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#1 11 years ago

In terminator one we see an advanced terminator beyound anything that is seen in terminator 3 at the skynet research center.

In t-2 it is said that they would have never thought of such amazing technology...suggesting that we were far away from it...then in t-3 when john connor is grow up and about to lead the resistance we have realy shitty terminators. By this time of T-3 for it to be at all realisitc a terminator endo-skeletion beta model would have been necessary. Not these shity as machine gun retarded tredded things.

There is no way that a machine gun armed retarded robot could make a more advanced terminator like Arnold in t-one or 2...it has no arms and it is highly uncapable of making a terminator as arnold there for T-3 messes up the series because the techonology shown is not realistic for there to be such an evolution amongst machines to create such terminators as arnold.

T-3 sound have had atleast a beta form of the terminator endo-skeletion

There for it is a whole because it would be impossible for these stupid machines to create better terminators...

It would in my opinion take far too long for them to evolve and to make such advanced and brillant things as a t-1000 or an Arnold model.




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#2 11 years ago

You've missed a much larger hole that doesn't even consider T3:

-Skynet created the original Terminator, which in 2029 was sent back to 1984 to kill blah blah blah. We all know the plot. -At the end of the first movie, the T-800 is itself terminated, but not obliterated. Enough is left over for Cyberdyne to begin work on advanced projects they never would've been able to conceive before. -Some years later, a T-800 reprogrammed by John Conner is sent back in time to save himself. Or something. This of course is T2.

Here's the kicker: at the end of T2 the arm & CPU left over at the end of The Terminator are stolen and destroyed. Without these, Cyberdyne wouldn't be able to continue developing Skynet, becoming self-aware and waging cybernetic armageddon against mankind. Backup data? Probably, except for that bit about Cyberdyne's lab being detonated by Miles Dyson.

So how in the hell could Skynet have ever sent the first T-800 back to 1984, where it would be defeated and parts of it recovered, providing the inspiration for the project that would become Skynet?




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#3 11 years ago

C38368;3526130You've missed a much larger hole that doesn't even consider T3:

-Skynet created the original Terminator, which in 2029 was sent back to 1984 to kill blah blah blah. We all know the plot. -At the end of the first movie, the T-800 is itself terminated, but not obliterated. Enough is left over for Cyberdyne to begin work on advanced projects they never would've been able to conceive before. -Some years later, a T-800 reprogrammed by John Conner is sent back in time to save himself. Or something. This of course is T2.

Here's the kicker: at the end of T2 the arm & CPU left over at the end of The Terminator are stolen and destroyed. Without these, Cyberdyne wouldn't be able to continue developing Skynet, becoming self-aware and waging cybernetic armageddon against mankind. Backup data? Probably, except for that bit about Cyberdyne's lab being detonated by Miles Dyson.

So how in the hell could Skynet have ever sent the first T-800 back to 1984, where it would be defeated and parts of it recovered, providing the inspiration for the project that would become Skynet?

Ive considered the back up data. Its a far stretch but...The computer at his home wasnt necessarly destroyed 100 percent. It is possible that the components of the computer that held research data on it were still intact.




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#4 11 years ago

Here's my conundrum:

Skynet's very existance depended on a robot from the future, a robot who's very existance depended upon skynet existing beforehand. So how in the hell does that work?

That would be similar to your having to travel back in time to impregnate your mother so that you could be born. How could you have existed in the first place? (sorry about the whole inbreeding reference)

Now that I reread the post above, I think I may have just repeated what C38368 just said. :lol:




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#5 11 years ago

Are you arguing how the machines in t3 came to exist or why the machines were the ones with treads?




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#6 11 years ago

Oblivious;3526173Here's my conundrum:

Skynet's very existance depended on a robot from the future, a robot who's very existance depended upon skynet existing beforehand. So how in the hell does that work?

That would be similar to your having to travel back in time to impregnate your mother so that you could be born. How could you have existed in the first place? (sorry about the whole inbreeding reference)

Now that I reread the post above, I think I may have just repeated what C38368 just said. :lol:

Which is sort of what I meant to say...

Then again, without the chip it could be possible to make the shitty robots as seen in t-3 and to go from there in technology and to one day advance back to the chip.

The chip now destroyed delays judgement day ....and only holds back technology that is years a way.....

Or does it still not work ?




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#7 11 years ago

Its a film it doesn't have to make sense only to entertain you, like shakespeares The merchant of venice, in that the prince of arabia or where ever isn't allowed to marry again but how is Portia going to know? she isn't its a play who cares.




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#8 11 years ago

Oblivious;3526173Here's my conundrum:

Skynet's very existance depended on a robot from the future, a robot who's very existance depended upon skynet existing beforehand. So how in the hell does that work?

That would be similar to your having to travel back in time to impregnate your mother so that you could be born. How could you have existed in the first place? (sorry about the whole inbreeding reference)

Now that I reread the post above, I think I may have just repeated what C38368 just said. :lol:

Nah, you've just created the causality loop. I broke it ;)

Here's how it works:

IF in the year 2029 a Terminator is send to 1984 to kill John Connor AND in 1984 that Terminator is stopped THEN John Connor survives and can become a pest for Skynet AND the technology exists in 1984 to begin development on Skynet, ELSE break loop. END

But in T2, the arm & chip that are used (eventually--functional development hasn't started yet and there's no way that a single PC at that point in time could've held all the data) to create what would become Skynet are destroyed. Therefore, no Skynet. No T-800. No Terminator the movie.




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#9 11 years ago

Alright I think what alot of people are getting caught up on is that Skynet needed the chip and technology to be created. It didn't, that chip simply was developed many many years later than it would have been had they not had it, so it would allow Skynet to skip a few generations of terminator designs and just start with the T800. So it would speed things up by a couple decades. In T2 their research had been sped up so that they were just a couple of years from creating Skynet, Connor would be in his late teens (17-19) when the war started; should the research not have been destroyed in T2.

T1 Attempt- Fails in mission: Speeds up Skynet research by 10-20 years, speeds up Connor training 4 years T2 Attempt- Fails in mission: Slows down skynet research by 10-15 years, speeds up Connor training 10 years T3 Attempt- Fails in Mission: Skynet gets an early awakening with help from the T-X which launches a virus that takes controle of early prototypes and gives them basic skynet instructions, forcively jump starting the war 5-10 years ahead of sechdule, Connor survives and begins the war effort