ROE, is it fair? -1 reply

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codathemysterious

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#1 18 years ago

In the Insurgent Camp map, I go to the front room, lob a grenade from the window, the guy behind me, opens the door, runs out, and I get kicked???????

On Pipeline, we had a guy who would wait until 1 min passed, the take out 2-3 of us (his own team), and he never got kicked??????

Now, I understand the ROE and the reasons for it, but sometimes it is just not fair. With the absense of Votekick, I would not autokick for ROE?




Specialist

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#2 18 years ago

I agree the ROE scoring is twitchy at best. I toss a nade in a room and some clown runs in and splaters himself... it shouldn't be held against me. The person to be charged with an ROE violatin should get the benifit of the doubt.




s2ua7

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#3 18 years ago

I think ROE is fair. Though the person who runs in after you lob a nade in a room is pretty stupid. and I think HE should get the ROE. But also in real life, you would have communicated with your teammate and he wouldnt have run in. They are putting Votekick AND idlekick back in with the 1.4 patch. So TKers BEWARE!!




codathemysterious

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#4 18 years ago

I agree with your point about communication, but if he is watching you throw it, .... you have to rely on a certain amount of common sense, which quite a few people do not have.




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#5 18 years ago

Sometimes i will have zero ROE and i will shoot a Teammate by accident and i get kicked off to jail!And i didn't even kill him!




kopatch

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#6 18 years ago

what about those that cut ur line of fire... when u shot with SAW and he just move infront of u some do it to get u kicked which reallllly suck!




s2ua7

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#7 18 years ago

In reality you should always be aware of what you and your teammates are doing. As far as having 0 ROE and going to jail. You prob shot him within 30 sec. of the round starting. That will automatically get you kicked




Jager

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#8 18 years ago

You have to understand that ROE is a balance. You want to kick tkers but you also want to be lenient with accidents. Is it really that big of a deal when you get kicked? Just log back in. Its likely that your honor isnt hurt that much, unless you really are a tker in which case the game will start to punish you. IMO, its worth it to suffer a few kicks in order to be rid of those other idiots.

Anyway, when the guy who splatted himself on your nade whines about your tk, you can always humiliate him by telling everyone that he hes a newb who doesnt pay attention to his teammates. Chances are, after spending 10 boring minutes in spectate, hell be a little more careful about watching the rest of the squad.

I have had a few accidents myself, with nades and SAW fire. I have yet to see my honor drop. As far as Im concerned the system is effective, except for the lack of votekick and idlekick. They should implement a menu based votekick command, along with map switching and other voting funtions for unofficial servers. I cant tell you how many times Ive had to waste 5 minutes explaining how to use the console to some idiot.

"[Jager] Team Messenged: Okay, now press tab and type votekick cheeze_whiz"

Then from the guy I was teaching: "Newb109 Messenged: votekick cheeze_whiz"

"[Jager] Team Messenged: No you idiot, its tab, not talk!"

-Jager




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#9 18 years ago

Oh i didn't know if you shot him within 30 secs it gets you kicked




Lady Bob

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#10 18 years ago

The honor system may be fair, I don't really pay attention, but the in-game ROE is NOT. And you can't make the excuse of better communicating or whatnot. It's an internet game, meaning communication takes a keyboard. Why the hell would we tell our team mates that a nade is being thrown when they're standing there watching me with my arm sticking out like a bafoon?! And being an internet game it means most ppl go willy-nilly solo and do whatever they want, no team work. That's why, even though realistic squad based games are really fun and better than arcadish games, they're really not because most play time is spent on public internet servers.




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