At least they wouldn't have a stupid justification.
No, they'd just find a different stupid justification, like skin color, eye color, hair color, where they live....
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
The Hamas accusation is pure bullshit, but nontheless Isreal needs a firm slap on it's frist. Yet an other invesigation group/organisation established and confirmed foundings stating that Israel violate various national and international agreements/threatments/laws, this time an Israelly organisation (for those people who don't trust the foundings by the red cross, amnesty and so on :rolleyes: ).
I didn't make it!
Von Mudra;4949530No, they'd just find a different stupid justification, like skin color, eye color, hair color, where they live....
Or cause someone had more money than someone else, or they wanted his house, or to steal his stuff, or because he ran off with the other man's wife, or any number of reasons that people kill each other not related to religion.
Still it would be one very significant and easy justification less. :D
Well, we had our fun, now back to real world
AROUND 30 ISRAELI SOLDIERS TESTIFY ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES IN OPERATION CAST LEAD – A NEW BOOKLET BY "BREAKING THE SILENCE": "You feel like an infantile little kid with a magnifying glass looking at ants, burning them."
Fifty-four testimonies of Israeli combat soldiers who participated in Operation Cast Lead reveal gaps between the reports given by the army following January’s events; the needless destruction of houses; firing phosphorous in populated areas and an atmosphere that encouraged shooting anywhere.
Half a year after Operation Cast Lead, the organization "Breaking the Silence" is announcing the release of a new booklet today (Wed. 7/15) that includes numerous testimonies by soldiers who participated in the operation. The testimonies expose significant gaps between the official stances of the Israeli military and events on the ground.
Among the 54 testimonies are stories revealing the use of "accepted practices," the destruction of hundreds of houses and mosques for no military purpose, the firing of phosphorous gas in the direction of populated areas, the killing of innocent victims with small arms, the destruction of private property, and most of all, a permissive atmosphere in the command structure that enabled soldiers to act without moral restrictions. The booklet compiles the testimonies of about 30 reserve and regular combat soldiers from various units that participated in the fighting. The testimonies demonstrate that the soldiers were not given directives stating the goal of the operation and, as one soldier testifies, "there was not much said about the issue of innocent civilians."
Many soldiers said that they fought without seeing "the enemy before their eyes." "You feel like an infantile little kid with a magnifying glass looking at ants, burning them," one of the soldiers testified that "a 20-year-old kid should not have to do these kinds of things to other people."
"The testimonies prove that the immoral way the war was carried out was due to the systems in place and not the individual soldier," said Mikhael Mankin from "Breaking the Silence." What was proven yesterday is that through the IDF the exception becomes the norm, and this requires a deep and reflective discussion. This is an urgent call to Israel's society and leadership to take a sober look at the foolishness of our policies."
I love the byte about the human shields...
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
Yup, it's quite sad.
I made a thread about this topic in the pub, I'll copy my post here:
What a suprise, yet an other organisation concluded the clear and obvious facts of Israel break national and international law during it's latest campaigns: Using white phosphorus, a bit too trigger happy, destroying buildings without militairy justification and so on. And if Amnesty International, UN and the Red Cross (plus dozens of media reports ) aren't objective enough this report comes from an Israeli organisation (Breaking the silence). Using the testimonies of identified Israeli soldiers (though made anonymousin the report to protect them). It's pathetic that the Israeli spokeman event attempts to deny the accusations made to them. These soldiers are pride Israelis who are simply disgusted by what their miliairy/politicians are doing. I'd take their word quite seriously. That you deny claims from Hammas (such as their "aphrodisiac gum" story), fair enough as manyof those stories are either outright false or atleast heavily biased and exaggerated. Hammas tries just a hard job as to exaggerated things as that Isreal tries to downplay any issue that is brought up by whoever it is that brings a certain claim of whatever nature up. And yet the bullshit conitues for year after year, isn't it time to finally take action and slap Isreal on the wrist so to say? I won't even go into why illegally occupying land, creating and expanding settlements and checkpoints where civilians are abused at will as palytoys of soldiers is a bad thing and counterproductive and that be doing so any peace treaty will be doomed to fail. But if they "have" to take action (sure Israel can't just let Hammas endlessly attack them, as Hammas isn't a real nice organisation) then atleast do it fairly and according to international law. Lowering your standards to (some) of your enemies can never be justified and it only drivers the endless circle of violence and counter actions deeper and deeper, faster and faster. Isreal is doing a pretty piss poor job at being a modern and fair democracy, it's time something is done about it. Letting them know that enough is enough. PS: In other news today: The Palestinian Authority has closed down the West Bank offices of Arabic satellite news channel al-Jazeera. The self-rule body said al-Jazeera promoted a negative view of its work and that the coverage is biased. (source)