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Captain Ransom

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#1 14 years ago

Elite Force 1 and 2 are meant to be based on Voyager, especially the Borg level in EF2 which is based on "Endgame". So, how come Chell is shown as a Starfleet ensign after Voyager gets home? In the Voyager series, he was a crewman and a former Maquis. It seems highly unlikely that a Maquis (whether or not the Maquis existed any more), would be allowed at Starfleet Headquarters. Also, in EF1 Chell is a Crewman, and in EF2 he is an Ensign. A non-commissioned officer can't be promoted to an officer rank without going to the academy.




Alexraptor

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#2 14 years ago

i dont agree. Chell was one of several former maquis that was drilled by Tuvok, Tuvok of course have been a instructor at SF academy. Also EF1 is set somewhere between the episodes "30 days" and "Unimatrix 0" (because in EF1 paris is a ensign, and in 30 Days tom gets demoted to ensign and in Unimatrix 0 he is reinstated as lieutenant)

so we have no idea if chell was promoted or not on voyager, wich is quite possible. chell was seen in "Learning Curve" somewhere in the 1st or 2nd season, and mentioned once again in Endgame.




EXiT

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#3 14 years ago

EF2 is meant to based on Enterprise. The first level "Endgame" is just meant as a transition from EF1's Voyager to EF2's Enterprise. After Voyager gets home, the Hazard team is all split up and it is quite likely that some of them were promoted (like Munro teaching at the Academy).

Who knows though :)

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THE_VIP

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#4 14 years ago

promotions are for sure, but i would agree with Ransom: Starfleet is based on military rules and military rules are strict. i don't think Starfleet would do things like "ah, ok". There are strict procedures to follow. even if somebody has to be rewarded for what he/she has done, full strict reviews have to be done first. i think it is more likely that Starfleet would arrest the ex-Maquises instead of letting them stay in Starfleet even if they helped Voyager.




PsyWarrior

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#5 14 years ago

Remember: Janeway is an Admiral now. She wields tremendous influence, especially after bringing Voyager home (7 years, as opposed to the predicted 60 odd). She also pretty much crippled the Borg collective. If she put forward glowing references for the marquee crewmen, people will listen. I doubt that they would be allowed straight back into starfleet. They would probably have to go through some kind of fast-track training course, or at least some kind of test or exam (as it could be argued that they did their training in the Delta Quadrant. I think 7 years on a starfleet vessel, and maybe 4 or 5 in the Hazard Team is pretty good training). And to paraphrase something I read in one of the technical manuals, Simulations on the holodeck can count as real field experiance towards promotion. So what does real, non-holodeck field experience on an elite security force count for? And besides, Starfleet isn't as inflexable as some military institutions. I don't think that they would be as unwise as to court-martial people who have served as starfleet officers for seven years, and who have recieved starfleet training 'on the job'. I do agree that there would be some manner of training or examination before they would be allowed into Starfleet as full officers though. -Supr. Cmdr. PsyWarrior EDIT: One more thing. Lt. Munro was not promoted. He was given the rank of Lt. at the end of EF1, and was transferred to the post of acadamy professor, not promoted. Personally, I think that he should have been promoted to Lt. Cmdr. when he transferred to the Enterprise to become Hazard Team CO, Telsia should have been promoted to Lt. (JG) when she became security chief on the Dallas. Tuvok should have been a full Commander by the time of EF2 (after all, Janeway got all the way to admiral). That would make much more sense.




javadlux

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#6 14 years ago

Sorry to kind of revive this old topic, but in ST Voyager Homecoming and ST Voyager Farther Shore, we see that since manpower is in short supply since the war with the Dominion, Starfleet is pardoning all Maquis and offering them starfleet commisions.. just thought i would poin that out :) -javadlux




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#7 14 years ago

Hey dudes, let the people of paramount pictures do their work, chell is in ef2, so what? he's ok...and part of hazard team so no sh*t about his rank etc etc, he's promoted blablabla, just like janeway.