8x deluxe a few months back and its fantastic, great sound (comes with 5.1 channel), supports 8xagp, Serial ATA (RAID) 6 usb ports and firewire. Theres some other features but ive not took advantage of them. The Chaintech 7NJS Zenith is a great mb too but uses 3rd party sound so i dont think it would make much of a difference unless your a sound enthusiast.

AMD zone have a nforce2 roundup here: http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1286

The asus isnt listed but this should give you an idea of what to look for. You should get some nice stuff, a chip, memory and a mb for $300.




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#10 15 years ago

I disagreee about the thing that my 9500pro wond t run it full. The game needs a lot of cpu power and only requires a tnt 2. also if you look in the benchmakrs for hl2, the 9600 which is pretty much the same as 9500 beats the fx

Also they are bundling hl2 with the radeon 9600pro so i wou8ild think i can run perfect when i get new mobo and processor




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