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#1 13 years ago

I know that you can't fly planes in cod uo..but i was thinking.. what plane totalled the luftwaffe? everyone is always saying whats the best tank, gun, and all of that. im thinking aircraft. i think that one of the best planes was the Messerschmidt BF109




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#2 13 years ago

The Messerschmitts were all German aircraft. (I'm sure you knew that, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic). They were also outdated and behind the curve at the end of the war. Although they were the workhorse fighter of the Luftwaffe. But as for an Allied aircraft? The B-17 was reliable, sturdy, and probably wreaked the most havoc durring the war. But the P51 Mustang was the Allies most technolgicly advanced fighter of the war, and was capable of escorting the the B-17's over very long distances.




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#3 13 years ago

Hawker Hurricane all round workhorse 4 the RAF unsung Hero ,then theres Supermarime Spitfire match 4 the Messerschmidt 109's anytime :beer:




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#4 13 years ago

I would say IL-2 Sturmovik if we would ask some sort of "ground support" plane.

Ju-87B if we ask a dive bomber.

B-17 if we ask tactical bomber.

Me-109\Bf-109 as overall fighter.

P-51 as fastest fighter.

Spitfires also gets 2nd place in overall.

De Haviland Mosquite as recoinnaisance plane.

Zero if we ask agile one.




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#5 13 years ago

The Mosquito was definantly the best plane overall.




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#6 13 years ago

Arg..... when you people learn these are not always based on some small facts but in opinions :D




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#7 13 years ago

The Spitfire and the Mustang was almost equal, but the Mustang ended up having better range, speed, and weapons (the British .303 was insufficient). My money goes on the P-51D which appreared near the end of the war. The Japanese planes were poorly aroured and too easy to shoot down, the German planes were not as agile, and the Russian planes were good but never excellent in any capacity, and too few. There were good ones Japan, Germany, and Russia, but none really stood out. The B-17 was the best medium bomber, largely because it had much better armament than the British Lancaster.




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#8 13 years ago

Hey It Doesnt Matter About Planes. It Matters About The Pilot. From All Pilots In The World The Red Baron Was The Best Pilot Ace In The World His Real Name Madfred was And Still Is Known As The Red Baron. But From Plane Overalls. The British Spitfire Is The Best From My Thinking. I Also Think The American Dauntless Is Good. The German Planes Were Poor But The Pilots Were Great Pilots. Howerver Due To KickBack The German Plane Will Easily Get Shot When Torperdoing Or Bombing Straight Down. The Japanese Plane Has Problems. The Russian Plane is Good But Not The Pilots. I Have To Say From Pilots Germany Has The Best Pilots. Bombers I Would Say German Bombers Were Good. German Bombers Had Way New Technologys. You Know The B-2 Bomber Of America Now Right. The Germans Had The B-2 Started. The HEL-634 Was A Great Bomber.




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#9 13 years ago

First of all: What exactly do you mean by best plane? Best fighter? Best bomber? Most sturdy? Most manouverable? Fastest? Cheapest? confusedx.gif

Old GonorreaI would say IL-2 Sturmovik if we would ask some sort of "ground support" plane.

Agreed.

Ju-87B if we ask a dive bomber.

You are aware of that the Berta was one of the earliest Stuka version? It was outdated in '40-'41. My money would either be on the latter Dora versions (D-5 to be more precise) or the SBD Dauntless as best dive-bomber.

B-17 if we ask tactical bomber.

The B-17 was a strategic bomber, not an tactical.

Me-109\Bf-109 as overall fighter.

Again, it all depends on what year and version you are talking about. The first '109 version to see service in the Luftwaffe during WW2 was the Bf 109D or Dora. When the war was over they had reached as far as '109K or Köning. And all version had different sub-versions; some with other engines, and some with other armament and mission equipment. Of all the '109 versions, the '109F-4 or Friedrich is generally considered the best dogfighter, while the famous G-6 or Gustav was produced the most (some sources states as much as 12000 of the total 33000 '109s produced were G-6). The latest K-4 models had an very powerful engine, and could pack a punch with as much as 3x 30mm cannons (MK108s [the MK103 was never used in the '109, due to small space]) and 2x 13mm MGs (MG131).

P-51 as fastest fighter.

Oh? Have you forgot the jet-fighters, such as the Me 262 Schwalbe and Gloster Meteor?

Spitfires also gets 2nd place in overall.

I'm not so sure about your ranking. It all depends on versions and

De Haviland Mosquite as recoinnaisance plane.

I would put the Ar 234 as the best recon plane (as long as it aint fitted with bombs), and the Mosquito on an close 2nd.

Zero if we ask agile one.

Last batch of Lavochin fighters, La-7 was probarly more agile.

Hey It Doesnt Matter About Planes. It Matters About The Pilot.

So true.

From All Pilots In The World The Red Baron Was The Best Pilot Ace In The World His Real Name Madfred was And Still Is Known As The Red Baron.

That is a good pilot, indeed. But I would still place aces like Hans-Joachim Marseille, Heinz Bär, Erich Hartmann, Adolf Galland, Werner Mölders and Günther Rall before him. Not to mention high-scoring soviets like Aleksandr Pokryshkin.

The British Spitfire Is The Best From My Thinking.

May I ask how you can say the Mk I was better than the latter Mk IX and onwards?

I Also Think The American Dauntless Is Good.

Dito. An superb divebomber, which could carry a good deal of bombs.

The German Planes Were Poor But The Pilots Were Great Pilots.

I can see English aint your first language either. I will try to understand. The planes wasnt that poor. The Fw 190 latter Anton versions, and then the Dora-9 was exelent planes, which could carry a MASSIVE armament of 2x 30mm MK108, 2x 20mm MG 151/20 and 2x 13mm MG131. And the ground attack versions, the '190 Freidrich and Gustav could carry as much as ~1500kg of bombs. The '109 were outdated by the end of the war, yes, but they were not bad planes.

Howerver Due To KickBack The German Plane Will Easily Get Shot When Torperdoing Or Bombing Straight Down

I dont get what you are saying now. The Kampflieger of the Luftwaffe was very good, altough the lacked the heavy bombers of the RAF and USAAF. It were decided during the buildup in the '30s that they were going to focus on smaller, twin-engine bombers (He 111, Ju 88, Do 217), instead of larger bombers with more range. The smaller bombers were well suited for the German blitzkrieg, and were much cheaper to produce; 2-3 twin-engined bombers could be prdduced instead of 1 large long range bomber. This proved to be a major mistake later in the war, but if they had build large strategic bombers instead (like the Me 264 "Amerika Bomber"), they wouldnt have close to how many planes they had when the war begun.

The Japanese Plane Has Problems.

The Jap planes were generally "easy" to shoot down, as they werent as sturdy, and would catch fire easily. But the Japanese war industry produced some remarkable good planes, such as the N1K "Shiden". Not forget that the famous Zero's had an remarkable long range, seeing it was designed during the '30s.

The Russian Plane is Good But Not The Pilots.

The pilots werent very good trained during the first years, yes. But from late '42-'43 they were getting better and better.

I Have To Say From Pilots Germany Has The Best Pilots.

Agreed. Bombers I Would Say German Bombers Were Good. German Bombers Had Way New Technologys.

You Know The B-2 Bomber Of America Now Right. The Germans Had The B-2 Started.

If you are talking about the Horton Go-229, you are right. They did have the technology to build "flying wings", but only 2 were every built, and of this, only 1 had engines. It crashed after some testflying, btw.

The HEL-634 Was A Great Bomber.

Can you point out for me on what you are talking about?confusedx.gif

The Spitfire and the Mustang was almost equal, but the Mustang ended up having better range, speed, and weapons (the British .303 was insufficient). My money goes on the P-51D which appreared near the end of the war.

I can agree on that. The Mustang was probarly one of the wars best fighters.

The Japanese planes were poorly aroured and too easy to shoot down,

Mostly true.

the German planes were not as agile,

Oh? What about the Fw 190 series?

and the Russian planes were good but never excellent in any capacity, and too few.

Too few? What are you smoking? You are aware of the production capazity of the Soviet forces, right? Example: After 22nd of June '41 (Operation Barbarossa), the soviets lost 1600 planes in just 24 hours. But they still had 6000 to go...

There were good ones Japan, Germany, and Russia, but none really stood out.

Okey? You're an american right?

The B-17 was the best medium bomber, largely because it had much better armament than the British Lancaster.

I would classify them as Heavy bombers. And DONT forget the B-24 Liberator. SUM UP: The answer to "Best plane of WW2" cannot be answered entirely. IMO, the best fighters were the P-51D, Fw 190D-9, Me 262A1-a, Spitfire Mk. IX and La-7. The list could go on and on... smilie.gif




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#10 13 years ago

Well English Isnt My 1st Language Its Korean But I Was Born Here Now Back To The Planes The HEL-634 Im Sorry But I Messed Up On That Its Called Something Like The HEL- Something. Well I Would Say The British Lancaster Bomber Was Good Too. Any Of You Heard Of The German Atomic-10? One Of The Greatest Aces In Germany Was Known As The Mysterious Man But Couldnt Be Identified After He Died In His Plane Burning When He Crashed In A Telephone Pole. He Was Caught Burned With His Bodie Perished. Do You Guys Know Him?




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