15th September 2004
By request of Speer, a new Vs. thread has been created. There are rules, though.
1. This thread stays here. Please don't send reported posts to me about moving it. It belongs equally in the Star Trek and Star Wars forums. If another staff moves the thread, I will respect their decision or discuss it with them.
2. No flaming, period. This is a general forum rule so it should be easy to follow. If there is repeated flaming in this thread, it will be closed without a chance of re-opening.
Now. Have fun.
The Carbon Comrade
14th July 2004
I don't see how anyone can compare Star Trek to Star Wars, just as people cannot compare Stargate to Battlestar Galactica, or Andromeda to Farscape. These are all very different shows, all of which serve as very different sources of entertainment. Would a Galaxy Class Starships be able to take on (and out) a Star Destroyer? How can anyone in their own right answer that question? Some questions would have obvious answers. A Klingon with a Batleth vs a Jedi with a Lightsabre. I think my money would go on the Jedi. But to ask how starships would fare is rather absurd. On a thought, a single Galaxy vs a single Star Destroyer, I would probably give the win to the Star Destroyer. Why you ask? It is quite simple really, the Star Destroyer is considerably larger, and can launch multiple Fighters. Whilst Fighters might not be much use, they can still get in the way. But then we'd up the scale a bit... From the shows and movies, we know that what is in Star Trek is more. In this sense, I mean when we see a Fleet in Star Trek, they're big. When we see a Fleet in Star Wars, they aren't as big. Thus a Fleet vs Fleet Trek vs Wars, I would have to give that win to Trek. Again, this is just looking at this scenario very loosely. People can comment, argue and debate this topic all that they want. At the end of the day, nobody is actually 'right' or 'wrong'. It is all a matter of opinion, and everyone who thinks about the topic is going to choose a side, and will stick with it. Star Trek Fans are obviously going to side with Star Trek. Star Wars Fans are obviously going to side with Star Trek. Those who like both equally will either call it a draw, or would not get involved. Those that dislike both will either not make themselves known, or will simply pop in to cause trouble, or baffle everyone with scientific nonscense which is irrelivant (because half of the power / weapons etc on Trek / Wars isn't real). So yeah, the overall point of this... debate is pointless as regardless of what one may think, there is no actual winner because, believe it or not... none of this is real. ;)
A new sense of nuisance.
8th December 2003
Yes, none of them wins because they both are equally awesome and memorial!
7th December 2003
I guess it depends what situation exactly you are talking about. In a war between Empire and Federation the Empire would probably win because in a war of attrition they'd have the benefit of controlling a larger area. In a ship-to-ship fight Star Trek might win because their technology is more sophisticated and actually based on science fiction while Star Wars technology is based on concepts used during WWII.
The Real Awesome
20th April 2007
Tycoon;4195746So yeah, the overall point of this... debate is pointless as regardless of what one may think, there is no actual winner because, believe it or not... none of this is real. ;)
Very well said, it IS pointless.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
The Empire would win. I can make this statement because of the most powerful piece of technology the Empire has on their side, the hyperdrive. Pretty much regardless of whether the Federation could win on an individual ship level it would never come down to that sort of fight. The Millennium Falcon could cross the galaxy in the blink of an eye, supposedly. Even if military starships are somewhat slower than the Falcon by a factor of four or five you could still lay a fleet off outside the Galaxy’s vertical axis in intergalactic space and strike at Federation worlds as and when you pleased. They'd never have time to concentrate forces to meet you. Regardless of how good the federation is or is not in ship to ship combat by the time they got to a planet it would all be over. The Federation simply lacks the mobility to fight the sort of war we’re talking about.
but the federation has the warpdrive. once you punch that thing past warp 9 you start tearing holes in the space time continuum. and hell theres also that borg teck:borg: they stole at the end of voyager that makes the warp look like nothing
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
How clumsy. We've seen federation ships go past warp nine without tearing any large holes in subspace. Old style Federation warp drives degrade subspace, slowly I might add and in a way that actually harms their own mode of travel. They later fixed the problem. And they didn't steal any Borg tech at the end of voyager, they got given some tech by Future Janeway none of which was propulsional in nature.
k got me there though it has been a couple of years since ive seen voyager, but since it's star trek in general you have to throw the borg into the equation. they have ready access to that wormhole teck and just think about when they start assimilating the empire.