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H2HSnake

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#1 12 years ago

I just got news that in the economic area of Baltic they've discovered something that might be "Graf Zeppelin". german carrier It has flat board ,265 of lenght,30m of width,and 30 m of height Russians got it in 24.IV.1945 in Szczecin. Old story was that it sunked near :Leningrad while being transported ,but now it's belived that Russian goverment decided to sink it under pressure of some post war commision or something.When I got more info I'll let You know.If you'll find some post it here. maybe these are rumours i must check better,some ship probably carrier is there. EDIT: first info about this ship i got from the net is that germans sank(dunno if correct form) this carrier on 25.IV.1945 then Russians took it in 1947 to Leningrand and then to Finald and it was submerged(dunno if correct word)in Finland's Bay in 18.VI.1948 (55°48´ N, 18°30´ E) Edit: wikipedia link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin As the end of World War II neared, the roughly completed carrier was scuttled in shallow water at Stettin (now Szczecin) on 25 April 1945, just before the Red Army captured the city. After Germany's surrender, though, its history and fate is unclear.




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#2 12 years ago

"The last known photo of the carrier shows it leaving Swinemuende (now Swinoujscie on 7 April 1947 (see picture). The photo appears to show the carrier deck loaded with various containers, boxes and construction elements, hence the supposition that it was probably used to carry looted factory equipment from Poland and Germany to the Soviet Union." 1099826239.jpg




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#3 12 years ago

"After the opening of the Soviet archives, new light was shed on the mystery. It appears that the carrier was towed to Leningrad. There, after unloading, it was designated as "PO-101" (Floating Base Number 101). The Russians hoped that the carrier could be repaired in Leningrad's shipyards (those in Szczecin were destroyed). When this proved impractical, the ship was towed out to sea, back to the Swinemuende area. There, on 16 August 1947, it was used as a practice target for Soviet ships and aircraft. Allegedly, the Soviets installed aerial bombs on the flight deck, in hangars and even inside the funnels (to simulate a load of combat munitions), and then dropped bombs from aircraft, fired shells, and shot torpedoes into it. This assault would both comply with the Tripartite mandate (albeit late) and provide the Soviets with experience in sinking an aircraft carrier. By this point, the Cold War had well begun, and the Soviets were well aware of the large numbers and central importance of aircraft carriers in the US Navy, which in the event of an actual war between the Soviet Union and America would be targets of high strategic importance. Hence, experience in sinking carriers by aircraft was much more valuable in 1947 than before 1945. After being hit by 24 bombs and projectiles, the ship did not sink and had to be finished off by torpedoes. The exact position of the wreck was unknown for decades. On 12 July(in wiki there's June but it's a mistake I think) 2006 a ship belonging to Petrobaltic (a Polish oil company) found a 265 m. long wreck close to the port of Łeba which probably is the Graf Zeppelin"




Josey Wales

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#4 12 years ago

Who cares if it is the Graf Zeppelin ? Theres no use in salvaging a ship that was never finished, the plundered and blown to pieces.

Let her "Rust in piece".

JW




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#5 12 years ago
Who cares if it is the Graf Zeppelin ?

Er... I do:rolleyes:?




H2HSnake

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#6 12 years ago

i think they had a transport of Joseph Stalin's clones there,they were crap like original so Soviets had to destroy them :)




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#7 12 years ago

265 meters? Oh my god..could it be..? Flat side? Baltic? IT IS! DON'T RAISE IT!

That's no aircraft carrier. That's a sarcophagus. They've found the tomb of ROBOT DEATH MECHA HITLER.




Polska

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#8 12 years ago

FuzzyBunny265 meters? Oh my god..could it be..? Flat side? Baltic? IT IS! DON'T RAISE IT!

That's no aircraft carrier. That's a sarcophagus. They've found the tomb of ROBOT DEATH MECHA HITLER.

Wrong you are, it's ROBOT DEATH MECHA STALIN! :nodding:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/195009 <- Explains the whole story.




FatJoe

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#9 12 years ago

cool.. I modeled one for Derelict Studios's BlitzII :P Kinda brings up memories seeing those pictures :D

lol @ Robot Death Mecha Stalin.. quality work there.. :)




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#10 12 years ago

INtresting, one wonders what would happend if it was finsihed before the end of the war. Would be lovely if one could visit it as a museum carrier. :p

Too bad about it's true history but it's still intresting.




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