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#61 12 years ago

lol

we got an stronger airforce today :lol: well british got the support of EEUU and tecnology of other advanced countryes... so we got the MIRAGE 2000 :bows:

so0 no more fight yeah thats right our econmy is unestable (bad)

argentina now is a peace country :nodding: and we got people living on Falklands the people are the familiars of the EX-soldiers of the damn war




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#62 12 years ago

torenico;3761031lol

we got an stronger airforce today :lol: well british got the support of EEUU and tecnology of other advanced countryes... so we got the MIRAGE 2000 :bows:

so0 no more fight yeah thats right our econmy is unestable (bad)

argentina now is a peace country :nodding: and we got people living on Falklands the people are the familiars of the EX-soldiers of the damn war

<.<..congrats, you're getting French hand-me-downs. "Argentina is now a peace country"? <.<....you people still get all nationalistic about the Falkands War thing.

I bet, if your country wasn't just another "Bannana Republic" you'd try that whole Falkands Reconquista' again.




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#63 12 years ago

I am definitely on Fuzzy's side this time. Hong Kong is not a valid comparison. Technically the British only leased the land from China for 99 years. When that expired China had the right to reclaim it. This was a right which China was well poised to enforce. I am going from memory here, but as I recall when Deng Xiaoping sat down with the British to begin discussions of the handover. The British asked how they should open negotiations, and Deng said, "There is nothing to negotiate." Then he said something about China holding all the cards. The desire of the people living in the territory in question is a key factor, but as Hong Kong shows, it is not determinative. Newfoundland is another example. The first referendum showed that a more of Newfies wanted to remain as a dominion than join Canada, but Britain had other ideas. The vote was put to them differently, and a slight majority voted to join Canada. (52%) The rest is history. My point is, it is not just the will of the people that is important, it is also the will of the government to govern them. If the government is willing to leave them, they will probably be left. That is why nobody sees eye to eye here. Fuzzy points out, rightly, that the will of the people in the territory (Gibraltar in this case, or the Falklands too if you like) is crucial. However Lobo points out, also rightly, that if the British government was willing to hand over the territory to Spain, the territory would indeed be handed over. What I don't understand is why anybody cares. Lobo, would you get a warm fuzzy feeling if you were able to look at a map of the Iberian peninsula without having it tarnished by that little sliver of red at the bottom? (And that pesky separatist state, Portugal.) Because, aside from 'map integrity' why the hell do you care about it? Their is not one meter of border in the rest of Europe that is not historically contested. (Except maybe the chunnel) But it is generally accepted to let the current borders stay as they are. Germany has a much more recent claim to huge chunks of Poland, and Poland of Belarus and Ukraine. Should they be fighting about it? No. Nor should Spain and England. This is where the Borders are now, we should all learn to live with it. Oh and don't say I don't know what it's like. We got royally screwed by the British and the Americans in 1903 over territory now part of Alaska. It raises my hackles to think of the American flag waving over those freezing, uninhabitable islands and coastline. But honestly, I have better things to do than redraw maps. Oh, and those of you saying military might justifies occupation. Stop taking my side in this argument, you're creeping me out.




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#64 12 years ago

torenico;3761031yeah thats right our econmy is unestable (bad)

argentina now is a peace country

Yes, but its economy is growing, and I'm happy for it, because Argentina is not just a peaceful country, it's a fucking awesome country. You have the best food, the best wine, the best horses, I don't understand why you care about some crappy islands when you have Buenos Aires.

I mean, c'mon, you have all the good stuff already. I even want to move there.

Argentina <3

@KiFM: LOL, I _wish_ I could give you more rep and donuts for bringing up Portugal. Awesome.




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#65 12 years ago

you forgot the woman.




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#66 12 years ago

(a) I already have a beautiful one, (b) Argentine women are bitchy (in a fun way, like evil dentists.) Plus, the Chilenos imported all the beautiful ones. So I'll have to stick with Venezuelans and Colombians for that. But I'm usually so drunk there that it doesn't matter, ne?




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#67 12 years ago

Fiery Scottish women pwn all. (But then I am biased.)