JetroExactly how left can Europe get?:eek:
Believe me when I say that our right wings could be considered commies in the US :nodding:
Irwin RommelBelieve me when I say that our right wings could be considered commies in the US :nodding:
Or neo-nazis :uhoh: Depending were in Europe of course ;)
of course ;)
FuzzyBunnyLad, I majored in international relations at a pretty decent school; I know a _little_ bit about political trends and theories. I was kind of hoping for that general gist of an answer. ******************************************** Frankly, I sometimes wonder where I fit in as a low-tax gun-rights social & economic laissez faire, law and order and political accountability kind of guy who likes good public education and transportation and doesn't like to go invading countries left and right. It certainly isn't in any political party I know.
jumjum's was right but the obvious answer is that I have to lay a foundation before I dig in and do this justice. Also, I'm pretty certain of the Fuzz's lofty poly sci credentials so I was not low browing you on poipoise (thank you Curly for that word.) PS - I also appreciate being called a "lad." It makes me feel kinda young again, like the feeling I got being carded at the local Meijers the other day. I'm probably with you on over half of the issues of the day but the topic of the day is the military. Sidebar to Komrad_b: Yes you are correct about the socialism part. But if the political/idealology shoes fits, I think a party ought to wear it. Also (for this you should get a cookie) your definition of conservatism is correct as well in the overall traditional sense. But I think what I stated is appropriate for the US, seeing as what we are as a people and nation was generated by said laissez faire regulatory attitudes in the history of the US. Yikes, I've got an emergency at work....
Real-BadSeedya us guys up here with the working socialism :p
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah right...when people go blind waiting for medical treatment suuuure...
If the US government ran healthcare anything like they do the local DMV, we'd all be dead within a decade. Then again, what better way to solve the social security crisis.;r
I take what n0e says way too seriously
9th April 2005
jumjumheh, and oldie but a goodie. The problem always is, who decides what is needed and what can be spared.
PS i actually did figure out a system that did not rely on violence but it takes too long to explain.
PPS please forgive the latenes of my reply
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
LoboDonitz, let's stay out of this discussion, we are...scary music...leftist europeans :lol:
You are left winged? One wouldn't think that with all the violence and brutality you use! :lookaround:
Disclaimer: "left winged" and "right winged" are vague terms and may be interpreted by each individual in a different way. :lol: :p
I pretend I'm cooler than AzH
3rd September 2005
Komrad_BThis is socialism. Democratic party =/= a socialist party... ...at all Seriously the funny part is that both sides are bashing each others, calling themselves nazis and communists, while in truth Democrats and Republicans are, basically, the same. Its just that the wonders of a 2 party system makes it so extremists pick either the "rightist" (Republican) or "center-right" (Democrats) party, and act as if it was either the neo-fascist arab genociding party or stalinist parties, depending on their political alleagance. In fact, it seems as if these two parties can be watever they and their members want them to be at any particular moment, but in reality I'd say they are both quite similar, with a few changes in rethoric and different allies (who do nothing else but spread and spout various B.S., wether they are conservative or "liberal"). Besides, your definitions of both liberals and conservatives is wrong, simply because this is relative. Liberals want changes, Conservatives want status quo (or return to an ancient status quo that existed in the '50 or before). Examples : Al Quada are conservatives, they want a return to old islam and strict obediance to traditions. Bush, to the Afghans, is probably an ultra-liberal. No need to explain why... Other examples : Liberals in the 19th century were capitalists (and still are considered like it in more leftist countries). The old stalinist politburo members in the late-1980 Soviet Communist Party were considered conservatives, because they wanted to stick to the old methods. Screw Locke, JJR's the man! (no really, we are lucky to have had Locke. Way better than silly Hobbes for example)
this is a great post. i definatly agree with the afghanistan thing.
I sentence you all to a thorough reading of the Te Tao Ching, The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, Also Sprach Zarathustra, Das Kapital, The Wealth of Nations, The Leviathan, Du Contrat Social, and The Fountainhead / Atlas Shrugged (if you can make it through the third-rate prose without retching).
You have been eaten by a grue.