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stylie

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#1 11 years ago

I think its alot of hysteria. I dont think we are that big of a factor in the global climate. I am however, very much interested in alternative fuels/energies with the exception of bio-fuels as they stand now. This is not because I fear a dead earth, this is because I fear a dead wallet!!! Why would we even think about using our own food to power our machines. Now on that, you can call me hysterical. Especially when we could be doing things with cow/horse/people manure and using biomass that we do not eat, like algae/seaweed, things like that. That said, as I house hunt, Im looking at all kinds of options like under-sink flash water heaters (no tank), geo-thermal exchange and solar heat/electricity as well as ensuring that I have enough land to also grow some food to offset the rising costs of food, you know because mouths are going to have to fight off tractor trailers now (environmentalists are you listening?!? Do you realize that there will be a dramatic increase in deforestation with this market???). I came across this article, check it out... Massachussetts company develops inkjet-printed solar panels - Engadget I'll tell you what I think you/everyone needs to do, at least in the US. Leftist interests are disallowing all kinds of crap these days. No new refineries, nuclear power plants, no drilling in the arctic and such... You will need suplements in the future, not a big huge dramatic changeover, just the little things. A geothermal exchange retrofit, those under sink, heat on demand dealies, Some solar cells, better bulbs etc. Anything to hybridize your energy supplies. My point being, stop waiting for governmental solutions. Solutions do not make them money. Its problems that they like to exploit. This will never change. Sorry guys, just some random thoughts from the mind of minolta... I am painfully waiting to hear from a bank about buying a house they own and they are taking waaaay too long to tell us. Im in love with this house, wish me luck... Anyways, it is my belief that we can work together to solve this issue, My thinking (economical), theirs... hysteria... ok but in the end it results in a smarter more environmentally/economically friendly approach to energy generation. We need to be our own little clean power plants, not the big distribution type model in use today.




Kubador

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#2 11 years ago

Good luck with that house.

Well, my way of thinking is more hysteriacal (economical later) couse I haven't seen any snow this year I used to remember from years before. Adding all days I've seen that ,hmmm... snow(?) would be less than two weeks. And believe me I remember winters with even -30 deg. of C - those were cool days, literally. Small hurricanes and draughts in summer aren't nice either. On top of all theres a rise of fuel price that makes me think of NOT buying a car...




Gen'l Knight

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#3 11 years ago

There was a story a few days ago about a woman whose new energy saving lighting exploded and she basically had to have the carpet cut out because of mercury environmental impacts. Cost > $2k. On Paul Harvey's AM radio news show I heard 2007 was the coolest in 50 yrs and NASA was going to have to update their climate model. We talked about this in a thread a while back and I for one do not believe the hype and Mr. Algore's movie about global warming. To me, it is all Earth's relative position to the sun. But environmentalism is a sacrament to the religion of Liberalism so the "belivers" will protest. As far as your house, next time I have to replace my hot water heater (natural gas) I'll go with the flash heater. It's expensive but you will save money in the long run in energy and water costs. Heat transfer (pump) systems are great as well. Congrats on your new house Stylie!




stylie

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#4 11 years ago

No house yet!!! Just waiting, and its excrutiating. Im in love with this house but being that it is in foreclosure we do not get the standard 48 hour answer, more like 2-3 weeks!!! Anyways, think LED, no mercury and very little heat. cc-vivid-led-light-bulb2.jpg Im telling you, Im very optimistic about energy. I think we're all gonna get what we want. Id just like to see it done in a way that doesnt hurt prosperity. Im into the movement too, just not out of fear of climate change. edit! To be clear, I believe that it is not the carbon output that would get us into trouble. Its the deforestation and draining of lands for building, soil loss, things like that are more imperative to me. We need those misty forests and bog lands.




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#5 11 years ago

Kubador;4248065Good luck with that house.

Well, my way of thinking is more hysteriacal (economical later) couse I haven't seen any snow this year I used to remember from years before. Adding all days I've seen that ,hmmm... snow(?) would be less than two weeks. And believe me I remember winters with even -30 deg. of C - those were cool days, literally. Small hurricanes and draughts in summer aren't nice either. On top of all theres a rise of fuel price that makes me think of NOT buying a car...

Exacly the same here in Sweden (Stockholm). there haven't been snow more than 4 days this whole year, and everytime it has melted before the next day. and I promise you, there is always a lot of snow here! I am very concerned about the climate question, been for a few years, but I have now gave up my hope. I believe that if this climate crisis is to be solved, all leaders of the world would have to unite, and make drastic changes, laws and rules. I don't think that the individual can change anything by for example changing to low-energy light bulbs (But i think everyone should to these individual things anyway!). For the earth to be saved, the changes have to come frome "above", leaders and big cooperations will have to set the standards for people. for example remove all wares bad for the enviroment, so the people have no choice but to pick the "good one".

So, since I also believe that most leaders and people with power are not willing to sacrifice their money (even not a relative small amount of it) to do their part to save the world. money = power. and it lies in human nature to have power and control, people don't want to risk losing their power and liberties. therefore, I don't think this crisis will be stopped. "the world is doomed" so to speak.

continue recycling, using low energy electronics, wear a sweater instead of turning om the termostat etc.




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#6 11 years ago

Yeah too bad recycling is mostly a sham/feel-good method and the energy efficient light bulbs are very shitty. They produce such a terrible shade of light, a nice sun-yellow would be nice but no I guess headlight blue is more popular. I mean the last batch of those bulbs, the only and last batch, that we got, out of four, one was broken and two died after a few seconds of use. We just laughed and returned them.




Lobo

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#7 11 years ago

We Are Doomed!!!!




Gen'l Knight

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#8 11 years ago

Lobo, I was expecting something more engaging from you. It has been a while since we have crossed keyboards (not swords).... :) I believe in energy conversation as well but as stated I don't believe the hype. Hunting is a hobby of mine so I have a vested interest for me and our children to preserve wild life and nature. Energy costs are simple supply and demand and oil/petroleum is limited. Nuclear energy is the real answer short/mid term. Our friends from France and other Euro nations have proved that it works it it is a shame we cannot move into the 21st century here. I also just heard the former weather guy from Good Morning America saying that he thinks Algore need to be sued for fraud. Coincidentally, he quoted my previous example of last year being one of the coolest on record that basically wiped out any supposed global temperature gain. There are probably parts of the worold that see some apparently strange weather (or lack of it) but the facts, on a global scale, do not bear witness to this.




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#9 11 years ago

You do realize global warming doesn't just mean hotter right Knight? It also means colder too, so when you say something like coldest year on record, well that actually supports global warming theory. Now stylie, this isn't really climate change related, but do you believe that there is a very limited about Oil left in the world? Or do you think it is endless?




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#10 11 years ago
Moose12;4248324You do realize global warming doesn't just mean hotter right Knight? It also means colder too, so when you say something like coldest year on record, well that actually supports global warming theory. Now stylie, this isn't really climate change related, but do you believe that there is a very limited about Oil left in the world? Or do you think it is endless?

I am assuming the measure for global warming is the average of all local temperatures that have been taken for years and compared. And we assume all temperature gathering points are placed in "neutral" spots, not next to air conditioner outlets blowing out hot air. Damn, I can't find my earlier post on "scientists" doing this.