Didn't know where to put this so I put it here. They are making COD 3 for "Next Gen" Consoles only. Sad day for the pc gaming community. Please don't flame me for putting this here.
EhrlichmannDidn't know where to put this so I put it here. They are making COD 3 for "Next Gen" Consoles only. Sad day for the pc gaming community. Please don't flame me for putting this here.
No flames, just old news that's all, but not surprising given the latest trends: http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=253309
COD Über Support
20th November 2004
well, they made 'console only' versions of COD before, but it didnt mean the end of the COD franchise for the PC - remember COD: Big Red One? remember COD: Finest Hour? they were 'console only'
What has happened is that some people have misunderstood what IW are doing and thought that there will not be anymore COD games for PC. In fact, this is further from the truth.
Firstly, IW isnt making COD3 - just like Big Red One, COD3 is being made by the same developers that made UO - Tryearch (Grey Matter). So, IW is not stopping making COD titles for the PC as it was rumored. It is just that Tryarch is continuing to do what they have always done for a long time now - make COD titles for console. Indeed, one of the IW devs I still speak to, has told me that IW has some great COD titles lined up for PC next year.
Secondly, and most importantly, this week we have the E3 convention, which is all about Electronic entertainment. At this convention, it has been announced by Microsoft that Windows Vista - the new Windows OS -will make the dual platform concept (i.e. console vs PC) a thing of the past, as you will be able to run either software on your PC.
there is talk of the other console companies coming on board this concept, with both Sony and Nintendo planning talks with MS next year, prior to the release of Vista.
So, when Vista is launched next year, we wont be having anymore of this dual platform wars - particularly where XBoX 360 and PC are concerned - as the emulator software built into Vista will be able to run either console or PC software titles.
Ya I see how you are saying this. I did in fact misunderstand this after all. They also make money from the PC market to so they wont leave the pc world.
tallySo, when Vista is launched next year, we wont be having anymore of this dual platform wars - particularly where XBoX 360 and PC are concerned - as the emulator software built into Vista will be able to run either console or PC software titles.
Wow, this is news to me, and many others I assume. Where did you read this? Does it mean the console games when played on PC will work with keyboard & mouse?
Also, if they can be played with KB/M setups, will there be issues with deadzone lag like the KB/M adapters currently available for the original Xbox. From what I've read there are 3 ways to play cansole originated games on PC, ones that are entirely rewritten for PC, ported versions, and via using the adapter setups (SmartJoy FRAG, MagicBox, etc).
Since the original made for console games are designed to work with mini analog toggles, it's pretty hard to get them to work well with KB/M. Even the SmartJoy FRAG that adjusts for joystick (minitoggle) deadzone lag, does not work well with many game using KB/M). If you look at SmartJoy FRAG's demonstration movies of it in action, you will notice that the majority of them are of Halo, which works great with the FRAG, but many if not most do not work with KB/M ideally (ie: not nearly as good as with a made for PC game).
What does this translate to fo those not understanding the end result? (I don't mean you Tally) It means merely turning around 180 degrees often requires brushing the mouse across the pad at least a few times. It means your look/movement direction will be slow in the center of the mouse pad, and dramaticlly faster as you sweep it left/right, up/down. Thus making it hard to control movement, view, aim, etc.
COD Über Support
20th November 2004
well, I got the info from several reports from E3 itself, most notebly from FPSgaming.
There is talk of all PC games running on Vista to use the gamepad and not the keyboard/mouse - which will be bad news, as its those controllers which give PC games the advantage (im mho).
Also a step back for PC games will be the fact that cross platform games will have to be designed with the lowest common denominator in mind - which will be the console. COD2 is already undoubtedly very console-ish at the moment, and whereas I happen to think its a very playable game (some would call me a 'fanboi', and Im happy with that title), there are aspects of it that annoy me (like the nade spams - due entirely to the console key arrangments). So, on the assumption that this is only going to get worse, I am worried about the future palyability of PC games vis-a-vis console-ish type games on Vista.
Only time will tell, but I think that we will all have to either adapt to the changes, or find another route to online gaming other than Vista-type PC/Console games. One of those routes will more than likely be PC games which are coded from an OS other than Windows Vista. I see a great many future games being designed soley for Linux or MAC, and it may mean the true PC affectionado gamer will go over to Linux full time.
Personally, I have no problem with that for gaming, but Windows is the future of life on the PC in mho, as the majority of software will always be for that platform rather than any other. And, of course, one of the major bug bears with Linux is the nightmare getting drivers and stuff to run on it. Indeed, internet connectivity will always be easier on a Windows-based platform unless Linux improves 1000% in the future.
NOTE - this is an interesting debate, should I move it to COD2 general discussion?
tallyThere is talk of all PC games running on Vista to use the gamepad and not the keyboard/mouse - which will be bad news, as its those controllers which give PC games the advantage (im mho). Also a step back for PC games will be the fact that cross platform games will have to be designed with the lowest common denominator in mind - which will be the console.
Whoa, back up a bit here, don't you mean all "CONSOLE" games running on Vista? Bad enough the console industry invades the PC platform to the extent of getting games playable on both platforms written favoring consoles, & console games still only playable via THEIR controllers, but you can't seriously mean "all PC games running on Vista" will require controllers?
I'm right there with you on KB/M being more efficient and an advantage, but that's no excuse for a corporation that literally owns the world OS market to allow console games to take over the PC platform. This is sounding all the more war prone concerning console vs PC, not the other way around. MS clearly doesn't give a hoot about PC's as far as gaming goes.
I have proposed this before, and don't know if it's possible, but can't they find a way to allow KB/M use for console games offline only? If that is possible it would at least let us play them any way we want in the privacy of our own homes, without affecting online console match outcomes by it.
Why is it that many PC games can be played with gamepads, but never the other way around. To keep it the way it is, or worse continue in the direction you detailed, would be unfair and dangerous to the future of the PC gaming industry.
Considering the huge profits taken in by the video game industry anymore, and the impact it has on the economy, this is getting to the point where lawsuits could develope concerning MS's manipulation of an industry, much like happened with them a while back.
Yes, I say put the thread on GD, it will likely get more hits that way. I'd like to hear as much input on the subject as possible, and thanks for enlightening us.;)