GF Pwns Me!
6th May 2005
I wanted to write this post, as a way to understand what people think of this weapon. Almost everyone I know hates it, and they ban it from use in *most* clans. After playing with my friend from school, on his Xbox 360, hes made some viable arguments why it is not what most players call it.
For instance, most people get angry when they are killed by a shotgun player, while the victim is using, for example, a Thompson. Normally, the Tommy user would win, but in this instance, the gun made *specifically* for close range wins. This death then results in petty bickering that it was unfair, that they should of killed the shotty player.
The level of surprise with the trenchgun is far superior to something else, in dealing with for example, a player hiding behind a wall, jumping out and killing the on rushing person. With the trenchgun, one good shot would kill a player leaving him surprised on what just happened, but if that same player used for example an MP44, a PPS, a Tommy, greasgun or MP40, the on rushing person has a chance, because it can take more then 1 round of those guns to kill someone.
Now, thats my opinion on this matter. I want to know what others think of this gun.
The Internet ends at GF
19th June 2006
Hmmm I agree with you that the trenchgun is stupidly unfair at close range. You would have more chnace against a ppsh spraying Russian newbie. Undecided.
Nature's best screw up.
27th July 2005
it tis a nub gun to much dam and for close range only noobs would pick sumthing like that veterans go for pistol kills and rifles:cya:
Ich Bin Das Auto
17th May 2006
I suggest that if anyone thinks it is a noob cannon should mod the game so that it is less powerfull. Even though it is a close-range weapon, the trenchgun wasn't nearly as powerfull as modern day combat shotguns, it would probably take 2 rounds to kill someone on an average chest shot (two full rounds not 2 pieces of shot).
I don't spend enough time here
18th January 2005
shotgun is a damn good weapon in sd.. if pam mode is running.. why? its the only gun that is givin smoke, it is limited to only one user .. so if u hate the shotgun so much , stop playing on servers that have the gun unlimited to so many people, play on pam servers that have the guns limited
I reckon the trenchgun is a perfectly ok weapon. (not a perfect weapon lol). A Scoped K98 has a long range advantage, shotgun has a close range advantage. So? It is designed for clearing corridors and the such and it does. The sniper rifle is designed to land a headshot at 300 Feet. All the weapons have their pros and cons. If you want a game where you dont rush a room with a shotgun then buy sniper elite. Its all about sniping (duh :p). And besides shotgun is a fun gun to use - you charge and hope you make it then get some good killing at point blank range.
5th June 2003
wolvesgoalie;3319399I suggest that if anyone thinks it is a noob cannon should mod the game so that it is less powerfull. Even though it is a close-range weapon, the trenchgun wasn't nearly as powerfull as modern day combat shotguns, it would probably take 2 rounds to kill someone on an average chest shot (two full rounds not 2 pieces of shot).
What are you talking about. The real Trench gun was a regular Pump action Remington shotgun. Even civilians could have this gun. The design has hardly changed from then, and shotguns aren't that much more powerful today. Anyway, one shot from any gun is enough to kill someone. If you took one shot in the chest with a shotgun, you may not die immediately but you are pretty much done fighting :-)
I think people dislike it because it is often a one hitter (1 good shot can easily kill, even without it being a headshot). Its the same reason people often dislike snipers. No-one likes being one shot killed when they didnt even know they were a target. It can be annoying. Intensely annoying. Walking along and pop! shotgun, youre dead. Fustrating. But it has its place in the game - it provides a hugely superior slose range waepon and variety. You have weapons for nearly all othe ranges : e.g Thompson for close range, gewher for short/mid, k98/enfiel for mid to long and the sniping rifles for long. So why not have a weapon for pointblanck action? Is it supposedly fair to die at longrange when having a standoff with a sniper and not die when at close range Vs. a shotgun?
Besides I would also argue that the shotgun kit/weapon is one that requires a huge amount of skill. You have to use cover better to get close - you can only really engage one opponent at a time, so you have to pick off the stragglers and you cant camp like a sniper. When killed by a sniper , it dosent necessarily give away his position, but a shotgunner must be really close so you know where he is. Capiche, no?
True as an egg.
4th February 2006
SVD_Sniper;3356243Besides I would also argue that the shotgun kit/weapon is one that requires a huge amount of skill. You have to use cover better to get close - you can only really engage one opponent at a time, so you have to pick off the stragglers and you cant camp like a sniper.
I guess you can use the trenchgun in two ways: sneaking to your victim (what you said) or just camping behind a door/table/whatever. Being killed on the first way doesn't make any difference with being sneaked with a tommy or whatever, but it really drives you to madness to be constantly killed by trenchgun campers. And that is the way the shotgun is most often used, so I vote "Noob cannon".
Now you again. Hehe.
Any more annoying than a camping sniper? Also STG44 or whatever can also be used for the same effect when camping. If you know where your enemy is coming from something like k98k at point blank is instant kill etc.. I think the camping is the annoying bit not so much the shotgun...
Any over to you in the studio :p