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CyberRaptor

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#1 14 years ago

You know who you are. Id Software spent four years on that game to make it the best it could be, and they did a good job living up to the expectations. If you are a true Doom fan, please go out and make your copy legit. Don't you want to support them so that they can make more of the games you like? They are devoted to their fans and the least you can do to reward their four years of hard work is to pay for a legit copy like everyone else.




Luciano

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#2 13 years ago

Pirates Rock ! They just balance the picture ! If ID makes a kick ass game they have nothing to worry about , cause people will go out and buy the game ! Plus , the game is made in such a way that if you want to play online you gotta get a legit copy , there is just no way around it . So , don't give me this crap about how ID is not gonna make more than enough money for their work . It's a shame that more and more companies they want to trick you into buying their games/products without even giving you a DEMO version to try out . All you see lately is demo videos/pictures and that's it . And if you are a legit user what do you get ? - CD checks , encriptions and copy protections on top of more copy protections - false claims , like the shit i see from Nvidia how the , Geforce6800Ultra was made to run Doom3 .... let me tell you something , that garbage GF6800U goes for about $800 on some websites , same price as a professional OpenGL card like 3DLabs Wildcat Realizm 800 .... if that GeForce 6800 Ultra was really designed with Doom3 in mind , than sure as hell i expect to be able to run that game at 1280x1024 / 32bit color / 16x Antialiasing and get at least 120 FramesPerSecond if i'm gonna pay $600-$900 for a video card .... looks to me that alot of kids/people are getting ripped off , big time .... Doom3 does not leave up to the hype .... It's good , but very far from impressive .... all that hype about high precision here and shader model 3 there .... i see plenty of banding in those fake dynamic lights that Doom3 uses .... looks like low precission to me .... nothing impressive about it .... that fucking 4x antialiasing on Nvidia hardware does absolutely nothing to improve image quality but has no problem at all reducing the frame rate by 30-50 % .... looks like some people are getting screwed .... including me .... so shut a f*ck up about how Pirates Suck , cause they do nothing more then open your eyes and reduce the non-sense so you can make an informed decision .... giving you a DEMO , cause the developers are too lassy to give you a DEMO version of their game but they have no problem raising the hype to monumental levels .... Bottom line is , you , the legit user get fucked .... so , yeah , thanx alot for those cd checks and the rest of the non-sense + punk-buster garbage that ruin good games , so don't even complain if more and more people are gonna decide to wait and see how things go before they run out and waste alot of money on garbage ....




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#3 13 years ago

CyberRaptor, I could not agree with you more, and am proud that somebody besides me on these forums feels that way strongly enough to mention it. I stronly believe that pirates, especially of id's games, are nothing other that unappreciative, self-centered bastards looking for a free ride in a free game. Here's karma for you. :D

As for YOU, Luciano... :mad:




Luciano

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#4 13 years ago

The fact that the game sucks has nothing to do with piracy . The price for Doom3 as is stands right now should be around $10 not $50 . But that's just my opinion cause i think it sux . People should get compensated by merit . Does Doom3 deserve $50 ? Not even f*cking close ! I just want my money to go to people who actualy deserve it . The fact that you can't return a game if you don't like it , it's just another ripp-off . Thank God For Piracy I Say ! cause otherwise things would really go out of balance . So much hype and false claims everywhere you look . Things should be very simple ! Money back guaranteed ! That way you support with your money only the people/developers who deserve it !




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#5 13 years ago

Well, I agree with you in certain respects, disagree, in others: obviously we feel very differently about the game, so be it. I do agree, however, that one should be able to recieve a refund on a game that they dislike. But I in no way believe that this merits piracy of the game itself. I would feel the same way for Half-Life 2, coming from Valve Software as I do for Doom 3, coming from id Software.




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#6 13 years ago
LucianoThings should be very simple ! Money back guaranteed ! That way you support with your money only the people/developers who deserve it !

No way in hell that would ever happen or else you could buy any game (for solo purpose) and then just bring it back when your done. And piracy would not help sales theres something called a cd cracks in case you didnt know. (mybe you dont know about that .5k co-op mod?) Not to mention that doom 3 is for solo most people that go out of their way to warez a game prolly wont buy it later. I thought a doom 3 demo version would be out about now. Anyways if you hate the game so much some places like eb games let you bring in used games for discounts. As for anyone who would support warez like this... Since they're too poor to even buy the game I hope they're too poor to own a computer that could even run it and good riddance. Remember that warez is the same thing as shoplifting but atleast if you shoplifted youll have enough balls to talk to a cop about why you think it should be sold for 10$ instead of randomly ranting about how warez are good for the game. Even though theyre not good for the game. warez: -Hurt the gaming industry -Hurt the company that made the game (in this case ID) -Delay the release of the games.




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#7 13 years ago

Cd cracks and stuff like that apply to the SinglePlayer side of things and that's not what interest me at all . There are no cracks for Multiplayer and that's a good thing , plus a simple software update renders all your cracks useless , so don't even compare a cracked version of the game with a legit one cause they are not the same thing . When you buy the retail game you get a product , in a box , with manual , with all the things you need , physical media + support , software updates and the rest . Cracked software gives you viruses , trojans and bunch of other crap and nobody in their right mind would even waste their time downloading a cracked version of a game when they know for sure they like that game . So stop saying a cracked version a of a game is the same as the retail version cause it's not . It's more of a DEMO , comming from who knows who , infected with who knows what . If the game is good people will buy it . Don't blame pirates for anything cause what you get from them could be complete garbage and you can't compare it with the real thing . People will stick with a crapy cracked version only if they don't like it enough to go and buy it . Those are not the people you are targeting in the first place . I would want my customers to be satisfied , wouldn't you ? Let me give you a simple example : Months later , i still feel that FarCry deserves every penny , while BFV it's a piece of garbage that got my money without merit . I paid for both of them but only one deserves deserves my support . So how do you stop this kind of ripp-off ? You can't .... People who deal with warez are just paying the price in a different way , taking the risks and dealing with viruses and getting garbage from who knows who , spending 4 days downloading a fake file and shit like that ..... Piracy can not be blamed for it and you know it . Valve is blaming the hacker , ID is blaming the hard-drive failure .... Give me a brake .... just lower the price , tell the truth and move on .... Doom3 is more of a game engine , but not much of a game .... everybody knows it .... people who like it , will buy it no matter what .... piracy has nothing to do with it .... just balancing things out a bit in a very insignificant way .... And warez would be same thing as shop lifting if the cracked version of the game is exactly the same as the real , legit version , which is not even fucking close to the truth .... they are not the same thing , not now , not ever ....




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#8 13 years ago

Thats some good points. I know that you wont be able to play multiplayer with a cracked version of doom but a few newer good games that are out are for solo only even if they have multi. Painkiller, FryCry, Doom 3 are the biggest ones. How cracked version of doom 3 compared to real? Someone mind filling me in because I dont download warez. I have the hacked version of FryCry and guess what? I wont buy the real thing, ever. about a month ago at lan -Disconnecting "I played the FryCry demo and it looks like a great game too bad im broke cause I just made a new computer just for doom 3 when it comes out." -Armyguy "Well thats no problem I have a hacked version that you can use." -Disconnecting "This is a great game too bad theres this one damn bug is really pissing me off." -Armyguy "Thats because this is a hacked copy its not in the real thing." -Armyguy "So your going to buy the real thing after you get doom 3 right?" -Disconnecting "No, im not wasting money for some game that I already beat." And yes I still have that hacked version of FryCry and im not going to buy a real copy. This bug that kept pissing me off was some parts of the level textures wont load and turn white but it was still playable. How different was the cracked version of doom comepared to the real? You never told us.

People who deal with warez are just paying the price in a different way , taking the risks and dealing with viruses and getting garbage from who knows who , spending 4 days downloading a fake file and shit like that .....

Same thing is said about porn... And any 12 year old that doesnt know jack about computers can fix that even if they have to reformate.

And warez would be same thing as shop lifting if the cracked version of the game is exactly the same as the real , legit version , which is not even fucking close to the truth .... they are not the same thing , not now , not ever

It seemed close to the real deal for me.

People will stick with a crapy cracked version only if they don't like it enough to go and buy it.

I have a hacked version and I think FryCry is a great game even if its "less then perfect." The only thing that I can think of is that dooms cracked version is so crappy you cant even play it overwise people who warez, play it, beat the game and like it somewhat will never go out and buy it. And do you know why? Because they beat the game for solo theres no point in paying for something your going to use.




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#9 13 years ago

There are a few good points in what I've read, but your arguments about piracy being alright, I just think its wrong. Its basically stealing from the company that made it, and is it really worth it? I'd feel guilty playing a game that I knew I didn't pay for. But that's just me, it depends on your moral code, whatever it may be.

For the idea of returing games you aren't satisfyed, I very much like that idea, but it probably won't happen at regular stores (I beleive its called renting?), the market for computer games would suffer if people played a game through, claimed it was bad, and returned it for a refund.




Luciano

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#10 13 years ago

If you are willing to format your hard-drive every day then sure , you are much better off downloading crap from p2p . That means that all the stuff that you download is absolutely worthless , but if your bussiness or job would depend on that piece of software you would not be so happy having to reformat your hard-drive or to get your important stuff ruined / lost , so i'm pretty sure you would buy the software that is important to you .

Renting ? great idea , let me know where can i rent Doom3 . It would cost me alot less than $10 . Or at least a demo version . I'm not asking for much . If you are interested to just beat the game then put in the garbage , more power to you . I'm more interested in MODS and multiplayer stuff .

I buy all the games and software that i really like despite the fact that i also download a ton of garbage from P2P . So , you think you are all much better ? I don't think so .... Sorry to brake it to you bud , but the fact that you can't get a refund on a game purchased by mistake clearly shows that you are treated as a PIRATE and a CRIMINAL allready .... you just don't know it yet ....

Doom3 , from what i've seen so far , has only 5 multiplayer maps and the same crapy editor as Quake3 . There are some improvements but i'm mostly dissapointed . Anyway , i don't think we have seen everything yet , so if i see some good mods coming out you can bet your ass that i will buy it . But then there is the hardware side of things and it's pretty clear that my GeForce TI 4200 just won't cut it . So i will have to get a kick ass video card as soon as i decide to buy the game . That's pretty messed up right there , especially when i see that the Geforce6800U has pretty low performance with 8x AA .

Forget about this fucking game cause the situation still sux no matter how i look at it . The game is not good enough to deserve any hardware upgrades . That's the bottom line . For now , at least .

Things that are important for me is performance with high AA enabled and the lighting precision . Lighting precision is crap and curent hardware is weak for 8x AA or 16x AA . If i can find a way to solve these things it's worth it to buy the game and start modding . That still doesn't change the fact that i don't like the game in it's original form but modding should more than make up for that .

Single player is weak , linear , borring nothing in there for me . I never played it really just loaded some maps using the console and explored a bit in god mode to see what's possible . Such of waste of effort and time they've put into that single player . And the multiplayer ? complete crap ....

And about P2P , you might get some garbage software for free and think it's great but i lost 3 hard-drives (hard drive failures) in less than a month for what ? To lose $300 worth of hard-drives for some worthless garbage software that you never use is that a good deal ? I don't think so .... there is more than one way of paying for stuff .... some people just don't know it yet ....

And remember , you are not better than me and vice-versa .... Cause that's how all this started .... You are the PIRATE the HACKER the CRIMINAL ! lol Enjoy ! If you can ....