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#1 10 years ago

Yeah, I know... Here's a newb to the forums (I should say that I've kept my eye on here for years, but never bothered to register) and the newb is posting a thread that's topic has already been beaten down into the grown several times. So... Here is goes again. :p

I've re-read some of the threads that are about home brew EF3. For a moment there, it appeared that it actually was going to happen, but didn't work out in the long run. Now I'm not a game designer in any way, but I am talented for the administrative side of things (organizing projects, media, web design, etc.). This seems childish to say this, but I believe that we can put out our own EF3!

Once again, I'm childish to say this but, there has to be some people out there that have this knowledge and expertise to make this thing happen? So if you have a passion for the Elite Force (heck, a passion for any Star Trek game is awesome) feel free to e-mail me or IM me at image.png. Right now, I'm open to anyone that wants to join this project. If you have any, I would appreciate to know what qualifications you have (ie game design, etc.).

Thanks for listening to me everyone!




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#2 10 years ago

I have knowledge of the games working. But I do not believe this will ever happen. But if you can get a big name from the community to sign on we'll see about how I could help.




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#3 10 years ago

Thanks data for your offer. It would be nice to get some of the "big guys" here, but I'm not going to bug them. I'm sure they'll see this thread, and if it interests them, then they'll take action. Otherwise, no point in me annoying.




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#4 10 years ago

Activision holds the rights to the Elite Force series, it is their creation and their property. With Bethesda holding the current Star Trek gaming licence; the chances of there being another Elite Force or even another Armada, are very slim.




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#5 10 years ago

I knew Activision lost the rights. I'm surprised to learn that Bethesda still has them. I thought I heard they were going to loose them.

Anyway, I know someone holds the license to the game... So that's why I'm posting here in the first place... We all know there's nearly 100% chance of their not being another EF sequel. So that's why I would like to get a team together and work on this. Of course, to protect our butts, we would have to change a few things in order to keep Paramount from suiing.




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#6 10 years ago
AdmiralHocking;4760565Activision holds the rights to the Elite Force series, it is their creation and their property. With Bethesda holding the current Star Trek gaming licence; the chances of there being another Elite Force or even another Armada, are very slim.

It doesn't matter if you make a modification for ef1 or ef2, you should know that. The ultimate patch was a attempt top bring ef1 to ef2, that's what you guys seam to like. @soundsofchewelah If you can make it congrats, but you have to do much more than just opening up a thread and expecting anyone to bite. To many projects failed, if you want to get the right crew you need to make decisions and have something at your hands.

Over 30 Projects in ef2 have been started and never ended, and I'm talking about big projects. How ever, it's most possible for you to get ppl to work on the stvef engine, but it's pretty unlikly that you can assamble a crew for stef2.

The problem is that you shoudl make a far better looking game as stvef is to make a sucessfull ef3, so you should use something wich looks like ef2 or even better. Sorry to deillusionate you but I've been to long arround here to knwo how lazzy the ppl are, only a few have taken the future of the game in thair hands by modding and supporting the community. If you want to change something you have to get the code done your self.

If you wana make a good ef3 you should try to mod on engines of quake4 or crysis(not doom 3 cuz it's not as smoth as quake4 is), even if the crysis netcode sucked (does it still suck ?). Good luck anyway.




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#7 10 years ago

Got an answer from two of the big names of the community and sadly I agree with them. I wish it could happen but it is extrememly unlikely. Maybe one day if a good company gets the license again it will happen but until then all we can do is wait :(.




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#8 10 years ago

Chrissstrahl;4760686It doesn't matter if you make a modification for ef1 or ef2, you should know that. The ultimate patch was a attempt top bring ef1 to ef2, that's what you guys seam to like.[/quote]

Indeed, but I got the impression he/she was talking about an entirely new game, rather than a modification.

Chrissstrahl;4760686If you wana make a good ef3 you should try to mod on engines of quake4 or crysis(not doom 3 cuz it's not as smoth as quake4 is), even if the crysis netcode sucked (does it still suck ?).

I'm not sure what you mean with 'netcode,' but the Crysis engine is rather badly optimised and put together in general. The Dunia Engine (Far Cry 2) for example, while offering many of the same features, is by far more stable.

Personally however, I believe the Source engine would be the way to go should another Star Trek FPS be made. Not only boasting decent graphics and physics, the potential for modification is abolsutely massive.

[quote=data079;4760728]Maybe one day if a good company gets the license again it will happen but until then all we can do is wait :(.

The chances of there ever being an 'Elite Force' again are slimmer than an anorexic chipmunk. That said though, it's always possible to use the same design principle with a different name.

Take Star Trek Legacy for example, unless I'm misinformed, that was originally planned as Star Trek Armada 3.




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AdmiralHocking;4760766 Star Trek Legacy for example, unless I'm misinformed, that was originally planned as Star Trek Armada 3.

Yes it was.

Bethesda haven't lost the Star Trek Gaming License, that is just some BS people are spreading around because Activision have stated a desire to get back into Trek Gaming.. Huh, very coincidental isn't it? They want to get back into Trek Gaming around the same time that a major Star Trek blockbuster is about to be released, thats Activision down to the ground.

If you contact Bethesda they are actually cool people who will speak with you about it, in fact in Legacy they are even promoting mods such as Aftermath. Activision never did anything for the mod communities. At least with Bethesda there is a chance of new trek games. We won't get Armada 3 or EF 3 but it is possilbe to get a new FPS or RTS trek game. Personally I would prefer a Star Trek game based on the Mass Effect Engine. Sometime Griffin is trying to replicate with Star Trek Freelance




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#10 10 years ago
IKS;4760957Personally I would prefer a Star Trek game based on the Mass Effect Engine.

That's the Unreal 3 Engine with a few tweaks.

I'd really rather Bethesda don't turn around and start using these so called next generation engines. There are older ones that are capable of looking just as pretty (or rather more realistic, as opposed to Engine Wars: Attack of the Metallic Shaders) and running one hell of a lot better.