A bit disconcerting...7 suspected terrorists arrested in my area -1 reply

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#1 9 years ago

Today in my region of North Carolina, the FBI arrested seven men and charged them with providing material support to terrorist organizations and conspiracy to commit murder and kidnapping.

The leader of the group, Daniel Boyd, is an American convert to Islam who received training in camps in Afghanistan and fought as a foreign volunteer in the Afghan civil war in the early '90s. Since then, he has adopted the name "Saifullah" (lit., "Sword of God") and began attempting to convert local Muslims to his interpretation of Islam.

The rest of the group consisted of Boyd's two sons, 3 US citizens (1 naturalized, 2 native born) and 1 permanent resident from Kosovo.

The group had established a terrorist training camp in a rural area where they drilled military tactics and hoarded assault rifles. According to the news tonight, Boyd was holding a house sale where he was selling off all of his possessions. This would seem to indicate that he was expecting to shortly relocate to another country, end up dead, or both.

Judging from the articles below it seems he was training his men for fighting overseas rather than inside the United States.

7 in North Carolina charged with supporting terrorism - CNN.com

Seven Charged In Terror Conspiracy, Ties To Caswell County | digtriad.com | Triad, NC | Local News




Stefan F

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#2 9 years ago

so much for the iraq and afghanistan wars making you safer




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#3 9 years ago

Any thing you want to tell us Raptor?




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#4 9 years ago
'[WDWMegaraptor;4960104']... ... The group had established a terrorist training camp in a rural area where they drilled military tactics and hoarded assault rifles. ...

Sounds like your everyday normal American militia to me, only thing that looks 'wrong' is that they aren't Christians but Muslims.

The rest of the group consisted of Boyd's two sons, 3 US citizens (1 naturalized, 2 native born) and 1 permanent resident from Kosovo.

Can someone help me out with the definition of naturalized? Sounds really strange. :lol:




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#5 9 years ago

Naturalized American citizen=someone who was born in a foreign country and immigrated to the USA, and became an American citizen.

Sounds like your everyday normal American militia to me, only thing that looks 'wrong' is that they aren't Christians but Muslims.

Your "normal every day American militia" is regularly subjected to surveillance by law enforcement, just as this group was.

so much for the iraq and afghanistan wars making you safer

Well, one argument is that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan serve as a "sink" to draw terrorists away from the United States. So instead of attacking the United States, terrorists go to Iraq and fight the US military there. Which is apparently what these guys were planning on doing.




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#6 9 years ago

or maybe they are freedom fighters fighting off an invasion.

oh let me quote a few things from the israel gaza war

Civilians are collateral damage, im sure there was a target of military importance near it
They have every right to defend themself, by any means necesarry

They are stupid though, they should have bought some uniforms which would give them instant geneva convention rights according to rumsfeld :)




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#7 9 years ago

Stefan what are you talking about.

I don't even understand what you are rambling on here.

It's like you just pulled random phrases out of a big box of "Hans' Euro Anti-American and Anti-Israeli Catchphrases" and posted them.




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#8 9 years ago

i posted it cause you are who backed like every war around the world, yet when "terrorists" are near you, you suddenly are the pansy in the forum, excusing civilians casualities with for example the gaza war, thats what my not 100% word for word accurate quotes come from.

And fighting a military is by defenition not terrorism but freedom fighting, your country agreed on that when signing the geneva convention, and in afghanistans case, NATO forces killed more civilians this year and last year than the taliban did, who are we to call them terrorists then?

And no need to pull the anti america line when i pointed out the hypocracy :)




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#9 9 years ago

yes, Stefan is following through with the normal taking you to task stuff. Follow along and I will show you how its done... Said "Freedom Fighters" are American citizens. Therefore this is treason, punishable by death. He'll love that one. Over the top sarcasm in 5 4 3




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#10 9 years ago

Oh my...where do I begin?

Stefan F;4960318i posted it cause you are who backed like every war around the world,[/QUOTE]

What does this have to do with terrorist training camps in North Carolina?

Stefan F;4960318yet when "terrorists" are near you, you suddenly are the pansy in the forum,[/QUOTE]

Why are you calling me a pansy? Do you want me to grab a 12 gauge and go hunting for terrorists?

Stefan F;4960318excusing civilians casualities with for example the gaza war, thats what my not 100% word for word accurate quotes come from.[/QUOTE]

OK, so your "not 100% word for word accurate quotes" about me excusing civilian casualties have nothing to do with what I was posting about.

I'm still failing to see think link between the Gaza War and Americans training to fight Jihad overseas?

[QUOTE=Stefan F;4960318]And fighting a military is by defenition not terrorism but freedom fighting,

So fighting a military is always "freedom fighting"? What if you are fighting a democracy in order to establish a tyrannical government?

How do you know these guys intended to fight a military?

As Stylie said, 6 of them are Americans so if they intended to fight the US military it is treason, not freedom fighting.

[QUOTE=Stefan F;4960318]your country agreed on that when signing the geneva convention

The Geneva Conventions do not recognize a legal category called "freedom fighter."

[QUOTE=Stefan F;4960318]and in afghanistans case, NATO forces killed more civilians this year and last year than the taliban did, who are we to call them terrorists then?

Do you have statistics to back up this statement?

In addition, terrorism is defined not by its death toll but by its methods.