Hi guys... I have a very puzzling question. First let me say that I've been playing COD almost since it first came out. It was only about 2-3 months ago...that i noticed this ODD thing that happens with SOME players. I kept noticing while spectating that some guys had very little image shake when they shot their mg's. By that term I mean the shake of the whole image in front of you when you're shooting. It is from recoil...but I am not speaking of the movement of gun barrels..ok? I usually have quite alot of image shake due to the recoil..nomatter what I am shooting. ppsh is less of course..but the image still shakes..mostly UP AND DOWN when shooting. Some guys have little or no image shake...and to me...that gives them an advantage over guys like myself. I am wondering if any of you know what is causing this; and why the difference from player to player? I have asked it many, many times and no one seems able to give me a satisfactory answer yet. Is it a hack? Some alteration of the configuration somehow? I am sure it is not the connection one has..because I have checked..and it happens(or don't happen) nomatter the connection of the player. Also don't believe it is the video card. If it WERE the card a person has...then everyone I spectate would be rendered the same on my system..right? But everyone is not..there is alot of difference for some guys. I would appreciate any advice or oppinions on this. Have a good one. Falcon
What are these damn animals?
1st July 2004
then everyone I spectate would be rendered the same on my system..right?
Right. It might be a player modification or something, maybe even a hack. I've got no idea though.
20th May 2003
More than likely...it's very sad....
Thanks for that reply..I very much appreciate it. Lets hope others will jump in with their oppinions. It is very puzzling to me, I can tell you that much. I am determined to get an answer..a reason as to why some do not have this image shaking effect. Like you, I too have had to conclude that it IS a hack of some kind...but in order to be fair and give players the bennefit of the doubt I continue to ask guys everywhere if they know WHY this happens with some guys. One thing for sure it gives the one who has little or no image shake(from the recoil) a very unfair advantage over those who like myself..have what we consider to be "normal" recoil effect. Much easier to aim..or correct your aim immediately when your image is perfectly still while shooting. Anyone else with a view on this? Thanks guys. Falcon
Its not a hack, its down to expensive graphics cards I think. I have a GForce 6800 Pro (about £370). When I had a crappy ATi 9600 I had image shake like you described. Now I don't.
tallyIts not a hack, its down to expensive graphics cards I think. I have a GForce 6800 Pro (about £370). When I had a crappy ATi 9600 I had image shake like you described. Now I don't.
Hiya Tally... That is very interesting stuff. I have been trying what seems like for ages to find out the reason. God..I bet alot of guys are hoping that is NOT the reason(grin). Funny thing about that though...I've talked with and watched guys with all kinds of different quality video cards; and it doesn't seem to matter. Maybe just at the highest level card? You may have something there, I suppose. So whats your oppinion of my GeForce 5900XT?..crappy or what? :-) And isn't it a bit odd that not everyone appears the same to me..but some appear to have LESS image shake..some more? Anyone else here who has a high end card? If so..can you share the type of card it is...and whether or not you have this image shake? I would be very interested in comments from you high end video card users. Don't be shy..ok?(grin) Have a good one. Falcon
LOL. I dont think they make a 9500XT. 9600XT yes. Check this out: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=780050&goto=nextnewest Its an inexpensive card. Prolly gives you the shakes LOL.
tallyLOL. I dont think they make a 9500XT. 9600XT yes. Check this out: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=780050&goto=nextnewest Its an inexpensive card. Prolly gives you the shakes LOL.
Ok Tally... Thanks for that reply..but you still haven't said why it is that not everyone is rendered THE SAME to me..If it is MY video card!! Maybe I just don't understand enough about the cards..which is very possible(grin). But logic seems to tell me...that if my card CANNOT display things smoothly for me as I am playing the game(the image shake) and also while spectating others...then how on earth am I able to spec and see some of these guys? Do you see what I'm saying? It seems that MY card would not pick up the difference. I can see HOW SMOOTH their view is...just as if I myself had their card. I also see the differences in different players..and how their image moves. I'm a bit puzzled by all this..so forgive my ignorance in this field. Some guys have more and some less image shake from recoil...thats all I know for sure. Oh, and btw- I don't believe I spoke of a 9500??? Don't even know where that comes from, man. I think I said 5900XT :-) You have a good one Falcon
LOL ok, made a mistake about your card's id. sorry! As for what your seeing when you play and when you spec, it is because the graphics engines work differently when playing as opposed to spec - which is why you can get lag when you play but don't when you spec, even on the same server - at the same time (a common puzzle to people). The game is designed to give a different 'feel' while playing, then when you spec. Again, all down to how the graphics package is implemented through the game. So why do some peps with the same cards get different results? Some getting the shake, while the other not? Well, its all down to soft mods. The 'better' graphics cards have soft mods built into them already. But you can download soft mods for the cheaper cards. Let me explain. The manufacturers make a hugh range of cards in each series. But they can't tool their productions for each individual ones. So, they tool for the most expensive cards, and simply disable the more advanced features in the budget ones. For example, the ATi 9600 is the SAME board as the 9800XT/Pro, but the 9600 has only 4 pixel pipes enabled, as opposed to the 6 for the 9800. The other 2 pipes are disabled. You follow? Now, the expensive cards come with software which gives you total control over the card - the pixel pipes, vertex rendering engines, etc. But the cheaper cards have all these features disabled - but they can be opended via something called soft mods. Software which 'opens' the supposedly closed pixel pipes. I did it on my old ATi 9600, effectively making it perform at twice the capablity it did without the soft mod. This is known as 'overclocking'. I hope this explains things for you.
YES! That is a much better explanation...thanks :-) So in order to compete at the level some of these guys play at..with their 6800 Ultra(and so forth)..I will have to fork over $400.00? Wow! My nephew does all the overclocking stuff for me..and I really don't fathom all the tech talk on that, but thank you for explaining it all. I just in the past few days received my new P4 3.2 processor..and can't very well afford another video card at the moment, you know. I'll tell you though...it sure gives those guys with the high end cards a real advantage over guys like myself; that smooth image is "sweeet" lol Again, thanks alot man. Oh, and I still am interested in other guys oppinions of their cards and this subject. Later man. Falcon