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PapaBear

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#1 16 years ago

The New Player By: The Old Player To Epic, the various websites, and my fellow gamers:

First, if you are new to online gaming, you are not yet a fellow gamer, and will most likely become another victim of the market. I will hope for you to rise above.

By the time the Original Unreal Tournament arrived, online gaming was old to me. It was in UT and in Q3 that I saw the first signs of what was to come. Things like aimbots were not new, but now we saw them in mass! Soon they were everywhere, made even easier as the more educated began exploiting known issues in UT that Epic flatly ignored.

I am only one of a few players that I know that is still here, and not because I have no life, no job, no friends, no self respect…whatever, and because this is my only outlet for all of my vengeance towards life and humanity. I am still here because I “enjoy playing.” It is “fun” for me; it is entertainment. Also, being competitive, I like to win. However, I do not mind being beaten by the better player.

Now, in our story, with the help of UTPure and several other tools, we were able to keep just ahead of the botters. Then, the next phase began; this was where admins stopped updating to the latest…allowing their team-mates to cheat. They even began supporting and protecting them in doing so. Then more and more, the latest batch of crying, whining ‘what ever the hell comes after the GenY types’, who were there because they had no life, no job, no friends, no self respect…whatever, and because this was there only outlet for all of their vengeance towards life and humanity…they began to show up.

They came complete with the new, now rampant “Winning isn’t everything…it’s the only thing!” attitude that drives these sorry souls to do everything from just becoming complete jerks to botting. They are those players that you can now find on virtually any UT2003 server, with nothing better to do than to do their best to make everyone else in the server miserable. They’re behavior is often worse than their language.

They can smell their own, too. When you go into the server you’ll notice that although they aren’t all of the same clan, they stay together, and will not stray even to balance the teams. They aren’t there because they enjoy the game, or even competition. They are only there to win; beating others is all that they crave. It is all that they understand. If they were a clan warming up for a ladder match, it would make sense.

Oddly enough, you can still find some great players that are there because they enjoy it. But you can’t find many in UT2003. Nope, in spite of the efforts by Epic, etc. to kill off the original UT, that’s where you’ll find them. Great players like Daos from the HiT clan that would rip you a new ass, then give you encouragement, and tell you how much he enjoyed “playing” against you. He was, by the way, the world CTF champion when Epic killed the UT world stats, and did it without the attitude.

This is only one of several reasons that I’m considering giving up multiplayer, online gaming. In my next post, I’ll give you the skinny on UT2003 servers.




PapaBear

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#2 16 years ago

I fear that the only thing that will truly fix anything is for a high enough number of players to adopt the olympic spirit (so to speak).

I was in an (original) UT server about 2 1/2 years ago when I had the great displeasure of absolutely (behindview) identifying a botter. By the time I left as a spectator, and rejoined the server, everyone on BOTH TEAMS was chatting about HIM, and then everyone in the server, including his team mates, began a non-stop assault on the botter till he finally left the server. It made me proud of us all.

Also in UT2003, we have another problem player. He's not a noobe, but he is. Often, they are incredibly talented players..young, with all of that champion desire I had. The first thing wrong is that through ignorance, they accept certain types of cheating. Secondly, and far more serious a problem are the new players with the attitude that if he can get away with it, more power to him. An even worse off-shoot of this is the, "If he's my bud, then whatever he does is cool, and he is beyond reproach from any direction." Right.

Experienced gamers who have seen all of this crap long ago and recognize it in the new and improved form, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE NEW GENERATION THAT NOT ALL LAGGING IS JUST DUE TO A POOR, HONEST, UNFORTUNATE SOUL WITH A BAD CONNECTION! Also, if you can, try and get them to understand how 'professional' lagging helps them and does NOT hinder them! The new generation never seems to notice that in a server where everyone is pinging a 54 - 110, the one guy with a ping ranging from 180 - 245 (seem to be their sweet spot) is always running the flag! Do they not notice that it never seems to hurt this players shot much? Out of ignorance, they think the lagger is a much better player than he is, and they are sharing their glory, their labor with these losers!

While they are out there, there really isn't too much aim-botting going on in UT2003, but my God, I see between 1 - 4 of these laggers a night when I play. First, I notice that no one seems to be able to hit them when they're running, and then I notice that they're always running the freakin flag! Hit F1, and sure a shit, a 183 ping. Funny, but no one else in the server is over 110, and all of us on high speed are in the 30s, 40s and 50s. I verified my example of a 110 ping as being on what he described as a 'totally tweaked out, ass kicking dial-up'. Okay.

Anyway, with a 180+ ping, a decent shot, no trouble hitting anyone else, and being almost impossible to hit (except for straight on), he's the flag man..and their hero. And they have no idea that he isn't one of them.

Fragman{MOK} and an {EIG} player come in and run the hell out of the flag...neither with a ping over 50. They both get killed more than the guy that shames us all.

Pointing out his lagging to the server gets sympathy towards him! They attack because it is pointed out. They don't know, and I for one...I guess that I wish I didn't know either. After all, it has been said that ignorance is bliss...




Mexmadman

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#3 16 years ago

I know where your coming from. Been there, had the displeasure of playing against one of those so called people i have(and quite a few others) rightfully been named "smacktards". Some developers and mod teams are hard on the case of stamping out these misfits of society but alas, it's not working too well. But, the amount of serious and honest gamers out weights the scum of online gaming an as long as that remains, i believe that online gaming will stay and never fade out.

On a lighter note, i do enjoy the satisfaction of either watching those people get banned from servers or owning them (TFC days - wall hacker being thrashed by a group of us "cool peeps") :p

I nearly forgot : :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: @ all cheaters and general assholes who i hope i have the pleasure of owning someday :lol:




NMS169

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#4 15 years ago

I dont play UT, but in SOF2 i have found so many ppl cheating i quit playing becasue of it. Oh i know the punkbuster is supposed to stop that crap, but botters just get around it. I hate that Sh*t So much. I only play BF1942 now because there are very few cheaters. But. I have still seen a few.




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#5 15 years ago

m8 i know what u mean in SOF2 i play it all the Time and see cheaters all the Time it F**Ks with my head i hope soon that there will be a mutiplayer Game that is cheat free hahahha i wish

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