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#1 9 years ago

That didn't take long: MPs' expenses: cabinet meltdown as Jacqui Smith heads resignations - Telegraph

Video: Hazel Blears resigns from Cabinet in further blow for Gordon Brown - Times Online

Now, these papers are bastions of staid Conservatism. Still, all these signs point toward the PM getting the "Eject! Eject! Elect!" prompt pretty soon.




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#2 9 years ago

I dont have my facts 100% on this issue, but the best had to be the guy that bought property with their money, didnt pay the taxes and collected the profit...




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#3 9 years ago

Gordon Brown, bless his stubborn little heart, won't go unless he's pushed. He's a fighter to the very end. It would take a serious front bench revolt - I'm talking all major offices of state publicly condemning him - to get him to go. Jacqui Smith was jumping before she was pushed, as was Blears, although she tried to make it a 'statement' or some shit.

However, with the Euro elections tomorrow and Labour set to do worse than they've ever done before, a massive front bench revolt may well be on the cards. But he won't go over this - whether or not it's morally right that he should. He's just incredibly stubborn.

He was a barrel of laughs in Prime Minister's Questions today - Dave 'What's a policy?' Cameron refused to question him on policy and just repeatedly whined for a general election. Brown just kept standing up and saying 'ask a question about policy or offer one of your own - the Conservatives do not have any policies on the economy!'. Which is true. They actually don't. It's really quite embarassing, even I've come to accept that they're going to be the next government now and they literally have no policies on the economy other than 'stop spending as much money, we're going into debt, people can manage without jobs, heating allowance, benefits, tax relief, homeowners' allowance and buying assistance'. Their only defence for this disgusting 'shit on the little guy' approach is 'WE'RE IN RIDICULOUS DEBT' - you should have seen the opposition front benchers' faces when a Labour MP pointed out that according to EU figures, the UK has the lowest national debt in Europe and has had such for the last 10 years.

But I digress - Gordon is on his way out, yes, but it's touch and go over the next week whether it's before the election (next May at the latest) or after it. Many are calling for someone with a relatively clean reputation (not many of those left) to take the reigns for the last year - Alan Johnson is in the frame, as is David Milliband, though the latter has a serious chance of leading Labour from opposition into power so might not want to take the poisoned chalice of leading Labour through what will be their biggest defeat ever.




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#4 9 years ago

Meadow, forgive me that I am not up on British governing. But Im not sure what it is called, maybe the house of commons? Where they wear wigs in the small room and destroy each other with verbal molotovs??? That is spectacularly awesome and I wish we had something similar hear. I would like our politicians put in their place.




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#5 9 years ago

Oh, styles, we gotta get you to watch "PM Question Time" on the BBC Channel...which is where they do the witty (and not so witty sometimes) ripping and tearing. And that's the House of Commons, where they sit in suits and (mostly) their own hair. In fact the only place they wear wigs and robes in the regular course of proceedings is in the courts of law, and not necessarily all the time.

Alright, check my math, Meads. As far as a legislative body, the last to wear the wigs and robes was the House of Lords, membership in which used to be limited to the hereditary nobility. Sadly for the sake of tradition "the Lords" has been emasculated to the point it serves as little more than a ceremonial body...and it sits in business suits. Oh, for shame! I don't think the Lords have any real kind of power today, as the Commons hold virtually all the legislative cards. And membership in the Lords now is by appointment I think, and not because someone is the 14th Duke of Earl.

And the Queen is not far behind the Lords in terms of impotence and irrelevance. *sniff*




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#6 9 years ago

Jum's right, Stylie, no wigs in the commons - but plenty of tearing ;)

The Lords aren't completely impotent these days - any commons-approved bill has to be passed by them to become law. With 90 days detention they blocked it twice, and while commons prerogative does permit a bill to be 'forced through' a third time, the fact that they'd taken such a stand caused Blair and co to back down. Other examples exist of that happening but then again there's lots of examples of the 'forcing through' occurring too.

The Lords is moving through a period of reform at the moment though, apparently culminating in an entirely publicly-elected chamber. That should see them get a little more power than they currently have, what with a mandate and all.