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Budd9832

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#1 15 years ago

Well i havnt been aa files in a while but i though of a good idea. Well the snipers always complain of having a pistol want aa give em a m16. I say this cause real snipers dont just walk around w/ a bolt action rifle cause thaey need some thing to defend them selves.




!moof

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#2 15 years ago
Budd9832Well i havnt been aa files in a while but i though of a good idea. Well the snipers always complain of having a pistol want aa give em a m16. I say this cause real snipers dont just walk around w/ a bolt action rifle cause thaey need some thing to defend them selves.

Well, I think it's going to be hard to carry that much weight. I mean, sheesh! Besides, it's not realistic.




Bajorek

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#3 15 years ago

Actually, Snipers do walk around with a Bolt-Action Rifle. They have spotters to sit there with them and shoot it up.

I seriouslly wan't to know where everyone gets there bull-shit information from? From movies? From What guys from what?




mEkImIrMe

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#4 15 years ago

From other video games :-P




Major_Winters(FIN)

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#5 15 years ago

Well snipers could remove the scope and use it as an iron sighted then it would work but anyway every soldier has a sidearm and from which day has the Guerrillas start using any kevlar armor. So that Beretta would be good and realistic also because US Army use them, SF guys use their modified Colt .45ACP.

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Pistol, .45 Cal., M1911/M1911A1. John M. Browning designed the M1911 in response to the Army's need for a pistol with greater stopping-power following the Army's experience with close-in combat during the Philippine Insurrection (1899-1901). The M1911A1 model recoil semi-automatic adopted in 1926, was the standard personal defense weapon carried by officers and team leaders of all services during World War I, World War II, and Korea. Production was ended in 1945. The M1911 has a rich military heritage, was very reliable, and the weapon of choice for use in close quarters. It was used up until 1984, when it began to be replaced by the more modern M9 9mm pistol. The M1911A1 .45 cal. pistol is a magazine-fed semi-automatic recoil-operated single-action hand gun. It uses a .45 cal. rimless cartridge in a seven-round magazine. It fires one round each time the trigger is squeezed, once the hammer is cocked by prior action of the slide or thumb. This design is referred to as "single-action". The thumb safety may only be activated once the pistol is cocked.

Pistol, 9mm, M9 Personal Defense Weapon. A semi-automatic, double-action pistol, the M9 is more lethal, lighter, and safer than its predecessors. The M9 is carried by crew-served weapon crewmen and by others who have a personal defense requirement, such as law enforcement personnel and aviators. It replaces the M1911A1 .45 cal. pistol and the .38 cal. revolver.




Major_Winters(FIN)

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#6 15 years ago

Special Operations Handgun Program

In August 1991, Heckler & Koch, Inc. and Colt's Manufacturing Company were awarded contracts with the US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) for the development of an Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS).

USSOCOM directs the activities of some of America's most elite military units, including the Navy SEALs, Air Force Special Operations Wing, and the Army Green Berets, Rangers, and Special Operations Aviation.

The "OHWS" consists of three components: a .45 caliber pistol, a laser aiming module (LAM), and a sound and flash suppressor. In January 1994, the HK system was selected and subsequent Phase II and Phase III contracts were awarded.

The HK Mk 23 Mod 0 and HK Mark 23 .45 ACP pistols provides shooters with match grade accuracy equal to that of the finest custom made handguns and exceed the most stringent operational requirements ever demanded of a combat handgun. The Mk 23/Mark 23 provides this accuracy without the need for hand-fitted parts common in custom-match pistols costing thousands of dollars more. Repair of the Mk23/Mark 23 is reduced to a simple parts exchange.

The HK Mark 23 is a commercial model of the U.S. Government issue Mk 23, MOD 0 Offensive Handgun and is available in limited numbers. Designated the "Mark 23", it is almost identical to the Mk23, MOD 0 pistol used by the Special Operations Command, right down to its threaded barrel. The principal differences are the slide inscriptions (Mark 23 as opposed to MK 23) and a barrel manufactured to SAAMI headspace specifications. Commercial Mark 23 pistols come supplied with 10-round magazines. Military and law enforcement models have 12-round magazines like the Special Operations model.

One of the most thoroughly tested handguns in history, the Mk23/Mark 23 met the most stringent operational and accuracy requirements ever demanded of a combat handgun. Mk 23 pistols achieved match grade accuracy with an average of 1.4 inches extreme spread in 5-round shot groups at 25 meters with service ammunition. Endurance testing demonstrated a service life of over 30,000 rounds of +P ammunition, with an additional 30,000 rounds certified on the slide and frame.

To meet the reliability requirement, the pistol had to demonstrate a minimum of 2,000 mean rounds between stoppages (MRBS) with both M1911 ball and +P ammunition. All pistols exceeded the 2000 MRBS with an average of 6000 MRBS.

In more than 450 accuracy test firings from a precision firing fixture, Mk 23 pistols far exceeded the government requirement, averagin 1.44 inches, with 65 groups of less than one inch. There were four groups of .5 inches, with 5 rounds going through the same hole! This included firing with and without the sound/flash suppressor attached.

Three pistols were tested for accuracy after firing over 30,000 rounds, the specified service life of the pistol, and still met the new pistol accuracy requirement. An innovative design feature, a high temperature rubber O-ring on the barrel that seals the barrel in the slide until unlocking, led to this remarkable achievement. The O-ring lasts beyond 20,000 rounds and can be replaced by the operator without tools in seconds.

To meet operational environmental requirements, the pistol was function tested at +140 and -25 F, exposed to 2 hours of submersion in sea water at 66 feet, placed in surf, salt-fog, sand-dust, mud, icing, unlubricated and fouled environments.

The barrel is threaded to accept accessories such as a flash and sound suppressor and the unique HK polygonal bore profile increases muzzle velocity and service life, reduces bore fouling and eases cleaning.

The Mk23 OWHS specifically includes a suppressor designed by Knight's Armament Company. Suppressed, the Mk23 produces only 132db of noise when fired dry, and a mere 122db when wet, about as loud as a .22 caliber pistol. Additionally, the can acts as an excellent flash suppressor which is essential for quiet sentry removal. The can is about seven and a half inches long, an inch and a half in diameter, and weighs almost a pound. Civilians may own the can but must comply with NFA regulations. Contact your local ATF office for more information, and then contact Knight's Armament Company directly.

Molded into the frame are special accessory grooves for attaching a light or laser aimer. The frame mounted Mk23 decocking lever is separate from the ambidextrous safety lever. It allows the hammer to be lowered quietly and safely from the single action position. When the hammer is down, the ambidextrous frame mounted safety lever is locked in the fire position so that the pistol is always ready for double action operation. When the hammer is "cocked and locked" in single action mode with the safety lever on "safe", the decocker is blocked so that the pistol is always ready for single action operation.

Even with the safety lever engaged, the slide can still be manipulated to load or clear the pistol. The extended slide release lever and the ambidextrous magazine release are easily actuated without adjustment of the firing grip using the firing hand thumb or index finger.

Other notable features include a mechanical recoil reduction system that that reduces recoil forces to the shooter and components of the pistol by as much as 30%, a reinforced polymer frame, a one-piece machined steel slide, and a law encorcement/military capacity of thirteen rounds (12 in the magazine, 1 in the chamber.) The weapon is aimed using either iron sights or an optional laiser aiming component (currently under development.) The iron sights provide a 3-dot sight picture with white or optional self-luminous tritium dots.

The Heckler & Koch Special Operations Handgun is designed to fire a minimum of 30,000 rounds of +P ammunition prior to depot level maintenance. After depot level maintenance, the pistol must have at least 30,000 rounds of additional service life on the slide and frame.

The Mk 23 became the first caliber .45 ACP pistol to enter U.S. military service since the venerable Government Model 1911A1. On May 1, 1996, the first Mk 23 pistols were delivered to the U.S. Special Operations Command for operational deployment. Since December 1996, the civilian version (dubbed Mark 23) has been shipping to HK authorized dealers. Retail price is $1995.00 for civilians and rumored to be around $1600 for law enforcement.As these will be a limited production run, the Mark 23 will surely become a valuable collector's item.

Specifications

Caliber .45 ACP Action type Browning system (modified), linkless Weight (w/empty magazine) 2.30 lbs Weight (w/12 rounds M1911 ball) 3.22 lbs Length 9.65 inches Length (w/suppressor) 16.65 inches Width 1.50 inches Sight Radius 7.76 inches Rifling polygonal bore, right hand twist Trigger pull (S/A) 4.85 lbs Trigger pull (D/A) 12.13 lbs

Maximum effective range 54.70 yards Maximum Range (M1911 ball) 1467 yards

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{E-Z}Tex

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#7 15 years ago

snipers do cary pistols. force recon primary snipers carry an either a m9 or 1911 MEU sidearm, m40a1/m40a3, and an m4. the also cary body armor, knee pags, kevlar, gloves, uniform, ruck, buttpack, and usually a silverthrone vest. secondary snipers (spotter), carries a sidearm and a m16 varient + all the gear. they carry more than an average infantry would carry. i have seen army snipers carry an m9 along with their m24. :mepimp:




{E-Z}Tex

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#8 15 years ago

A quote from Major_Winters(FIN): every soldier has a sidearm your wrong. not every soldier has a sidearm. most of regular infantry do not use sidearms. the automatic rifleman, snipers, and elite forces (special forces, seals, force recon, MEU etc..) use sidearms. few of regular infantry use sidearms.




Fezarella

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#9 15 years ago

Does it matter?!




Smitty025

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#10 15 years ago

no but it always feels good to prove someone wrong. that is a pretty cool gun pic