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Lady Bob

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#11 16 years ago
Originally posted by HIGGYBABY I'm not in a Ranger Regiment, but I'm Ranger qualified. Went thru Ranger School March 2001. Im in the 101st ABN Div Fort Campbell, KY. Taking 30 days leave and messing around with this game.

Since you're in the famous 101st, how good is is the Airborne side of this simulation? Is the 250' tower drop harder in real life? Don't you guys carry sidearms as well as your main rifle into drops? And one more question, how fast are you free-falling and then how fast are you going after your chute has deployed before flaring for touchdown?

P.S.: Have you lost any height? :D




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#12 16 years ago

well i can anwser your question seeing as how i was airborne when i was active duty(i was in the 82nd airborne).first of all no we didnt carry sidearms into jumps.(with the exception of officers).also the speed in which you hit the ground was the same as if you were to jump from a 2 story building without a chute.also they closed down the 250 ft jump towers when i was in cause there were to many accidents with them.it may have changed since.and no i didnt lose any height.lol




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#13 16 years ago

Well i am a Ranger (i am on leave to play this game lol):lol: and it is no easy shit.... Training camp is really hard not to mention u have to go threw 2 "hellweeks" regular US Army boot camp and Ranger school boot camp i man this is no easy task... I man yes this is easier then SEAL training but it is pretty damb hard. Now u will have to do alot of running like run a mile w/ a 40 lbs ruksack in under 7 minutes.... SO my advise to u is START PRACTICING!!!!!!!!

WANT MORE INFO ON WHAT I AND THOSE OTHER PPL DO: go to http://www.goarmy.com

:smokin: :fistpunch: HOLLA BACK YUNGIN




Lady Bob

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#14 16 years ago

So how money do you guys make being in the Airborne and Rangers? Entry rank. And do ya get to keep anything after you retire? Like 'accidentaly misplacing' an M16. ;)




HIGGYBABY

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#15 16 years ago

When I went through Ranger, we jumped 5 times. Jumped in each phase and jumped out of Benning and back into Benning. I only have eleven jumps total. You jump with EVERYTHING you need to conduct your patrol. Even if you're the m240 gunner/ tripod guy/ ammo bearer, which makes for a very hard landing (I know). All you do is do your PLF, lay on the ground for a second, wiggle your toes and fingers, then roll over and put your weapon into operation and sneak off the drop zone. Secondly, screw the SEALS. Those mofrackys go home on the weekends from SEAL school; Ranger School is a 68 day plus 24/7 suck-fest. The two SEAL guys in my class (06-01) got either injured or dropped out. We dont jump in the 101st, we Air Assault/rappel/fast rope out of helicopters. AA would be even better if it had an Air Assault or fast rope ability (from a 101st guys point of view). Also, the 101st goes first, not the 82nd. The 82nd is picking up where we left off in Afghanistan because there are bigger things coming up for the 101st. The 82nd knows this, and it pisses them off. They didn't jump into afghanistan, they flew in on transpo aircraft. The 101st actually conducted all missions by Air Assault. Some of the biggest since OP Desert Storm. My experience with AA on-line is that it is being under-utilized. Almost all the players go off and do there own thing just like in Counter-Strike (which is fun, but isn't how Americas Army fights). This game has become another Counter-Strike. It has great built in features where you could follow your Patrol Leader, USE arm and hand signals, conduct a leaders recon, and move and fight as a fire team etc. etc. You can get that by playing on a LAN with some buddies knowledgeable about patrolling (the Ranger Handbook and FM 7-8 are a start). But my gut feeling is the majority just blow-off alot of these built in features and are say "dude, its just like counter-strike! Awesome!"




Lady Bob

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#16 16 years ago

Ah yes, good ol military rivalry! So what exactly is a "mofracky" anyway? A mother f'er? Is Air Assualting any different than flying out the choppers on ropes? I bet there there was some tough shit (can we curse here?) for those guys fighting in afghanistan. Hearing about some of it on the news, like the sieges, alamo type stands by Taliban. Aint no respawn for those guys who died :( (who cares about the taliban dead)

Also, what have the SEALS done lately? I don't expect details, just wanna know if they're still doing something and not sitting on their asses. And are you allowed to give out any info and what it is you said is planned for the 101st? :eek:

I agree that AA is underutilized. 90% of the time it's true in internet games, though it's very fun to randomly be able to play with ppl who know what the hell they're doing and the teamplay becomes instantly predictable. Like we read each other's minds and know each others little styles right away. For things like patrolling areas, the game's missions need to double the time limit. A lot of ppl are just asses too. Like when a piece of shrapnel from a nade bounces wrong and hits them and your name pops up that you attacked them. They get all pisses off even though an apology is given and they go on a, short lived, TK fest. I'd like to see them try that crap in the real world army, they'd prolly be shot in the limbs or killed right away. Staying with the CS mindset thing, some ppl are too dumb to remember that they are on a team. So when they see some flicker of movement they right away start lobbing all their nades at that movement, which ends up being a team mate most the time. A lot of games are lost too because of no team communication, just a buncha slow minded John Rambo's that get themselves killed. Most ppl also just ignore the SSG and SGT's in games. But a good reason for that is because there's no real rank system, it's all just random ranking which is total crap. One minute I'm sniping or gettin kills off my M203, game ends, then I have a basic M16A2! WTF!? Ends up I'm now SSG, then next game I'm back to PVT even after doing well and not dying.

This is the only game where I've seriously thought about joining a clan long term, cus to reap all the benefits we have to be in clans for this game, or do all LAN games.




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#17 16 years ago

Don't do it for the money. One doesn't join any branch of service for the money. Special duty pay and other hardship allotments will still not compare. While things are getting better for service members, it still isn't uncommon for US military personal to be receiving food stamps. There is military housing that would under normal circumstances have been condemned and proclaimed hazardous were it not still occupied by families.

Don't do it for the fame. Unless you don't care to see your own fame, that is. Most who go for glory are poor troops anyway; they are too interested in making themselves big instead of working with the team. Ninety percent of heroes are those people who do their job and don't care about anything else. Medal of honor winners rarely get to see what they won, their bodies are sent home in caskets. Their families and loved ones are the ones who get them medals, along with a letter from a commander or squad leader letting them know how well their son fought.

Don’t do it because it is cool. One you have a game. One you have real life. They are two totally different things, with very little in common. You shouldn’t base your idea of military life on what you see in video games and on the silver screen. These are the same mediums in which great warships on fire in the twilight shores of Orion and where we see ancient kingdoms torn asunder by the powers of long dead magics. If you want a media presentation of the military try something the likes of Full Metal Jacket and remember that this was what they were able to show you on screen.

Military operations are becoming more and more prevalent these days. Global power and Global reach is the focus. The United States Military is deploying people all across the world. Expect not to see your family for periods of three, six, nine or more months at a time. And expect them to worry whether or not you are going to come home alive. Enjoy living in tents and working with equipment that has been outdated several times over. It will take congress wont hesitate to give themselves a 25% bonus, but will take months debating whether or not to take a look at (not necessarily even doing so) giving the military more funding (this will also include your basic pay check). You wont be living in great conditions, just joining, don’t expect privacy either. Expect, even out of basic training, gang showers, open bay bunk sleeping conditions or at least shared rooms and inspections.

Remember it is not a walk in the park, it is not a three month vacation to a fantasy island. It is a reality; bold, bloody and true. If you want to leave the ones you love behind for a year to go live in tent city and fight a war in a country several thousand miles away from anywhere you’ve ever been. To suffer hardships and persecution because of what you represent, to be a target for every individual that hates America. To do this all because you believe in what we fight for and what we stand for.

It is for pride, for country. To let you know you are doing something and are apart of something greater than any one person can ever be. It is for no one else but you. That should go for the man next to you as well. Not the money. Not for the fame. Not to impress people and not because it is the easy thing to do.




Lady Bob

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#18 16 years ago

Yep, just look at veterans of wars to see what it can do to you emotionally and physically. Vietnam vets have taken the worst of it. One of my bosses where I work was in the Green Berets and specialized in hand to hand combat. He's been shot 10 times, twice in the head, has a metal plate in his head, a limp in 1 leg, cancer, sometimes seems like he's permanently pissed off at everything and everyone, and works his ass off. He's been fighting/training others in places like Korea, Vietnam, Panama, and who knows where else. He's got some truly sickening stories of things he's done himself to other humans, and things he's seen happen. And those must be the purty stories cus there's plenty more he will never open up to or even start talking about. His favorite weapon of choice was a piano string (he calls it). So let your imagination go on what someone who kills silently in the night would do with a very thin strand of wire. My uncle has been in the Air Force, he was sent back into active after 9/11 and is almost done with active (out on Diego Garcia island). There's been many occasion where he could hardly find enough money to pay for basic things for his family. Even so he's got plenty of debt. So for the guy who started this thread, make sure you think hard before joining. Hell, you could die in training. I knew (not personally) someone from high school who just joined the Navy, cus his dad was in it, and he drowned in a hotel swimming pool waiting for his recruiter to take him to wherever they were going. Yeah you can laugh, sad to admit but in an ironic way it's funny, but still it's sad that it happened. Just think of all the horble things you can about military life and wars, then decide if you still think the pride and duty to country is worth the risk to you.




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