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pvt. Allen

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#1 13 years ago

Well, it looks good, but you should add a lot of vegetation to your map. Also is there any river in Bastone? Is I see from the map you are useing vanilla buildings, go ahead and give a try to those beatiful FH o.67 buildings that can be found in Meues River line and older from Battle of Foy maps.




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#2 13 years ago

Well there is a small river called Wiltz in the north east of Bastogne. And I based the road layout on some maps I've looked at. The town however is ofcourse smaller then the real Bastogne (similer in size as the Berlin map), I just want to put the empahsis on the surrounding factor of Bastogne. Meaning a map with nice forest/tank combat and infantry/street combat. I'll put some screenshot up of the town as it is at the moment, plus some shots outside of town (unlit, can't seem to get the lighting to work, it keeps crashing at random points)




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#3 13 years ago

But germans have never enterd Bastone, the fightings took place all aroun the town. To prevent Battlecraft 1942 (you got v. 2.1 I hope) from crushing you shouldn't do anything else than leaving it as long as it's generating shadows, lightmaps, etc...




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#4 13 years ago

I'm not sure the germans did not enter the city, but I do know they where just unable to take it. And that's what this map will be designed for. US troops surrounded by germans tankdivisions, which have a VERY hard time trying to get into the town. so the fighting will take place mostly on the edge of the town. The two farms east of Bastogne are spawnpoints to hinder the tanks advancing towards the town. Overall tanks will have a hard time moving arround due to the bad roads, craters, tank barriers, wrecks on the roads and in the town. I just added two things to the map to make it more interesting. The germans are able to take one of the allied town flags, this will then force the allied to try and take it back. The town is the allied their anti ticket bleed, the same goes fot the germans. Also the german base north of Bastogne is linked to reinforcements (certain tank respawns for the germans) for both the germans and the allied. If the allied manage to defend Bastogne long enough for 2 soldiers to slip trough the defence and take this base. This will signal that the germans have failed and tank reinfocements are available for the allies. This will also stop some important tanks from respawning on the germans side. I think this all is somewhat historicly correct, plus it adds good gameplay (best of both? ^^ ) [edit] About the lighting. I let it do it's job, even go watch some tv and leave the pc to do it's job in peace. But when I come back BC has crashed :( I just havent come arround to fixing it, that's all. I also work in editor42 most of the time placing structures (just like the placement system better)




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#5 13 years ago

Well, it isn't completely historycaly correct. Bigger german forces were allways stopped on the defence lines about 5 km from Bastogne, there were several cases where few germans managed to do roadblock behind the 101'st airborne lines. The Bastogne itself was only attacked by bombers. Reinforcements came from general Patton few weeks after the sorrounding. The map should focus on fights in the forest defence lines if you wan't to make it realistic, if not just improve the map as it is. Bastogne was home to american HQ, hospital and artillery. Try useing more small buidings from 0.66.




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#6 13 years ago

Hmm perhaps I could change the map a little between the german main base and the town. the road as it is now is quite wide, I could make it a narrow forest path to get more combat in the forest. And do the same perhaps on the south of the town, by moving the germans base more south. And here I thought I knew it all, thanks for the input Allen. SHould I abandon the idea of allies getting tank reinfocements if they take the north base? It seems to add a nice tactical edge to the map, but it will have a serious impact on the historicly correctness (spelling)




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#7 13 years ago

I think that you should remove that possibility because surely there will be some people that will snake behind ignoring the whole battle and hide themselfes in geramn base, it would just make americans to attack rather than stay on defence. Remember to add trenches in the forest. Oh, and maybe read the Band of brothers book or watch the film. It would get you the idea how did it looked like.




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#8 13 years ago

If i remember well, about 8 German Panzergrenadiers made it into the town of Bastogne with their sdkfz 251 half-track, they did not get far tough, they whey where shot by a Sherman, on the corner of two streets, near the church. I read this somewhere in a museum in Bastogne itself.