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Flash525

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#1 10 years ago

Here, I am talking about those films that are usually given the intention to carry on, but don't. These films are generally based on a book, yet even so, don't get enough good reviews and suchlike, that they don't find themselves complete.. Two films I've watched recently have seen this. Eragon, and The Golden Compass. Both of these films I thought were pretty good, both were based on a book, and both are suppose to be three-parters, yet we've only got the first instalment, and it looks to be it. Neither of these two films got that many good blockbuster hits, thus the chance they'll continue is pretty slim. The Lord of the Rings - another film that was based upon a book, yet at the same time, was constructed differently. Instead of producing one film / book, and then producing the second and third depending upon how the first went, they produced the lot, and showed them at the cinema three-years apart. Both Eragon and the Golden Compass have been left on very annoying cliffhanger endings. This has to be one of my pet hates, a film, or TV show that ends on a cliffhanger. I'm not talking so much about an episode of a show, but rather, a show, in its last ever episode, that is left with a cliffhanger (such as the cancelled show of Invasion). What would have been idea for Eragon and The Golden Compass (along with many others) would have been to shoot all three stories, and release them like they did with Lord of the Rings, or 'finalise' the single film. Instead, we are left with incomplete productions. Anyone else annoyed with this?




Oblivious

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#2 10 years ago

I can understand frustration with that.

Don't forget though, that filming all 3 LOTR films at once was extremely risky. Even though it was ultimately a cheaper way to do it then doing them separately, it was still a really costly single endeavor for New Line to get on board with.

Besides that, Fellowship was wildly more popular than the two initial films you mentioned, so even had Fellowship been shot on it's own, the sequels would have been an absolute lock.

Has it been confirmed that no sequels will be made to them? Did they both lose money?

The flip side of this topic is films which shouldn't be have sequels yet they do, typically out of sheer greed, not because there's some part of the story yet to be told. The Matrix for instance, was perfectly fine on it's own. Reloaded was so-so, and Revolutions was horrible. I'd like to forget that they ever made that rubbish.




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#3 10 years ago

I can't say I've really given it any thought, nor can I recall having seen a movie at all recently that left one wanting a sequel (the only example I can think of, Blade Runner, stands -far- stronger as it ends, with two major questions hanging). The bigger problem I have with cinema, as pointed out by Oblivious, are films that get sequels they don't deserve. The Star Trek franchise is another example of this.




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#4 10 years ago
Oblivious;4393579Don't forget though, that filming all 3 LOTR films at once was extremely risky. Even though it was ultimately a cheaper way to do it then doing them separately, it was still a really costly single endeavor for New Line to get on board with.[/quote]This much is true. Could have gone really bad for them, had the first film not worked.
Oblivious;4393579Has it been confirmed that no sequels will be made to them? Did they both lose money?[/quote]Well, I know there are no plans to follow up the Eragon series, that much is certian. I've read though, that the producers and suchlike of the Goldan Compass wish to complete that story.
Oblivious;4393579The flip side of this topic is films which shouldn't be have sequels yet they do, typically out of sheer greed, not because there's some part of the story yet to be told. The Matrix for instance, was perfectly fine on it's own. Reloaded was so-so, and Revolutions was horrible. I'd like to forget that they ever made that rubbish.
The matrix was good. Though with Reloaded, you needed Revolutions to finish off the story. One film (whilst good) that I didn't think needed anymore, was PotC (Pirates of the Caribbean). The original was a classic, and was something completely different. Then they had to go and put two more long-winded films on top of that idea, which I thought spoilt it. Don't get me wrong, the films weren't bad, but they weren't really needed.. Same goes for Die Hard, Rambo and Rocky (and Indiana Jones). Them lot have had their run, why try to continue with them? [quote=C38368;4394097]I can't say I've really given it any thought, nor can I recall having seen a movie at all recently that left one wanting a sequel (the only example I can think of, Blade Runner, stands -far- stronger as it ends, with two major questions hanging).
True enough. [quote=C38368;4394097]The bigger problem I have with cinema, as pointed out by Oblivious, are films that get sequels they don't deserve. The Star Trek franchise is another example of this.

You cannot say that about Star Trek :eek: Granted some of the films were crap (such as The Final Frontier), but even so, it is Trek. Shame on you for saying such a thing =p




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#5 10 years ago

Total Recall was influenced by an old Philip Dick novel. The ending was really up for interpretation, but the drafts for a second film involved the main hero solving crime with 3 pre-cogs. That was later recycled into Minority Report (another Dick-influenced movie).

There was also the Dune movie. First one alienated the fans and common movie goers, so there never was any motivation by the studio to adapt the other Dune novels. The TV mini-series on Sci-Fi channel did adapt up to the third novel though. Unfortunately this was before hits like Battlestar and there was very little funding for nice CGI...

There are a few more I"ll probably remember.




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#6 10 years ago

LOL um has anyone heard of a movie called Bloodrayne and oh yes they made a sequel Bloodrayne 2. And i know there's people out there that would say, omg that's my favorite movie ever, but NO the movie sucked and the sequel probably sucked even more.




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#7 10 years ago

There was another movie I remember now- League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It was poorly received, but the ending of that movie strongly hinted at a sequel.




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Flash525

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#9 10 years ago
Commissar MercZ;4396791There was another movie I remember now- League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It was poorly received, but the ending of that movie strongly hinted at a sequel.

To be fair, that movie isn't getting a sequel. It has been several years now since that film was released. We've seen nothing of it since then. I thought it was an 'ok' movie though... Nothing special, though wasn't too bad. I doubt very much we're getting a sequel though, even it one was hinted.




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#10 10 years ago
Tycoon;4398484To be fair, that movie isn't getting a sequel. It has been several years now since that film was released. We've seen nothing of it since then. I thought it was an 'ok' movie though... Nothing special, though wasn't too bad. I doubt very much we're getting a sequel though, even it one was hinted.

I never said they would get one, I just said the writers seemed like they would've gone for a sequel if it was well received. It's always an option for any film.




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