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Archimonde0_0

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#1 10 years ago

I just watched a short documentary that shifted the blame for WW2 from Nazi Germany to Soviet Russia.

They claimed that the true instigator of the war was Soviet Russia, because they allowed Nazi Germany, even under the Treaty of Versailles to develop new tanks and tactics out of the watchful eye of the western powers, effectively re-mechanizing Nazi Germany, and giving Hitler the assets to form his empire.

I thought it was a interesting opinion, while I still place blame on Hitlers insane rhetoric, I wondered what you guys thought of this opinion.




azreal

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#2 10 years ago

Honestly, I blame the French for #1, pissing Hitler off so much with the Treaty in the first place, and #2 allowing Hitler to take back some German (de-militarized) industrial lands in the West.

But 'tis an interesting thought nonetheless.




Spencer the Great

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#3 10 years ago

Although I don't place as much blame on the Soviets as this documentary seems to, I do think that their prewar actions were less than benevolent.

If Versailles pissed off the Germans just imagine what the Morgenthau plan would have done.




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#4 10 years ago

Well, there's a lot of work that's been done in the past few decades that's still very controversial with regards to Russia's role from 1938-1941.

I'm of the opinion that the USSR was bent on expansion as much as the Germans. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Bessarabia and Poland were to be just the beginning.

Now I don't know if I'd go as far as to say they were allowing the Germans to sneakily rearm in the 1930s so as to create a war, but I do think that they were planning the eventual invasion of Germany before June 1941. What time frame they planned to do this in is another debate and one that I can't comment on right now.

But, it's all still very controversial. As my professor last spring said, "It's only within the last 15 years or so that you can tell the truth about Stalin in academic circles."




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#5 10 years ago

What is the old platitude? "It takes two to tango."




JohnWalker

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#6 10 years ago

I always find it interesting that the focal point for the start of the war is always Sep. 1st 1939, and Japan's invasion of China prior to the bombing of Pearl Harbor doesn't count as world war.




Von Mudra

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#7 10 years ago

That's Euro-centric theory for you




McGibs

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#8 10 years ago

I'm currently reading the book "Flyboys" by James Bradley (flags of our fathers) and it's becoming increasingly clear that the 'good' guys are just as fucked in the head as the 'bad' guys. There was all kinds of wtf all the way across the board.

Personally, I blame that first monkey who picked up a rock and konked his neighbor on the noggin with it.




Lobo

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#9 10 years ago
'[WDWMegaraptor;4747844']I'm of the opinion that the USSR was bent on expansion as much as the Germans. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Bessarabia and Poland were to be just the beginning

And then the world But it had nothing to do with USSR, it was the worker class, honey

Now seriously, the "philosophic" start of WW2 was the spanish civil war, the western societies chose appeasement instead determined action against the fascism (but some idealistic individuals), and that's what happens when one comply with that scum.

And behind that appeasement in Spain it was the strong and often paranoid anti-communism of the governments of free world, so instead blame USSR about the original sin, the bubonic pest and our micro penises, maybe it was quite the oposite, am I right?.

Ready for some bashing of marxism as usual...make my day




JohnWalker

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#10 10 years ago

Marx had a stupid beard.