Ok, this gets really old really fast. EVERY single time I play the map Counterattack some clowns have to start French bashing. I mean, okay, I can understand a joke. I have no problems with jokes and understand they are merely for amusement; most French people would laugh at a simple joke about them. In fact, I don't mind making an anti-this-or-that joke every now and again too. But it's never a single joke. Instead, a select group of players start going on some anti-French spree, saying things that are not funny but designed more for the express purpose of hurting. Even worse is that they speak as though they actually knew about what they were talking of, of the history of France and French forces throughout WW2. On top of that, they often go on bashing the culture or people as a whole. As far as I'm concerned, this is racism. One can get as anal as possible about the definition of "race" or "racism," but the point is the same. I mean seriously, pick up a book and read real history a little; don't just repeat what you hear on the Late Night Show or from school (which is both narrow in teaching and full of propaganda). If you want to joke, FINE. Just don't get serious, because then it becomes personal.
Don't get mad, get even. You'll never shake the odium of cheese and white flags. Instead:
-if they're American, mention obese people, our president, and how few Americans have passports -if they're British, boiled food, obnoxious children and bad teeth -if they're German, well, obvious. -if they're Italian, well hey, you beat them Enjoy :-)
if they are chilean mention how their country's name sounds like a tasty entree
I'm gonna have to agree with Johannes on this on... Alittle joking around about the French or other nationalities is totally cool with me, heck, I'm a desindient of French Royality, and I could care less if you mock the French, although this could have something to do with I dont like the French people or France for that matter, just my opinion, no offense to anyone. But it can get to a point where it just becomes Childish, and thats when it just gets annoying, and that needs to stop... Or when someone is singled out and mocked, etc. that's just rude and can be hurt-full to some, which really needs to stop, now I can easily understand if the person being singled out is asking for because of PURPOSEFUL TeamKilling, Chat Abuse, Mic Abuse, etc. They get what they got coming to them. -Hoot.
What Johannes says his true. Every single time I play Counterattack, every time, at least one person starts talking shit about France. If ithis happens in Allied Front, I usually kick them for racism, if its in another server (or I just feel particularily angry) I simply beat the crap out of them with a S35 or matilda, verbally assault them then make them realize they have been repeatedly pwned by a "frenchie". I'm not from France, but I'm proud of my origins and my language!
However, ever since there is a Panzer III in this map its much harder to own this map with french tanks, wich makes me sad since this was a good lesson for those ignorant racists.
Erm, not to nitpick, but French is not a race.
Some people think it is, and they think it is inferior. Thus, they are racist :D
I have experience in this, trust me. Being french in computer games is sometimes like being a jew in Germany around 1938.
I can't agree more, and is a bad joke, I had loved to see how USA would perform against Blitzkrieg in 1939 if USA is placed in the same geographic position of France ;)
No, being French in computer games is absolutely, utterly, nothing like being a Jew in Germany around 1938.
It is like being an American in a computer game when some dumbshit child starts off on Bush (do I care?!?) or like being German when some dumbshit child starts off on J00 All TEH NATZIS, or like being Yossarian when I'm around and start being evil on Canadians. Note the common theme here: dumbshit children. That is what you're dealing with. You can:
-take the moral high ground and ignore it -question their sexuality -find their own weak spot and mercilessly exploit it, sending them crying from the room while you shovel their asses. This is what I do. My goal is to send the dumbshit children bawling from the room in an apoplectic fit. Use with caution.
I like France, yet I have a lot of English friends who think "it's all wogs east of Calais". I ask them, what part is it you find objectionable? The fact that it doesn't rain all the time, that they can cook, that their capital isn't filthy, that their trains run on time, or that their women aren't pale, chubby hags? I'll be glad to give you more ideas on how to get started.
I would strongly encourage you to re-think what you just wrote in any case. And complaining about "racism" in a case that's far from it, even though your complaint is fair, does nothing to help.
The only thing that we say when that map starts up is "The French fight like real men"...thats a quote from a player playing on the same map. It cracks us up every time...
Anyhoo...French did quite badly in WWII...this is a WWII game with the majority of players only knowing about WWII...in which the French got overrun in a few weeks. So don't expect people to hail French military talent here, though racism towards the French is unjustified and wrong.