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jumjum

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#1 10 years ago

I got into fps games through air combat sims. My first air sim was around 1995 with the original Red Baron, after which I went to 1942:Pacific Air War, and then on to the MS WWII air combat sims. My first foray into rts was Panzer General II, which I loved, around 1999 or so. The last WWII fps/rts series I played was MOH, and I had through the third one (was that the one in the Pacific?), but I got tired of a script/path type of game. It feels so incredibly limited, which is why I ditched everything for BF1942 by 2004 and then into FH, who I've been exclusive with since.

So I'm waaaaay behind in knowing what is out there. It's time to see what advances have been made in both fps and rts. A thread or two over the years have compared various aspects of other games to FH, but I don't believe we've had an attempt at really peeling the onion on the top 8-10 WWII games. I'm not asking if there's anyone who has sacrificed any hope of a real-world life to the point they can know all there is to know about all the WWII games. But perhaps there are enough who know a lot about one or two, or who know a little about a lot of them that I can get educated.

So is there anyone who can take this one on? masybe just a litlle? Bueller?




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#2 10 years ago

You could like these if you are after more realistic rts games: Theatre of War Close Combat Cross of Iron Close Combat Wacht am Rhein

If not there are also more ordinary rts games like: Company of Heroes

Ohh and Hearts of Iron II is very nice grand scale strategy game but it takes time to learn how to play it (at least for me).




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#3 10 years ago

If you have Halflife2, I'd defiantly check out the resistance and liberation mod at Welcome to Resistance and Liberation - Home. Its probobly the best infantry combat RTS I've played, although it is a fresh mod so it doesnt have much content yet.

Red Orchestra is also a no-brainer for WW2 FPS, although I don't agree with some of their design choices. It has a North Africa mod for it called Mare Nostrum that is pretty decent (though its no FH2 :p)

Company of Heroes is pretty awesome, though its by no means realistic. Its defiantly the best looking, and probably the easiest to play.




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#4 10 years ago

Jum, get HOI, fits perfectly whit you!




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#5 10 years ago

Hearts of Iron 2




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#6 10 years ago

Nice picture of JumJum in FH2:

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anyway, CoH is great, but really hard to learn due to being fast and rather unforgiving. The campaign is fun, though.




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#7 10 years ago

jumjum;4745324I got into fps games through air combat sims. My first air sim was around 1995 with the original Red Baron, after which I went to 1942:Pacific Air War, and then on to the MS WWII air combat sims. My first foray into rts was Panzer General II, which I loved, around 1999 or so. The last WWII fps/rts series I played was MOH, and I had through the third one (was that the one in the Pacific?), but I got tired of a script/path type of game. It feels so incredibly limited, which is why I ditched everything for BF1942 by 2004 and then into FH, who I've been exclusive with since.

So I'm waaaaay behind in knowing what is out there. It's time to see what advances have been made in both fps and rts. A thread or two over the years have compared various aspects of other games to FH, but I don't believe we've had an attempt at really peeling the onion on the top 8-10 WWII games. I'm not asking if there's anyone who has sacrificed any hope of a real-world life to the point they can know all there is to know about all the WWII games. But perhaps there are enough who know a lot about one or two, or who know a little about a lot of them that I can get educated.

So is there anyone who can take this one on? masybe just a litlle? Bueller?

My first game ever came even before Red Baron, called Aces of the Pacific: 1946, an epic flight sim made by Sierra. If I remember correctly, it ran off of DOS on a computer that had Windows 3.1! Though basic, that game got me hooked on WWII lore and gaming in general.

To be honest, since BF1942, there hasn't been a ton of "innovation" in WWII gaming. Call of Duty continues the Medal of Honor-inspired linear gameplay and everything else just hasn't delivered (with the exception of FH2 of course!). I would also recommend checking out the HL2 mod, Resistance and Liberation which you can find here. It's intended to be an "infantry simulator" with the removal of HUD and other features. It's still very new and currently in Alpha form but they just released their 3rd patch on Christmas so it's a good time to check out the mod. I play it all the time when I get the chance.




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#8 10 years ago

I just downloaded the Hearts of iron demo, and I can not figure out for the life of me how to play. It just throws you straight into battle. All i got done was throwing away several divisions in attacks because the only thing I knew how to do was attack.




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#9 10 years ago

I remember the Close Combat series when they were just getting started with an Arnhem mini-mod they were pushing as a free dl in other games. Looked a hybrid of a strategy game and an fps, where instead of moving battalions or brigades, you're moving squads or even single men. I just never followed up on it.

Oh, I forgot to say I cut my fps teeth on the Rainbow Six/Rogue Spear series (all the "R-S" names coming form the famous "Robin Sage" exercise that all Green Beret candidates must perform as a final test) and I have something like 8 discs of that stuff. It was fun shooting terrorists and Spetsnaz, and having shootouts over the Bridge of Sighs in Venice. And then it was 4-6 discs of Ghost Recon and even a couple of Delta Force games. I loved the Rainbow 6 and Ghost Recon. Did anyone ever mod either R6 or GR for WWII play? So cool if they did. Man, that would be such an incredibly cool experiment.

hockey, I remember Aces Of the Pacifiac and the other Sierra games, but was it 1946? I haven't thought about Sierra games in years, but they were the EA of their day, weren't they? There's a lesson there somewhere.

My nephew got COD WaW for XBox for Christmas and it looked fun, although you're so limited to where you can go and what you can do - and it's a slaughterfest.

McGibs, I'm amazed at the possibilities of a WWII mod for HL2. Man that would be one beautiful-looking mod with a raging beast for an engine. The upside on that would seem huge.

RO is probably a no-brainer as you say. I've never tried it, but it looks very similar to FH.

Hey, what about Return To Castle Wolfenstein? Of course that game is already like a mod, so why would anyone go backward and turn it into a pure WWII shooter? :rofl:




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#10 10 years ago

Get Hearts of Iron ( II is the best ), you won't regret it! Also, give Hidden & Dangerous 2 a try.