I tried playing one and one as a galaxy-class with no shields vs. a BOP....like in the movie...it didn't work that well....I think the hull in BC for galaxy could have been stronger cause i took like a few hits before stuff started going offline, while in the movie, they survived for quite a while....I tried targeting the rear photons while they were cloaked too...not easy...
Do you think one photon should be able to take out a cloaked bird of prey? I'm interested in what other people think.
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27th June 2002
I think generations was BS. Even if the Enterprise had no sheilds... it should have easily taken out that BOP anyhow. It was a 20 year old BOP!!!!!!!!!! That REALLY makes me mad! It's so "un-candid" how that ONE BOP took out the Enterprise. You know the size different between a Galaxy class ship and a BOP??? It's not even close!!!! The hull of the Galaxy is SO strong! But that's not even what matters.... it doesn't matter how strong the hull is b/c the Enterprise should have been able to destroy the BOP so easily! That's my perspective on it.
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10th March 2002
Three things majorly wrong with that scene.
1) As stated before, the Enterprise was more than capable of laying some serious smackdown on the BoP. All it did was one measly phaser strike that wasn't even a second long.
2) They could have ejected the warp core when the coolant leak started.
3) They could have put someone else at the helm other than Troi.
Yeah...I think they could have put someone else at the helm rather than Troi...never let a woman drive....
I think Generations directors knew of the warp core ejection, but didnt add it because they wanted to crash the saucer section...although they could have added how the ejection sequence was offline or something...
The crew probably could have put up more of a fight, but going up against a semi good ship with no shields probably would have been more damaging than just trying to evade it to find a plan....i never understood why they never could have rotated the shield frequencies like they did during Borg encounters....just my perspective though...thanks for repyling guys
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30th June 2002
the whole shield frequencies not being changed struck me as stupid in the film. Really. If someone was firing on you, and they had found a way to penetrate your shields, what would you do?
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I agree with everyone.
The Enterprise D shouldnt have been destroyed. They were (hmm,,werent) fighting a 20 year old BOP
There was much more they could have done: 1) Actually Fought back 2) Remodulate shield frequencies (as with fights with the Borg) 3) or, as said before, eject the warp core (AHA! There was something Geordi could do about it!)
Yeah, I think remodulating shields probably would have been a good idea, but i dont know if the crew knew that the klingon's knew their shield frequency....I think all I remember hearing is Worf saying about how they had found a way to penetrate the shields...for all they could have known, the Klingon's could have had a new weapon or something...they still could have at least tried it though....I wonder if rotating shield frequencies is like a standard tactic when in battle...although i think Janeway did it like every episode...oh well...
Even though it was a 20 year old bird of prey, i'd like to think their disruptors are still a small thing to be feared....with shields, probably not, but with no shields, they might be able to do a tad bit of damage....they even sound scary and spooky.....ooh disruptors....
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30th June 2002
the disrupters did make some pretty big holes, didn't they?
but you would probably have to fear even a cruise missile without any shields, if you couldn't shoot it down.
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20th August 2002
that scene really sucked. I like the Enterprise D. But they had to kill it for a new ship. -.- They should have rewritten the ending.