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Equis Legionis

Nothing Clever to Say

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#21 14 years ago

Wow, I disappear for a couple of months and this is the stuff we choose to talk about. Whatever happened to the good old days when we used to flame USMA2010 just for the hell of it :) . Naw, just kidding, the dude has got some insane views but atleast he has the balls to express them. Septic death, do you really think that because the United States has experienced "10+ YEARS OF TERRORISM!!!!!!!!!!!!! " (note the sarcasism) that we have any right to continue what we have begun? Here's an interesting piece of information, the fifth year of Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan was their most casualty producing year. We've been in Afghanistan how long? Makes you wonder what is going to happen in a couple more years if we don't get the hell out. Makes ya wonder what's going to happen in Iraq if we don't manage to get a proper goverment established soon. Terrorism will always exist, we can take measures to secure our homeland but invading another country is a step too far in my opinion. I'd rather we focus more on humanitarian issues, millions die in africa because of tribal wars every year and you never see that in the news. (okay, I lied there, you do see a little bit every once and a while but not much :) ). Okay, and a little off topic but pertinant to the situation at hand, I feel that organized religion is the number one contributor to genocide in the world. I'm a little jaded, I'll admit that, but it just seems to me that ultimately the end product of religion is polarization of people, not unity like each and every religion preaches (I'll grant wicca an excemption here, as far as pacifist religions go, you can't get more laid back and relaxed than wicca, except for maybe Rastafarians :naughty: ). Every problem in Southwest Asia today seems to trace it's roots back to organized religion (which is unfortunate because last time I checked basic Islam, and by that I mean the teachings of Muhammad, preaches toleration of Christianity and Judaism on the basis that those two religions are closely related to Islam, correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I read into Islam). And ultimately maybe my view on religion is biased what with me living in the Bible Belt of the United States (someone save me please :D ) And, since I haven't been around for awhile I just wanted to give a Shout Out to Guns of Brixton, Komrade B, Braun, Mkh, and Run 4 Da Gun. Long time no see, I've been busy, maybe if I can manage to get some free time I'll begin to take part in these delightful conversations once again. Just a quick note, Septic, dude I'm not trying to flame ya, I just differ in opion that's all...




septic death

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22nd September 2003

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#22 14 years ago
Equis LegionisWow, I disappear for a couple of months and this is the stuff we choose to talk about. Whatever happened to the good old days when we used to flame USMA2010 just for the hell of it :) . Naw, just kidding, the dude has got some insane views but atleast he has the balls to express them. Septic death, do you really think that because the United States has experienced "10+ YEARS OF TERRORISM!!!!!!!!!!!!! " (note the sarcasism) that we have any right to continue what we have begun? Here's an interesting piece of information, the fifth year of Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan was their most casualty producing year. We've been in Afghanistan how long? Makes you wonder what is going to happen in a couple more years if we don't get the hell out. Makes ya wonder what's going to happen in Iraq if we don't manage to get a proper goverment established soon. Terrorism will always exist, we can take measures to secure our homeland but invading another country is a step too far in my opinion. I'd rather we focus more on humanitarian issues, millions die in africa because of tribal wars every year and you never see that in the news. (okay, I lied there, you do see a little bit every once and a while but not much :) ). Okay, and a little off topic but pertinant to the situation at hand, I feel that organized religion is the number one contributor to genocide in the world. I'm a little jaded, I'll admit that, but it just seems to me that ultimately the end product of religion is polarization of people, not unity like each and every religion preaches (I'll grant wicca an excemption here, as far as pacifist religions go, you can't get more laid back and relaxed than wicca, except for maybe Rastafarians :naughty: ). Every problem in Southwest Asia today seems to trace it's roots back to organized religion (which is unfortunate because last time I checked basic Islam, and by that I mean the teachings of Muhammad, preaches toleration of Christianity and Judaism on the basis that those two religions are closely related to Islam, correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I read into Islam). And ultimately maybe my view on religion is biased what with me living in the Bible Belt of the United States (someone save me please :D ) And, since I haven't been around for awhile I just wanted to give a Shout Out to Guns of Brixton, Komrade B, Braun, Mkh, and Run 4 Da Gun. Long time no see, I've been busy, maybe if I can manage to get some free time I'll begin to take part in these delightful conversations once again. Just a quick note, Septic, dude I'm not trying to flame ya, I just differ in opion that's all...

I see religion nearly the same as you. This is why i stay away from religion, it has some good but follow it to the word and its deadly.




Kai Hiwatari

The Internet ends at GF

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#23 14 years ago

Iraq did not fund terrorists... And even if they did, you might as well have attacked Saudi Arabia, or Iran... :uhm:




Komrad_B

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#24 14 years ago
Equis LegionisWow, I disappear for a couple of months and this is the stuff we choose to talk about. Whatever happened to the good old days when we used to flame USMA2010 just for the hell of it :) . Naw, just kidding, the dude has got some insane views but atleast he has the balls to express them. Septic death, do you really think that because the United States has experienced "10+ YEARS OF TERRORISM!!!!!!!!!!!!! " (note the sarcasism) that we have any right to continue what we have begun? Here's an interesting piece of information, the fifth year of Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan was their most casualty producing year. We've been in Afghanistan how long? Makes you wonder what is going to happen in a couple more years if we don't get the hell out. Makes ya wonder what's going to happen in Iraq if we don't manage to get a proper goverment established soon. Terrorism will always exist, we can take measures to secure our homeland but invading another country is a step too far in my opinion. I'd rather we focus more on humanitarian issues, millions die in africa because of tribal wars every year and you never see that in the news. (okay, I lied there, you do see a little bit every once and a while but not much :) ). Okay, and a little off topic but pertinant to the situation at hand, I feel that organized religion is the number one contributor to genocide in the world. I'm a little jaded, I'll admit that, but it just seems to me that ultimately the end product of religion is polarization of people, not unity like each and every religion preaches (I'll grant wicca an excemption here, as far as pacifist religions go, you can't get more laid back and relaxed than wicca, except for maybe Rastafarians :naughty: ). Every problem in Southwest Asia today seems to trace it's roots back to organized religion (which is unfortunate because last time I checked basic Islam, and by that I mean the teachings of Muhammad, preaches toleration of Christianity and Judaism on the basis that those two religions are closely related to Islam, correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I read into Islam). And ultimately maybe my view on religion is biased what with me living in the Bible Belt of the United States (someone save me please :D ) And, since I haven't been around for awhile I just wanted to give a Shout Out to Guns of Brixton, Komrade B, Braun, Mkh, and Run 4 Da Gun. Long time no see, I've been busy, maybe if I can manage to get some free time I'll begin to take part in these delightful conversations once again. Just a quick note, Septic, dude I'm not trying to flame ya, I just differ in opion that's all...

As always you have made a wise and excellent post, welcome back Equis :bows:




septic death

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#25 14 years ago
Kai HiwatariIraq did not fund terrorists... And even if they did, you might as well have attacked Saudi Arabia, or Iran... :uhm:

Check out your facts about Iraqi and yes something needs to be done with Iran, Syria and etc... for funding terrorist. In each of those situations the reaction of the USA most likely will be different.




GunsOfBrixton29

[8th] Col. Brixton

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#26 14 years ago

All countries fund terrorist organizations at some point or another, and yes, even the United States. Do we deserve to be invaded?




Equis Legionis

Nothing Clever to Say

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7th August 2004

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#27 14 years ago

Here's the difficult thing about terrorism, ultimately, the final verdict on who was justified and who wasn't will be based years from now. Take the United States for example, I'd be willing to bet that George Washington was viewed as an insurgent by the United Kingdom several hundred years ago, but now he's practically an american icon (he's on our money heh, heh). Was Boris Yelstin a terrorist when he spoke through a bullhorn to the masses on top of a T-72 during the fall of Soviet Russia? I'd be willing to bet that if communism hadn't crumbled he would have been labeled Russian Public Enemy Number One by the KGB. Don't get me wrong, there are some organizations that can't be labeled as anything other than terrorist in nature, such as Al Queda and McDonald's (mark my words, Ronald McDonald is Satan himself, j/k :lol: ). But as they say, history is written by the victor.




FN_lewrbm69

It's Not Easy Being Green

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#28 14 years ago

sorry but crap the video but the point it is over used.