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mlespaul

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#1 12 years ago

I posted this question elsewhere on "COD Files" with another ID (forgot who I was, sorry), but, in the U.S. campaign portion, what's the background on those other German troops fighting alongside the standard "fieldgray" wehrmacht-style troops that are wearing long olive-drab/brown fieldcoats and helmets with an odd split red and yellow shield helmet decal? I can't find any historical detail on this uniform style. Are they supposed to be foriegn (non-german) volunteer units, or something?




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#2 12 years ago

I Think these are the feldwebeln. These were the (correct me if im wrong) scouts and explosive men of the wehrmacht. Like the sappers in the british army ;)




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#3 12 years ago

feldwebels were field leaders, officers that commanded soldiers on the field. i dont know the allied equivalent for it... its true that that particular uniform is intriguing, the long "M1942 greatcoat" he is wearing was rarely seen on the western front in that particular period. The helmet he is wearing is covered with a net, this was also quiet "rare", it occured but not as often as it does in the game. the decal on his helmet is another big "?" , i have never seen it before... My conclusion is; that this is just a soldier they put in there to add some difference. Without really taking historical facts in account, even if it makes no sense at all. the game is filled with such errors: did you notice the german officers that walk around on the battlefield with their parade uniforms?!? > :confused: :uhm: and the fact that you fight the elite panzer units ( > panzer ss division) without meeting a single ss soldier, the soldiers you meet all wear wehrmacht uniforms... :( another fun fact: did you notice half the german army in europe is obese?!? and 1/4 wears a mustache??> forbidden in german army...




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#4 12 years ago
Lt. SpeirsI Think these are the feldwebeln. These were the (correct me if im wrong) scouts and explosive men of the wehrmacht. Like the sappers in the british army ;)

:naughty: Ok I will correct you then (LOL) . A Feldwebel equals a Sergeant in the US Army.:cya:




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#5 12 years ago

@ aufklarer: Aufklarer wrote:" The helmet he is wearing is covered with a net, this was also quiet "rare", it occured but not as often as it does in the game" You are right there.. it wasn't until after the D-Day invasion that German troops began extensively camouflaging themselves and their material on a massive scale and then only mostly the SS. @ MLESPAUL : The Germans used a lot of volunteer forces from the occupied countries (even as far as Iran etc.) and they all had their own insignas. Most of them were used to hold unsignificant frontlines on the Eastern Front (until the enemy broke through) to keep the "real" German forces there were the harsh fighting took place. Needless to say that almost 70% of those volunteers didn't survive..




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#6 12 years ago

yeah i think IW made it pretty hard for the skinners out there, how can they make realistic skins when the soldier models arent realistic. the only historically correct camo outfit is the "zeltbahn", that "poncho"-style outfit that is worn by some german soldiers. even though its rather poorly modeled: ingame it looks like a homeless guy with a potato bag over him... its a shame there are no camo helmet covers for the germans... no apropriate ammo pouches: all germans have kar98 pouches... no german soldier was stupid enough to keep eye protectors on when in battle, plus those "biker-glasses" were only issued to ranked soldiers or bikers... the american skins seem to need few, (if any) skinning...




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#7 12 years ago

The yellow/red split shield on the helmet was a design that was on Werhmacht helmets up to and including the invasion of Russia. It included another design on the other side(cant remember what it is at the mo though). This was stopped eventually because it was found to provide an excellant referance point for snipers!!!!. As for SS uniforms a lot of them were still issued with the fieldgray uniforms due to severe shortages of camoflague cloth and material. Captured/nicked war stocks were used extensivally to augment uniforms so a large variety can be seen in most late war photos Hope that helps




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#8 12 years ago

The red and yellow decal indicates that the soldier is a Spanish volunteer.




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#9 12 years ago

i get your point, but all german soldiers had the standard field grey uniform. only, the ss wore a reversible camo smock over the uniform. and by 1944 most of the ss had camo outfits, if there was a shortage it was because mass production had just begun. the german army was better equipped in weapons, camoflage and proper combat/winter clothing by the end of the war, then in any other period




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#10 12 years ago

The patch for the spanish brigade was worn on the shoulder as were the patches for all the other "volunteers" e.g indian, turkestan, britain etc. Not all SS wore camo uniforms for the late war period..have a look at the multitude of pics available in books or on the web and you"ll see a huge variety..I've got a pic in front of me of 2 SS men one of which has camo pants(Italian material) and a standard FIELD GREY jacket..the guy next to him has a non reversible m43 peajacket(camo) and FIELD GREY pants. The truth is out there people.




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