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Froggin_Ashole42

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#1 13 years ago

Ok Ok. I need your advice.

www.cyberpowerpc.com

There is a pentium 4 3.2 ghz prescott with PCI express and gf fx 5700 card for 704 dollars. There is an AMD 64 3500+ system(similar specs) w/o PCI express for 740 dollars. I would buy the pentium but I'm afraid because it doesn't have 64 bit,it might not work well in the future.The good thing about the pent. system is I can get an ati 9800 w.o breaking my price range. So,whats the dillyo?What should I get?




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#2 13 years ago

That Intel chip is not 64 bit but 32 bit. As far as I can remember there are no Intel chips that are 64 bits. Basically that AMD will totally beat up that intel chip hands down. Id go with the AMD CPU.




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#3 13 years ago
DuoGodOfDeathThat Intel chip is not 64 bit but 32 bit. As far as I can remember there are no Intel chips that are 64 bits. Basically that AMD will totally beat up that intel chip hands down. Id go with the AMD CPU.[/QUOTE] Bad choice. Not because the AMD won't knock the Intel around like a ragdoll, but because you lose out on PCIe by going with that specific system. While I'm not keen on Intel's push for DDR2 memory, PCIe will probably be shoving it's way into the forefront over the next year, and I think it's a poor idea to build a new computer that's not PCIe-capable. [QUOTE=Froggin_Ashole42]There is a pentium 4 3.2 ghz prescott with PCI express and gf fx 5700 card for 704 dollars. There is an AMD 64 3500+ system(similar specs) w/o PCI express for 740 dollars. I would buy the pentium but I'm afraid because it doesn't have 64 bit,it might not work well in the future.The good thing about the pent. system is I can get an ati 9800 w.o breaking my price range.

1) That 9800 won't work with the Intel, as it's AGP and not PCIe. 2) If it (the Intel) has got PCIe, it may also have DDR2. This stuff is expensive and still relatively difficult to find, at least to the extent that DDR is. What mothboard does the Intel rig come with? 3) While 64 bit CPUs will someday become necessary, very few programs make use of the technology, and most just run as 32 bit. Most of the performance that the A64 holds over the P4 is in the fact that the A64 is a newer, arguably better platform. Not because it's 64 bit. 4) All later-generation (HT-enabled) Northwood and Prescott Pentium 4's have latent--but diabled--64 bit extensions. Nocona Xeons are now shipping with EM64T (Intel's 64-bit extention set) enabled, and that will probably make it's way into desktop CPUs by 2006, about the same time Longhorn is supposed to materialize. I'm looking at their website right now, which models specifically were you considering? I can't find any that fit your description. Based solely on preliminary data, the AMD is probably the better choice right now, but the Intel is going to be slightly more future-proof (particularly with respect to the video card).




Froggin_Ashole42

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#4 13 years ago

You go to the configurator and hit"Intel Configurator" theres a slide box that says Intel PCI Express system.

You are kinda beating around the bush there.Which one would be the better buy(I'll be stuck with either one as I don't get new comps often. This current one I'm on is almost 4 yrs. old)?




Froggin_Ashole42

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#5 13 years ago

Bump.




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#6 13 years ago
Froggin_Ashole42You go to the configurator and hit"Intel Configurator" theres a slide box that says Intel PCI Express system. You are kinda beating around the bush there.Which one would be the better buy(I'll be stuck with either one as I don't get new comps often. This current one I'm on is almost 4 yrs. old)?

No, I'm not beating around the bush. If you're like me (the kind of person who does some kind of a "major" upgrade every few months or so, then the Intel rig is probably a better choice, as it has PCIe. However, currently Intel's chipset and CPU lineups are rather bland. If you're not planning to upgrade, you'd be best served to build the best system you can right now, then scrap the whole thing later on when it's outdated. If that's the case, then the AMD system is the better choice. So given what little I know about your needs and habits, it sounds like you want the AMD. But I would counsel you to go with at least a 9800Pro and 2x512MB sticks of memory for it. You should be upable to upgrade the CPU for awhile as long as it's sockt 939 (which it should be).




Froggin_Ashole42

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#7 13 years ago

Yeah,sounds like a good idea I guess.That way I can upgrade. This one I am on has some outdated parts so its just better to get a whole new rig.




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#8 13 years ago

Are those companies like Cyberpower and IBuyPower even worth looking at? The systems seem too inexpensive to be good.




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#9 13 years ago

Buy great video card and slow processor because if you haven't noticed; video cards cost twice more than one of the fastest processors.

Example:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=19-116-172&DEPA=0 Processor

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-131-408&depa=0 Video card




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#10 13 years ago

heh ? you dont know much about computers ;) wth buy a good video card if your processor cant use all of its power ?